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18 Comments on That foreclosure is a bargain ... but will your bank finance it?
Excellent Paul...for the buyer that is well represented, they will be prepared for the challenges. Easier said than done though these days. Yesterday, a lender asked my buyer to prove that her fiancee's parents are married.
I thought I was getting punked. It's getting weirder by the day.
Amada - Crazy times all the way around. I hate the blog button change, too.
Buying these properties can be stressful for investors who know the hoops that they will have to jump through. For first-time homebuyers it is downright intimidating. FHA 203K loans are available, but just the mere mention sends the asset manager's scurrying even deeper into the abyss. (Maybe that's where AR hid the blog button.)
One would think that banks would have more business sense, but one would be wrong. Oh, to have a George Bailey and his eye for a good, solid investment to build pride in individual homeownership. It's too bad that his character is pure fiction.
It's funny that you wrote this tonight, since I had a conversation with some buyers this afternoon on this very topic. Well done, my friend. I am flagging this one.
Each deal is also different, and each lender will view it differently. Very good post!
Paul. We're selling a lot of foreclosures and getting some good buys for our buyers. Most are in good condition with only minor cosmetic needs. However, some are in various stages of disrepair and need renovating.
I'll post some photos later today of one in a 203(k) contract now. We have a very happy buyer.
We are running into this problem here too Paul. It is hard to tell someone who is willing to do the work that they can't get the house due to inability to find affordable financing. Good post.
Lenn, I am looking forward to those photographs. You know how I feel about my eye candy!
Paddy, w're having the same problem down here as well.
Paul, this is an awesome post. I'm going to re-blog it for my readers. Enjoy your day, sweetie!
A banker concerned about a leaky faucet...HMMM It is easy to see why banks are so F'd-Up. You wonder how the people running the show have ever got this far in life???
Amazing isn't it? I had two bank owned listings and both buyers paid cash - guess that is how they are getting around it. The thing that blew my mind though is that both waived their termite and inspection? Sure the bank probably will not fix it but don't you at least want to know what you are getting yourself into????
Erik - That's when you finally get a response from the asset manager, of course. I find some alright to deal with, but too many have no idea what they are doing.
Elaine - The banks have other end games besides simply moving properties one at a time. Some are nonresponsive to the point that they must either be waiting to offload them in bundles to investors or for a handout from Uncle Sam.
Jason - Cash is king with such properties. The sooner we can clear up some of the mystery about bank owned properties, the better.
Jim - How true that is.
Lenn - There are some nearly turnkey foreclosures out here as well. Many of the problems that will cause issues with buyer financing have come about as a result of theft, not general property malaise. Theft of copper, appliances, etc is rampant among vacant properties right now.
Paddy - It can be difficult. Many buyers do not understand why they can't get financing on a property that is 200k under market. I'm hoping that this post reaches some buyer eyes early in the process so they don't waste their time with the homes that will never close escrow.
Carolyn - Re-blog away! Thanks.
Bill - If it's not the leak, it's the possibility of mold. If it's not the possibility of mold, it's the possibility of being located on an ancient Mayan burial site. Yes, I know the Mayans lived in Peru, but these are bankers we are talking about.
Cristal - You nailed it: cash or private financing. That is one reason that these properties can be such amazing values. The buyer pool is shrunken due not only to buyer objection to condition, but the lender as well. As such, it puts even more downward pressure on the price.
I have an REO closing next week that is still in final underwriting processing due to this same issue. With the idiocy of lenders these days there are going to be many opportunities for those with cash.
Melina - They are afraid of their own shadow right now. Foreclosures constitute the lion's share of the market that is actually moving right now, so it tends to further strain prices. With financing tough to come by on non-pristine properties, it will dilute the buyer pool even as demand remains level or increases. Crazy times.
Jason - Forgot to mention, I doubt you'll be seeing any features coming my way anytime soon, but thanks for the sentiment ;)
It's so frustrating when you have a qualified buyer and then the lender has issues with the house. I have a cousin who was trying to get a FHA 203K, but finally gave up and is just getting a construction loan and then doing a re-fi after repairs are made. Is costing a little more, but seemed worth it in the end.
SUch a good point Paul
If the prices are falling and we still have to fight to get a deal done, we aint at bottom yet....the system will let us know.....Do you remember what normal is?? I yearn for normal again...just normal
Ahhh, yes. Normal. I think we're a long way from seeing normal again....
I'm working a deal right now - I have the buyer. Turns out , while it was not made clear in the beginning, this is going to be a short sale. Seller, knowing he owed a couple back payments and fees, listing the house at a break even price. But did not factor in the back payments and fees. He believes he can call the lender, and whoever is on the other end of the phone will be able to make the decision to forgive the lapses, and move forward without it being a short sale..... I say "good luck".
Like pulling teeth these days. Nothing is what it seems to be!
Debi
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