I know some of you are going to be offended, but I'm really starting to get angry with some of these self righteous MMA posters.  A post that I wrote more then a year ago is still getting anonymous posts from angry MMA acolytes who dislike the fact I call into question the efficacy of their program.

When the program began, they whole trick was to show home owners how to use their equity in a unique way to leverage down their debt in an eye popping short period of time.  They made it sound easy...just get a HELOC (equity line), and our wonderful computer will tell show you the way to debt free living!!

HAH!!!  just pay your $3500 and it can be all yours Mr. Homeowner.  But not more then a year later they are getting a letter from Wells Fargo or Countrywide.  Mr. Homeowner, we are now calling your Equity line due, and you may no longer use the available credit in this line of credit, we regret this inconvenience but according to the terms of the contract you signed, we can now increase your rate and require that you treat it as a second mortgage.

So what do they do next, they tell you to use credit cards to leverage down the debt!!  Hello, pass the TUMS because I'm really getting agitated.  Let's now go from 9-11% HELOC's to 19-28% credit cards!  Oh boy, this just get's better and better my friend (had to throw in the McCain reference).

Now the math suggests that this program works.  I'm not going to argue that because I've looked at the program closely.  Math doesn't lie, and computers are fairly accurate.  They don't have an agenda to push, or they are not worried about how much money they are making selling their theories.  The problem is that a computer isn't paying the mortgage each month.

Yep everyone, life does happen to all of us. We're flesh and blood, we're emotional and we can make some real bad choices from time to time.  Very few are disciplined enough to stay to the task at hand, and this program then becomes a dagger in the heart if you don't follow it religiously.  Perhaps this is why it's almost become a religion with some of it's strongest adherents.

One ther reality folks, one that I'm seeing more and more as times get rougher.  Many of these programs require the borrower to payoff the mortgage over 5 to 8 years.  The problem is we're actually in year's 2 and 3 for most of the early followers of this program.  The sad reality is that real estate values have plunged, and some of these people have actually realized very little in terms of paid down equity.  The scary thing is many of them still carry mortgages that are several years of being paid off.  They could easily lose their job's in the coming months due to businesses getting creamed in the upcoming recession.  Main street has yet to feel the full effect of Wall Street's troubles.  Don't kid yourself it's coming with a vengeance!  So he who holds even a small mortgage, with no income, and a HELOC that has been shut off by the bank is in big trouble.

That's why I ALWAYS suggest my clients put away 6 months income!  I suggest they payoff their credit cards, not mark them up in some mortgage merge scheme.  If they are still "heck" bent on paying off the mortgage, then great...MAKE DOUBLE PAYMENTS!  Look, if you really want to be truly debt free, then I'd save my money and buy one of Dave Ramsey's books.  That guy knows how to get out of debt, and it doesn't take some fancy $3500 dollar computer program. It just takes common sense people!

Lest I forget, please read my friends blog, this is much more effective describing the reasons not to get an MMA.

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Great post. There are several tried and proven ways to pay off a mortgage early and you hit on them. The great thing is that if there is an emergency, you can go back to making just the original payment.

The tricky stuff is just that...tricky. And if there is a personal disaster...it is a big disaster.

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Karl:  It is very easy to suggest that people "put away" at least six months of expenses in an emergency fund.  Easy to say... but most of the folks I know... have very little if an "extra" each month... and many of them are simply living paycheck to paycheck.

When the HELOC's were implemented... they were supposed to be loans that were secured by the equity in the homes of the borrowers.  The banks had to withdraw the HELOCs because there wasn't any more equity in the homes of the borrowers... which means they went from secured loans to unsecured loans.  Big problem.

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Karl,

It reminded me of when I refi'd my house in 2005 using a weird loan. The mortgage broker told me to just refi after 3 years... very misleading people out there. so misleading that even people in the business can fall for this stuff.

5:14am • #3

Karl,

How right you are about MMAs. Sounds and looks so good on paper. all the "algorithms" do is make you a bit more cognizant of your debt. If you really want to pay down, as you said, double pay your mortgage. Dave Ramsey is the best national speaker on this. If you have to eat beans and rice to get the credit cards paid down, do so. You and he are the voice of reason in such topsy turvy times. Americans have been on a spending spree without even thinking about it. Each generation has it's lessons to learn and we are doing that right now. Time to wake up and start saving not spending. I'd like to pass that info to the House and Senate as well. They hold the check book not the Prez and they are the ones that have also been on a spending spree.

Karl
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There ar eno gimmicks.  if you weant to pay down your mortgages, or any debt, just do it.  You don;t need MMA's or bi-weekly or another else. 

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Karl,

Thanks for the "link love".  What I am seeing in these troubled times is more and more of these types of programs causing more harm than good.  Anyone whom carries a mortgage still, especially those following these programs to a "T" could quite easily be facing foreclosure because of these programs. 

The reason they work is not so much math, rather the use of discretionary income to pay off the mortgage more effficiently via a HELOC.  There are several big problems that people need to be aware of:

1) You don't need the software to make this startegy work, wo shy waste the money?

2) To pay off the loans in the "5-7 years" time frame they tought, you must use ALL of your discretionary income!!!!  That means no money left over to survive a job loss or other financial crisis if you haven't got it already.  My post, Money Merge Accounts: A Good Way to Accelerate Your Mortgage Into Foreclosure?, which you linked to above, hits on just some of the problems.

3) You can do better than the program using other strategies.

4) These "salesmen" of the MMA in particular generally lack knowledge and the full understanding of how money works.  Most are desperate for business in these hard times, as is evident thoughout the industry including MMG, Loan Toolbox and the Duncan Group merger.  They are resorting to various tactics to get the sale, so watch out.

Of course, I could go on, as you well know.  I hope those reading this post and your others on the subject can learn and avoid the pitfalls created by these types of programs.  In today's economic and financial turmoil, solid mortgage planners, like yourself are what is needed to stay the course to one's financial freedom.

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