Given the current economic state of affairs we are all looking for ways to conserve energy.  One very frequently overlooked place of wasted heat is up the chimney. 

 Fireplace

    As light winds move across the top of the chimney a negative pressure is created on the chimney causing it to literally suck heat out of the house.  If you open a window or door, or increase the wind speed, the flow is dramatically increased.  When the damper is completely missing, as it was in the fireplace pictured above, the waste of heat is continual-----you are literally heating the whole outdoors.  This picture is looking up inside the fire box to where the damper is supposed to be.Missing damper

      Even with proper dampers in place, this can still be a place where much heat is lost from the home.

     Having glass door enclosures installed can help a lot, but remember----many of these have air intakes at the bottom that provide combustion air to the fireplace.  If they are left open when the fireplace is not in use they can still allow heat to be drawn up the chimney.

     If you "really" want to waste a lot of energy (unless it is your only means of heating the home) actually use the fireplace.  Fireplaces, during use, without proper glass enclosures, suck tremendous volumes of air from the home.  This is why rooms away from the fireplace become so much colder than the room the fireplace is in.  While some fireplace designs provide less waste than others, they are no match for more modern methods of heating. 

     As long as we are going to stick with the notion of "central heating" as opposed to "specific location" heating (hot stones and water bottles under the blanket), we are sort of stuck with central heating.

     When the kids and I used to go camping at the beach it was always fun to build a fire on the beach and then take one of the hot rocks back to the tent and put it in the end of our sleeping bags.  Did you ever notice how when you are camping and you are nice and warm in your sleeping bag and then when you wake up in the morning the inside of the tent is dripping with the condensation created from breathing during the night?   The same principle happens in your home when the whole home isn't heated evenly.

     I would go so far as to say that maintaining uniform temperatures in homes is essential to maintaining a healthy indoor environment.  Due to what can happen from adverse moisture conditions in today's energy efficient and "tight" homes, wildly fluctuating temperatures within the home will lead to mold growth inside the home---- and is therefore considered bad juju by most authorities.

     Is your fireplace damper opened or closed right now?

Charles Buell  

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22 Comments on The best way to get stoned in your sleeping bag!

OCT
17
2008
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You got me curious the title of your blog.  This is very good info to remember when paying extra for that fireplace that with use will cost you even more.

I like sleeping in a sleeping bag in my tent.  Never thought to do the hot rocks trick though...

kk

9:07am • #1
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Great title -- I am sure you will find all of the old "deadheads".  I had no idea about the consequences of uneven temps throughout the home.  My damper is closed -- However, I am going to look into the glass enclosures.  Godd idea.

9:11am • #2
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Charles, I never thought of why the condensation inside the tent occurred just how wet and cold it was in the middle of the night.

After a few earthquakes in our area I was amazed at how many fireplace problems inspectors started finding...

9:21am • #3
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Kristal, the hot rocks are pretty nice when its cold.

Joan, you aren't saying something about yourself are you?:)

Paul, I am still finding fireplaces and chimneys destroyed by the 2001 Nisqually.

9:29am • #4

Charles,

Very few people have fireplaces here in Central Florida...but after I've read your post...it makes so much sense to me now...My brother has a fireplace and I've noticed that when we visit during those (three days of winter here in Florida) their back rooms are so cold and the only place in the house that it warm is right near the fire place...and during the times that he uses the fireplace there seems to be in increase in "mildew" in his home...I think I better share this post with HIM! Thank you as alwasy for such an informative post...and we love the pics you always manage to share with us too. Have a fantastic weekend!

9:35am • #5
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Thanks Rebecca, most of this stuff isn't "rocket science" but the bar of common knowledge is being raised about how these things happen in homes.

9:52am • #6
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I never put a hot stone into my sleeping bag....then again, I only like to camp out during those hot August nights!   Have a great weekend, Charles.

12:27pm • #7
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That clears up a lot. Being in Texas, we don't have a lot of use for fireplaces either. But strangely enough, most homes have them.

12:30pm • #8
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Charlie - I'm struggling with having a uniform temperature in my house. Sometimes it's not the way the house is built but poor design. I wish I had your expertise HERE! I bet you'd be able to figure it out!

1:34pm • #9
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Charles, you were right on the other blog.  Fireplaces are for the young AND romantic.  People just want to sit in front of them and feel cozy.  That is a very expensive feeling to obtain since the fireplaces are so wasteful.

3:40pm • #10
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Kara, now you will have something new to try in the winter:)

Trunda, there is a huge sentimental attachment to fireplaces.  They sybolize everything that is "home"----for many.

Carol, there are SO many factors.  Floor plan, vaulted ceilings, volume, duct sizing and positioning, furnace size, insulation, windows.  Basically everything----can have an effect on how even the temperatures are.

Barbara, in my experiece the "Romance" is worth it:)

5:48pm • #11
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HHHmmm, I need to locate my fireplace and see if that damper thingy is open or closed. Oh yea ..... we don't have a fireplace in this home, thank goodness. One less thing to have to keep clean.

Sean Allen

5:54pm • #12
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I loved your story about the rocks.  We decided to go with a free standing wood burning stove with a cook surface.  Boy are we glad we did.  When we had an ice storm 4 years ago I cooked a pot roast on it.  It was fabulous.  It heats my 2100 sq. ft.  home with no assistance.  It has a blower.  It has a glass door so we get to keep the "romance" and we always keep heart shaped rocks on the top of it that we put on our feet for a little extra warmth while watching tv when it's really cold. 

And right now the damper is completely closed.

6:34pm • #13
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Sean, at least you know what one is:)

Tammy, a free standing stove like you speak of is WAY better at maintaining even temperatures in a home (at least it can be) than a fireplace.  Even with those closed off rooms will be colder.  The negative effects of emergency heating methods on a home are usually not a problem----it is when they are the "only" means of heating the home that problems arise.   Then you have to start thinking about moving that heat to the other rooms.

6:45pm • #14
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Chuckie B,

How about you doing a story on fireplace inserts vs fireplace insets. Now that I could groove on.

8:11pm • #15

Dad you gotta make sure to tell these folks about "the hot potato disclaimer" that we used to wrap thoes roocks up in the beach towel first becaue other wise you were carring a 10 lb hot potato in the dark back to a tent that looks like all of the other 100 tents in the camp ground. if you had a good stone it would retain the heat in the morning.  Good times goood times... 

Klee B. Patel
10:51pm • #16
OCT
18
2008
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Steve, you are the expert on those----we are all waiting!

Klee, those definitely were some good times a Ruby Beach.  Here is a picture from there.

Ruby Beach, Olympic Penninsula

1:13am • #17
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So true Charles. I have an old wood burning fireplace and am looking for a better way to recycle the heat so that it all does not all go up the chimney...

5:05am • #18
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Charles,

A good trick when using the fireplace is to crack the nearest window. This will give the fire the air it needs without cooling the rest of the house.

I am curious as to why you would state that central heating would cause moisture problems. I understand that the closer to the heat source the warmer the rooms. Also colder air is denser and therefore can not hold as much moisture. All homes should have ventilation, usually in the attic, that is there to vent that moisture from the home.

In what way or how would the stove effect this venting of moisture. Please explain yourself Mr. Charlie:)

8:49am • #19
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Michael, let us know how you do with that project:)

James, I am confused.  In my post I said that central heating is the way to reduce the likelihood of moisture problems because with it you can more easily maintain uniform temperatures throughout the home.  Of cour5se even with this type of heat you can shut down zones or close registers or shot off radiators or whatever and create colder areas.  What happens is the warmer air in the warmer rooms DOES hold more moisture but because there is some communication of that warmer air with the colder rooms because the colder room air can't hold the moisture it condenses out on the colder surfaces is that room (behind the bureaus and beds, and on the windows etc). 

12:21pm • #20
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Charles,

Sorry I am the one who is confused. What I meant was specific location heating, not central. Anyway I understand the principal, all though I'm not convinced it can occur unless there are other contributing factors such as poor venting.

3:52pm • #21
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James, that is kind of what I hoped you meant:)  Anyway, as you know, inadequate venting in homes is pretty easy to achieve:)  "Dead spots" in air circulation in the home is even easier to achieve.

4:00pm • #22

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