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20 Comments on Jeff Guthrie, RE Experts & The Real Estate Advocate
I just found this BLOG on line from this address below...see the BLOG note this former employee wrote...I have just cut & pasted it from the site so it has several spelling errors. dated Sept 25, 2008
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-861-7912
866-861-7912
Did you get a call from 866-861-7912? Read the posts below to find out details about this number.
Gvorhies - 25 Sep 2008 For those of you who have joined this program, I am truly sorry. Like any program there will be afew success stories, but with this one there are very few. You see, I worked for this company for almost 8 months. Not being from a real estate or sales background I was very much in the dark as to how things worked. I believed what I was being told, and I implemented that on the phone. As time went on and the complaints started rollind in, I questioned the truth of what I was being told to say and to sell. I always got promises and time lines, but never any results. Now I my not have been the sharpest marble in the drawer, but this smelled like a skunk, looked like a skunk, and it all damn sure "STUNK"!!
I started telling every potential customers to stay away from this scam. I quit in late may of 2008. I wrote an email to the Colorado States Attorney General [as I had heard he was investigating this company] and offered to give him or his office and help they needed to put R.E. Advocate out of business. I now hear that 50 of the agents that signed up and have received nothing, are filing a class action lawsuit against Mr. Guthrie and his company. I have thought about the real estate agents that unknowingly scamed and I feel horrible. I thought we could provide what we were stating, and this program could really help in a poor market. I was scamed also, but once again to those agents that were looking for some help and took the bait, I am sorry!! Please try to find out who is leading the class action suit and join them. I will do the same and offer any help I can to see if I can help recover and lost monies.
Sincerly, Gary C. Vorhies
720-891-0347
this doesn't sound too good either...
J Phillip: it seems my original BLOG was getting too many mean, bad comments...
There's a new comment on the blog entry The Real Estate Advocate
Comment by Bob Stewart - ActiveRain:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
There are numerous slanderous comments being left here by too many anonymous people. We are removing this post. Please follow this link to respond: http://activerain.com/blogsview/595283/The-Real-Estate-Advocate
This is BOB below:
Areas of Expertise
Sorting out the differences that are bound to arise when you put over 100,000 Real Estate related professionals in one place.
I was quite surprised they completely removed the BLOG it all began with this BLOG I just did on Realtor.Com (see link below) ... and look what it has turned into...I did get a CALL from Leanne yesterday from the Real Estate Advocate, just before ActiveRain deleted my blog...she asked me to take the BLOG off that had all of the investors names, numbers, eMails, addresses...I told her I would ... Leanne & I visited for awhile... she said she HAD never wrote a BLOG on my BLOG on ActiveRain ... so if you were reading my original Blog and the comments on ActiveRain you could see many anonymous entries that were MEAN and appeared to be from disgruntled employees & Jeff Guthrie himself or atleaset someone who was trying to PORTRAY this ... it was QUITE and Active issue ... so then about ½ hour later I went in ActiveRain to remove what Leanne asked me to remove and IT was gone ... all of it... the WHOLE BLOG ... I am just glad I saved all of the eMails pertaining to the BLOG, in a file in my eMail filing cabinet ... so I still have most of the information... I did not save some of the MEAN comments... but the ones that had good information about this REexpert Issue... And as you can see from this Blog I did on Realtor.com on October 6th... this is my original BLOG I did do on ActiveRain... It just asked a innocent Question and I had only a few replys on it until September...and then WOW... there have been NO comments on this Realtor.com BLOG though... not quite as Active place as ActiveRain is...
Blog on Realtor.Com http://pattyluther.featuredblog.com/
I find it difficult to accept Mr. Guthrie's new business plan as sound. Going forward, if everyone was to pay the $2,000 and never have to pay any referral fees ever, how is this company going to sustain itself in the future? Again, another get rich quick scheme? How can we be assured he will not take the money and run!
Also, I find it odd that we have to send our checks to a UPS store mailbox and not the office!
BOY things are crazy on a few other Blogs about this...
Wow. What a mess. Over 1,000 brokers and agents?! That's a lot of money.
YOU WANT THE TRUTH! YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
Don,
Prior to sending you that email on your dammed blog, I asked you to edit my name so that I could remain anonymous. You did a real good job there buddy, you think anyone in this country doesn't know who 'T' is as it relates to REExpert? You should have been a brain surgeon!!
Also I noticed on your blog that you wanted to know what the former employees are doing. Why? You know that was Jeff's mess and it doesn't follow the people that used to work there. But no one has anything to hide so I'll tell you what I know.
Jeff and Patsy are in hiding. They have moved around town so much that I think they qualify for witness protection. They do keep in touch with Hunter Harris as he is their flunky. If you can get a hold of him, you can find the Guthrie's. Jeff was trying to get out of the country for awhile there. But he's still here in town.
Joe Lavelle-Who knows? He was a contract player at the company who was used as Jeff's whipping boy. Not liked or respected at all. Has the ugliest wife many have seen in recent memory.
Kirk - The person in charge of IVM development and company president for less than a month. He replaced Joe, and ultimately Joe replaced him.. Go figure. Never amounted to much. Too high strung and was just around for the paycheck. A zero contributor. The three months he spent on IVM was an exercise in futility and wasted income.
Grant - Supposedly the companies IT man. That was a joke as was his contribution. Outsourced all of his work to other companies and was replaced by Charles Johnson.
Sue Lawrence- Sue is still running the companies' operations. She is up to her neck in fighting all of your refund requests. As you may remember the merchant account is in her name and destroying her, and her husbands' credit. ...BTW it is she that is STILL processing your credit cards monthly for operational funds..I.e. paying Jeff's expenses.
John Souza- Never an employee of the company. Remember all of those telemarketers that couldn't speak English? Yeah, Souza brought them into the equation. Little man with a Napoleon complex. I believe Charles bitch-slapped him once.
Leanne Hodgson & Tom Trujillo- Have kept pretty much a low profile. Leanne is back into Real Estate and is rumored to have closed a very large deal for which she plans to either resurrect REexpert or a company like it. Information is sketchy but whatever she's doing you can bet it involves a ton of eating.
TStallings, Adrian- Don't know what Stallings is doing; you can bet he's selling. Adrian is selling Kirby vacuum cleaners.
David (something died inside my mouth) Yost- Worse breath on the planet. Another one of Jeff's punching bags. Yost is selling counseling for businesses. Should have sold some to Guthrie.
Ed Spitzlberger- another pathetic little man who's scheming backfired on him. Hired as a sales rep, manipulated himself to the rank of sales manager. Sales manager for three months. No sales. Actually pulled all of the sales reps from the office in a coup attempt. Ultimately left the office disgraced and shunned.
Tony Pugh - Was the driving force behind the ‘social network'. Probably would have worked but Jeff's plan and Tony's didn't match. Ultimately Tony was weaned from the company when the income he derived was weaned from him.
Charles Johnson- He's running his GTI Company. Technology services. People gave the man a bad rap about him shutting the company down. Was never true. Jeff tried to cheat the man and was caught. REexpert was doomed months before Charles ever hit the scene. Worked there for a month and was never paid.
Tara Dikos- is working for a technology company as a sales rep. Doing a fine job too!
Matt Rodgers- Don't know. Funny, I didn't know what he did when he was employed at the company either.
Debbie Harris- Still in Real Estate. Jeff paid her simply for her managing broker license designation. She sat around all day for months doing nothing really, but cashing payroll checks. $8000.00 monthly for doing nothing. Good work if you can get it.
The company is dead. There is nothing now but the aftermath. With Jeff on the run I fear yall will never see a dime of that money returned to you. I think that all of that posturing he was doing with the emails and all was just to give him time to bail.
TD Helios-
Who is Don? Did you just cut and paste that response from another posting?
Yes I did. I refer to Don Leske.
AN EXPLANATION
Mr. Faranda. Ms Helios letter is in response to one that I wrote yesterday. I include it here for those of you still interested in REexpert LLC
"Here is is almost February. We've elected a new president and the economy has taken the turn for the worse we've feared the most. The real state of the economy and this down turn is what fueled the Reexpert phenominon.
As a former employee( we are all former employees now) I was always amazed at how greedy all of you Realtors and unaffiliated agents and brokers were. You literally jumped over rhyme and reason to get the competitive edge from one another. Jeff Guthrie did indeed feed you a line of crap, but he didn't force feed it to you. You stood in line to get the dose. Fighting and sniping at each other the whole time while he 'slipped it to you'.
Don't take too much credit Mr. Leske. Yes you came to Denver, was Paraded around the offices and told all the things you wanted to hear. They threw our COO at you who was on the job all of two weeks at the time. They distracted you with the physical charms of our office staff and prevented you from getting a real good look, and you went home a happy boy, singing the praises of the company. It wasn't until after you got home and the ether of the experience didn't wear off until a MONTH later that you came to your senses. ..Hell, you could have stayed home for all the good YOU did.
You didn't even make him pay for stealing your money. You let him simply walk away after all of the warnings we put out there. Now, with the economy crashed, bet you guys wish you had that money. It's still around... it just 'trickled down' to Guthrie's pockets.
Thieves and con men will always be around. In fact, I've seen a few more pop up in the image of the former RE experts. You want to know the funny thing about that? YOU BOUGHT THAT CRAP TOO! Yes, you did and it was even worse than the original. I think that list of all of you Reexperts is being sold and resold all over the country.
It contains by far the most gullible, stupid, unconscious, unrepentant buyers on all the planet. Shame on Jeff Guthrie for being the Con man he is. Shame on you for being that stupid. I mean really. Come on people! If it wasn't Jeff, it would have been someone else stealing from you. It least in this case you know his name.
In the future, whenever I need to sell anything, I'll go to the list of people that are the easiest to make a living off of. Real Estate Brokers and agents. You can't blame Jeff for that one.
It's the truth. It's the truth that you all run from and avoid this whole history of the Real Estate Advocate. It is the strangest and most indelible mark of corporate greed and stupidity that stands to your true nature that exists.
It's ugly. I'd run from it too. Shame on YOU."
I think it is a little silly to accuse the people that Jeff Guthrie bamboozled of being greedy. We are in business. We have families to feed. We took a risk that the guy was legit to forward our businesses. He turned out to be a fraud to surrounded himself with not very good people from the sound of things. I'm out some money. I'd rather lose some money than my reputation.
J. Phillip,
Please have as many REexperts as you know come to my Facebook site. I'm not a bad person just surrounded myself with some incompetent people. I have a plan to make everyone whole. I just need a venue where I can talk to everyone at the same time without all of the distractions of personal interests.
We got into this together, we'll get out together as well:
Jeff.
Not interested. Seriously.
I'm not sure about the rest of these folks, but I, as well as several other web designers, flash guys, etc, were contracted by Charles Johnson to create flash presentations, which we did, and never got compensated.
Mr. Faranda,
First, I apologize for having to come to your board and post what I am about to post.
TD Helios, you are a coward, a liar, and a fraud. You are worse then Jeff Guthrie, you hide behind a fake name that only you and a few other know, yet still claim to know it all. Jeff at least believes he did nothing wrong, you know your wrong. You, little boy, know nothing. You knew nothing of the dedication of certain employees and you knew nothing of the company and those in the company who were trying to do the right thing for the Realtors involved. You insult others, Leanne Hodgson, David Yost, Matt Rodgers and others with no regard for who they really are and what they tried to do for the Realtors. You praise some that came into the company seeing it as a cash cow. You, like Jeff, are hated by many people, both inside the company and outside. Yes, we know who you are. It doesnt take much to find information on who posted to these blogs if you know the right people, and know how to trace an IP address to its source. Here is what you DON'T know TD.
Jeff and Patsy are in hiding. They have moved around town so much that I think they qualify for witness protection. They do keep in touch with Hunter Harris as he is their flunky. If you can get a hold of him, you can find the Guthrie's. Jeff was trying to get out of the country for awhile there. But he's still here in town.
Wrong, Jeff and Patsy never left the country. After they were forced to leave the rental they were living in they moved into a house owned by the new owners of the video magazine
Joe Lavelle-Who knows? He was a contract player at the company who was used as Jeff's whipping boy. Not liked or respected at all. Has the ugliest wife many have seen in recent memory.
Partly true, no one liked, or respected Joe, but then Joe didnt like anyone either. I wouldn't mention ugly without looking at your wife and mistress first.
Kirk - The person in charge of IVM development and company president for less than a month. He replaced Joe, and ultimately Joe replaced him.. Go figure. Never amounted to much. Too high strung and was just around for the paycheck. A zero contributor. The three months he spent on IVM was an exercise in futility and wasted income.
Wrong again, Kirk brought several ideas that were shot down by Jeff, and Joe.
Grant - Supposedly the companies IT man. That was a joke as was his contribution. Outsourced all of his work to other companies and was replaced by Charles Johnson.
Wrong again big guy, Charles didnt replace him, he left because of Charles.
Sue Lawrence- Sue is still running the companies' operations. She is up to her neck in fighting all of your refund requests. As you may remember the merchant account is in her name and destroying her, and her husbands' credit. ...BTW it is she that is STILL processing your credit cards monthly for operational funds..I.e. paying Jeff's expenses.
You did get this one right, even monkeys get lucky now and then.
John Souza- Never an employee of the company. Remember all of those telemarketers that couldn't speak English? Yeah, Souza brought them into the equation. Little man with a Napoleon complex. I believe Charles bitch-slapped him once.
Wrong, Charles did not slap John. Charles hid behind a locked door and told all the employees that if John showed up to call the police. He was very afraid. True he did have the call center out of the country.
Leanne Hodgson & Tom Trujillo- Have kept pretty much a low profile. Leanne is back into Real Estate and is rumored to have closed a very large deal for which she plans to either resurrect REexpert or a company like it. Information is sketchy but whatever she's doing you can bet it involves a ton of eating.
Wrong, tell your source she got this one wrong too. Leanne and Tom are not keeping a low profile, they have something you never will, friends. As for eating a ton, she can lose weight, you cant lose stupid or ignorance. You did get one thing right, she is back in real estate, she does know that working with Jeff has damaged her reputation, but those she has talked to (ex reexperts) dont blame her for Jeff's mistakes.
TStallings, Adrian- Don't know what Stallings is doing; you can bet he's selling. Adrian is selling Kirby vacuum cleaners.
Partly right, but then who cares, both were in it for the money. Tim got his $130,000.00
David (something died inside my mouth) Yost- Worse breath on the planet. Another one of Jeff's punching bags. Yost is selling counseling for businesses. Should have sold some to Guthrie.
I wouldnt mention anyones breath until you sit next to your wife.
Ed Spitzlberger- another pathetic little man who's scheming backfired on him. Hired as a sales rep, manipulated himself to the rank of sales manager. Sales manager for three months. No sales. Actually pulled all of the sales reps from the office in a coup attempt. Ultimately left the office disgraced and shunned.
This is funny, Ed hired you.
Tony Pugh - Was the driving force behind the ‘social network'. Probably would have worked but Jeff's plan and Tony's didn't match. Ultimately Tony was weaned from the company when the income he derived was weaned from him.
Wrong again, Jeff owes Tony also
Charles Johnson- He's running his GTI Company. Technology services. People gave the man a bad rap about him shutting the company down. Was never true. Jeff tried to cheat the man and was caught. REexpert was doomed months before Charles ever hit the scene. Worked there for a month and was never paid.
Another wrong answer, Charles tried to take over the company, when he seen he couldnt he ran away only to come back with a fake badge and a fake story, we all had a good laugh about that one.
Tara Dikos- is working for a technology company as a sales rep. Doing a fine job too!
Another right one, your doing great, not really but...
Matt Rodgers- Don't know. Funny, I didn't know what he did when he was employed at the company either.
Wrong, you blew this one again. Matt was one of the key figures in getting the back end system together despite Jeff and his constant changes
Debbie Harris- Still in Real Estate. Jeff paid her simply for her managing broker license designation. She sat around all day for months doing nothing really, but cashing payroll checks. $8000.00 monthly for doing nothing. Good work if you can get it.
Wrong, Debbie didnt sit around all day, she was working with Tara in customer support til she had enough and walked out on Jeff.
There are many employees that TD didnt mention in HIS post. Someare back working for Jeff and the "new video magazine" and some can't stand to hear the name Jeff Guthrie. It doesnt matter where they are or who they are.
Lots of people have been f**ked by Charles Johnson of GTI Support. Here are a few...
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/457/RipOff0457704.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/456/RipOff0456560.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/453/RipOff0453778.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/441/RipOff0441020.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/451/RipOff0451295.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/465/RipOff0465591.htm
There have been many more posted on Denver Craigs List.
Hello,
I am trying to gather supporting documentation for a (hopefully) criminal case against Mr. Charles Adam Johnson of GTISupport, GTISupport.com, Global Technology Inc of Aurora, Colorado.
We need to put a stop to this guy, I would love to hear Greg's side of the story, and if it's true that Charles Johnson stole his server, did you file a police report?
I have been in touch with numerous victims of Mr. Johnson, and am myself owed thousands of dollars by him.
It's not about the money anymore though, it's about stopping a criminal. Please contact gtisupportvictim at gmail if you want to help stop him, and maybe even get your money back.
Customer's and former 'employees' of GTI Support, TheREPro, The RealEstatePro, People that have had contact with him, his wife, Tim Stallings or anyone else associated with him are encouraged to tell their story (good or bad).
Thank you!
BTW - He's now posting on job boards under 'Global Technology, Inc' to disguise himself from anyone who does google search.
Any new developments on getting a refund from REexpert?
Trying to get a refund from REExpert, The Real Estate Advocate, or Jeff Guthrie is like trying to get blood from a turnip, (excuse the pun). Several people have contacted the Colorado AG to no avail. It seems Jeff will most likely get away with defrauding alot of people. I cant blame just Jeff Guthrie for the lose of my $4,000.00. His management staff knew what was going on. They did nothing then, and they are doing nothing now, to help us with our claims to the Colorado AG.
I spent a lot of time reading the post and many of the comments. This is definitely one of the those shaking the hornets nest situations, a lot of people with lots of emotions and opinions.