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Bank owned properties can be a great deal and bargain for your client but keep in mind that the best thing you can do for your client is getting them a credit for a lot of their closing costs. And you ask WHY? Pay close attention to those 17 page counter offers from the bank.

  • Buyer Credit for Bank Owned PropertiesThe Bank (Seller) most likely will not pay for any repairs.
  • The Bank most likely will not pay for association or condo association docs (And VA loans NEED certain documents so your client will end up paying for the documents)
  • The Bank most likely will not pay for the Termite Inspection (And some lenders require a report)
  • The Bank most likely will not pay for a survey (And some lenders require a report)
  • The Bank most likely do not have all the keys for the home/unit (And your client will most likely pay for the mailbox key, pool key etc.)
  • The Bank most likely will only pay "up to" a certain amount for commission to the Realtor® representing the Buyer.
  • The Bank most likely will charge $100 per day for every day past the closing date deadline (after they have countered your closing date with a date two weeks earlier)

Also, you really want to make sure that the home/unit is in pretty good shape so that your client will not be making up that difference in 'great price' with a bunch of repairs as well. Make sure you get a Professional Home Inspection so you will have a detailed report on any items that you may need to remedy or repair.

So asking for a decent amount of credit to apply towards the buyers closing costs can be beneficial when it comes to:

  • Closed DealPaying for those Association Documents (that can run up to $700 for both Association and Condominium Association Documents.) Remember, on a VA loan the lender needs the Budget, Minutes, RR105C and the Insurance Summary)
  • Paying for the Termite Inspection  because you really want to be sure you aren't facing a colony of ground termites
  • Paying for those keys/garagae door openers  and any other items associated with the home or recreation areas.
  • Paying for the survey  Especially in an older neighborhood where neighbors John and Bob agreed to just putting up a wall not knowing where the boundary lines were.
  • Paying for a home warranty for things that may crop up later. And THAT is a good idea as it may save loads on any issues arising later on. You pay just a service fee for electrical, plumbing, appliances etc. If it breaks they may just replace the whole unit.

How did I learn all this?

I closed my first bank owned property transaction yesterday.

There are just some things we do (or pay for) to make it happen for our clients.

And they acquire that golden egg!

 

 

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Celeste "Sally" Cheeseman  is a Realtor-Associate® and Certified Residential Specialist (CRS) with Century 21 Liberty Homes in Mililani, Hawaii. With a sharp understanding that a listening ear is the key to a client's needs  she serves the island of Oahu (Honolulu County) and all Hawaii Military Relocations, Hawaii Retirees, Hawaii Job Transfers and Hawaii Residents, Home Buyers and Sellers.

  

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49 Comments on Acquiring The Golden Egg

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2008
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Sally- first let me say Congratulations on the closing :)  I love the points you made and hey you're lucky you only had 17 pages, I had 23 and the whole thing could have been consolidated down to "you have no rights" sign here :)

I am currently negotiating a sale and will have to pay some of the VA costs in order to make it work. And exactly what you said in this Post is what I told my clients.

12:11am • #1
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Sally, the banks do call all the shots on their properties. Here in CA they even demand we use their choice of title company, generally from out of area, that charges higher escrow and closing fees than is standard in our area.

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Vickie: Well, we used the one the agent wanted us to use here...the bank used theirs on the mainland... and yes...the closing fees, title insurance were outrageous!

12:18am • #3
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Kathy: I forgot to mention that there were 8 additional pages of addendums from the brokerage co. here. Plus our standard 12 page contract...Plus the two addendums I added in for VA and coop.

Yup....and that's okay...I bought the condo docs and home warranty.....and that's just because my clients are wonderful people :)

12:21am • #4
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Now that sounds more like it.  More paperwork, no repairs, and Agents putting in some of their money to make it work for the clients.  Yep, now that sounds like a foreclosure Sale LOL....and glad I don't do short sales or foreclosures :)

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There are a lot of extra docs with the bank owneds.  You make several good points on the potential negatives of the deal.

12:33am • #6
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Bank owned properties can be a good deal.  They are a royal pain in the neck for sure.

12:47am • #7
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Kathy: Lots of paperwork in itty bitty words (I think it was a 3 instead of 12 font size so when it's faxed it looks all blurred together)

Christine: Plenty docs. Thanks.

Randy: Yeah....especially this one....beautiful and only four years old. Can't beat that.

1:03am • #9
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Congratulations on closing your foreclosure. They do have a bunch more docs than "traditional" sales.

3:42am • #10
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Thanks Sally ~ I have yet to close on a bank owned home - I know where to look back to when I do! (Awwww - educated once again)

4:03am • #11
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Most banks here aren't cooperative but you would think they would be so they can get rid of all the inventory they claim to want to sell...they might as well just hold them for long periods if they aren't willing to work with people who really want to live in the property.

6:40am • #12
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I had a bank try and charge $100 a day and they signed the contract the day before the closing date. We made them sign an addendum changing the closing date.

6:44am • #13
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Sally I tell my folks there is no free lunch.  Especially with bank owned properties.  You may get a great deal initially but you'll pay for the repairs most likely.  That being said they need to watch their labor costs when doing the repairs in order to come out ahead.

6:46am • #14
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Hi Sally - Nothing better than a 1st hand experience to guide you! Hopefully you got a great deal and you don't need to worry about it:)

7:02am • #15

Most bank-owned properties here need a lot of repairs...buyers need to know that sometimes they can't buy one of these with a regular straight-up mortgage.  You also need to pay attention to who's going to pay for the title insurance - here, most sellers do, but some banks will not.

Although every bank is different, requiring you and your buyer to pay very close attention to every line in the addendum, one thing is the same...they seek to shift all risks to the buyer.

I've done many of these - bank-owned, Fannie Mae, HUD, VA...all different, yet similar at the same time.

7:10am • #16
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Morning Sally,

Glad you finally closed the sale. Sorry you had to make a personal financial contribution to make it happen.

I will never understand the Banking Industry and their attitude toward the public. Here you and I are working hard to help them get out from under a dire situation and they beat us to the bone. Manipulate us and the buyer in every was possible then charge additional fee after fee.

We finally gave up and no longer handle short sales or foreclosures. Not that we had/have that many in our area, but they just aren't worth the effort. There are a number of homes on the market here that are prices very well and fit the needs of our buyers. No bank hassling to contend with and speedy closings.

7:21am • #17
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Hi Sally,

Good info. I liked Kathy's comment about "no rights". You know the funny part about it, just when you think you have it figured out, it changes. We got different lenders that do different things. Every now and then, (yet rarely) you find an asset manager who is really top of things. Of course they probably say the same thing about us, lol.

7:51am • #18
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Good info Sally.  I am always cautious on bank owned properties but I have had some success.  Hope to have more but the buyers do need to be aware of potential problems.

 

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Sally - great information, there is so much to keep in mind when working with bank owned properties not to mention the paperwork.

8:31am • #20
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Sally - congratulations on your transaction. I completed an REO just a few months ago. I like Kathy's comment above. I might add "and we (the bank) have no liability for anything, ever."

Jeff

8:42am • #21
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Woo-Hoo: Good job on breaking down the things the BANK WILL and will NOT do on their foreclosures--and your closing. 

My opinion of many REPO's is: They are not ALWAYS a great deal, so you really need to have inspections and pay close attention to the inspectors report/warnings.

 

9:19am • #22
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Hi Sally,
Telling it like it is---seems some agents do not want to do this and the Buyer gets lots of surprises and they are not good ones.

9:33am • #23
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Here in greater Phoenix AZ banks are doing nothing except handing you the deed to your new (well not so new) home. The transactions are smooth. However, repairs , incentives, etc... are coming out of your own pocket

9:49am • #24
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Hi Sally - I do not have any experience with these and I really appreciate this information.

Have a great weekend!

10:05am • #25
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Carolin: They sure do....that's okay...this one turned out to be a gem. 4 years old...beautiful condition..well kept....great price :)

Christina: Nothing like learning :)

 

11:31am • #26
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Neal: You would think....but they want to make as much as they can off of it.....but failing to think that the longer it's on the market the more they're losing out anyway.

12:58pm • #27

I, too, am sorry you had to make a personal financial contribution to make the deal happen. The bank should should have paid those expenses, and if they failed to do so, then the buyer should pony up the cost. It's part of purchasing a bank owned property. However nice the buyers are, we still have a business to run!

1:14pm • #28
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Sounds like all the fun in the world. Glad you made it through it. Congratualtions and good advice for others.

1:43pm • #29
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Richard: Now that was going a little too far.

Nanette: I know now that it will definitely be no free lunch along the way. My folks got lucky with a really clean and maintained home.

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C Sally C, awesome post. Thank you for sharing this information. Enjoy your evening. Regards, C.

4:45pm • #31
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Sally - We're fortunate once in a while for the addendums from the bank to be attached to the listing in our MLS.  It at least give me and my buyers a chance to look them over before they make a final decision on whether to proceed with an offer.  They can be a burdensome and frustrating but in the end I'm happy when my clients are happy!

7:26pm • #33
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Sally, I'm surprised at how little the banks get involved--and somehow not surprised at how much you DO!  Congratulations for the wonderful work for your clients and for your sale.

8:24pm • #34
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Sally like you said Bank owned properties can be a great buy, but they can also have a lot of pit falls.  That it is important to have a Realtor that will stay on top of everything ever step of the way.

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Woo Hoo, You learned good! I recall when we had a conversation not too unlike this some time ago and here in San Diego at least there are a lot of homes being purchased as REO that have not been cared for very well. You serve your clients well! Some of the ones here are sitting a very long time and that would speak to their real condition. Great Post!

10:48pm • #36
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18
2008
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Bill: It was....closed on Wednesday and they are happy. Not much that they would not take care of that was needed so it wasn't a too big of a deal.

Suzanne: We don't have too many and the short sale laws just may change drastically here...to cut out the Realtor® so don't know if I'll have to deal with many in my lifetime. :)

1:01am • #37
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Hal: I'm not sorry at all...the way I met these clients...and how everything transpired...it just turned out very well.  We actually had a 45 day closing and everything turned out pretty good. Sometimes I give a little and get back a lot.....this time it's a very rewarding feeling....to have appreciative clients who love their home!

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Lynda: I know one thing...the LO and I worked very well together through this one....the clients were on top of everything we asked of them..they got in immediately. In the end it all worked out fine. I'm glad. Not often we have a good one that is pretty stress free.

 

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Paddy: And so the importance of having a professional home inspection and checking out docs to the tee. :)

Jennifer: No kidding...but in the end it really can be a great deal and home for the client :)

Jeff: I really do think that was in that 17 page counter when they kept saying...no we will not do a termite inspection...no we will not do any repairs...no we will not have any kind of extension...no we will not do this or that :)

1:11am • #40
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Kat: Yup...good thing this was a well maintained home....built in 2004 and inspector said only a couple of minor things need maintenance etc.

Cynthia: Well, it's a good thing this one didn't need much of anything anyway. They had an inspection done in July...which fell out of escrow....and so we were able to use that one.....no survey needed....association with developer walls/fences and hey....I gave a little to get docs in to lender....and  home warranty for the buyer....just in case :)

1:14am • #41
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James: I am thinking that is a standard thing.....for a good price....hey...not much is going to come out the banks pocket for a foreclosure.... I really doubt I would have advised my buyer to take a 1959 home with many repairs to be had. :)

Ann: Hey...my first and I do believe I would just stick with these rather than a short sale in bad condition. :)

1:17am • #42
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Kelly:  I don't think like that....especially when I got a $$$ buyers agent bonus $$$ and it was extra so no biggie. I have been known to pay or work for my clients anyway. It comes back ...believe me....in the form of appreciation. It is more than just a business for me....and that's why referrals come back to me as well.

I have a client who is disabled and I helped him clean his home last weekend for Open House the next. His home was pretty neat and clean anyway...but there were some things he could not do. A little kindness and caring goes a long way for me. :)

 

1:21am • #43
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Thanks Fred...and these clients will be long time friends. :)

CTS:  Thanks and thanks!

Donna; That would have been nice .... to see it up front too.

Carole: I would presume...just like you do!

 

1:22am • #44
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George: Good thing we have professionals in this industry huh? :)

William: I do believe everyone was in a great position to get this one closed.

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After doing several foreclosure contracts and reading the addendums from several different banks it is a wonder that anyone ever signs the darn things.  The buyer is truly giving away all their rights.  One important thing to remember is that the addendums supercede the contract.  In other words whatever you asked for in the contract you need to ask for again on the addendum, because it has all gone away and been superceded by the addendum.

6:20am • #46
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Pam: The buyer doesn't give away all their rights when it's a VA loan. We HAVE to still have association docs for the lender...we still have to have a termite inspection for the lender ...and they also paid for much of buyers closing costs in this case. What do you do for your buyer in these cases?

12:22pm • #47
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Sally,

Normally all dealings with a foreclosing bank are handled through a third party law office...My experience tells me that you must keep the transaction moving along toward closing...any stalls and it could mean disaster!!1 JMHO, Thanks,   Fran

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Yeah, Sally- You go girl! You are such a joy too and any client is blessed to have you be their agent!

10:15pm • #49
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2008
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Sally - a friend of mine who works mortgages was telling me that she is getting people financed that have a score of just 600!!!!

9:48pm • #50

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