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Short Sales are the bane of my existence.

And a pain in my a$$.

 

Started one early September morn.this short sale ain't happening

Sept 2nd to be exact.

Braced my buyers up front for a loooonnnng wait.

Said they were up for the challenge.

Submitted a Short Sale package to Popular mortgage on behalf of my well-prepped buyers.

Package was complete.

Not the first time around the block for the old broad.

Submitted package directly to the Bank.

Why?

No listing agent.

Savvy seller was a FSBO.

Could not jump high enough for joy.

Feeble attempt at sarcasm above.

Received receipt confirmation from within Bank within 2 weeks.

Checked office fax machine for label a la "Slow boat to China".

Fax machine label read "Made in China".

Left repeated messages w/Bank requesting update.

Bank responded w/message that they were "reviewing file" and they'd make a decision "w/in the week".

Notified Bank of awareness that sale date was set and looming.

Received v-message from Bank that sale date would be postponed so we could hash out a deal.

Left v-message that postponement was appreciated.

Received request from Bank that HUD1 be sent.

Left v-message that HUD1 was included in original package, but hey, sent copy w/in 2 hours of request.

Left v-message requesting confirmation receipt of HUD1.

Confirmation never acknowledged.

Left repeated messages w/Bank requesting update.

How does this tale of woe end?

Foreclosure sale took place October 9th.

Bank got 'er back.

Could not jump high enough for joy.

Yet another feeble attempt at sarcasm.

And another sad tale of a short sale.

Or lack thereof.

 

Moral of the story:

Left hand (foreclosure) has no friggin' clue what right hand (loss mitigation) is doing.

 

Stick a fork in me.

I'm done.

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Lanette Branch, RE/MAX 1st Advantage

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Lanette in Bel Air

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23 Comments on Sad Tale of a Short Sale

OCT
17
2008
980,247 Points 81 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Such a crappy situation. So poetically done. i am in one right now. Would not be able to write about it so beautifully, like you. Will simply be mad

11:20pm • #1
122,527 Points 6 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Thanks for stopping by Jon. Sure hope you have a better outcome w/yours.

At this point I really would like some feedback on how this might have been avoided.  How might I....have handled this better?

Any suggestions?

11:31pm • #2
OCT
18
2008
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They are all sad and they are all frustrating!  I am trying to avoid them, or should I say the frustration and high blood pressure they cause...I know I could make money on the sales, but it isn't worth it!

12:13am • #3
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We just pulled the plug on waiting for Ocwen to approve a short which was ratified with the sellers for close to 140 days. Our buyers are expecting their first baby in December and we really couldn't hang on any longer.

12:39am • #4
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I do not believe I have had the priviledge of being familiar with or even reading about a short sale that was fun, easy or pleasant......

6:06am • #5
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That was SO well written! Loved the Blackberry graphic! It just further enforces my opinion that this whole mess could have been avoided if there was ANY common sense prevailing. The last thing any of us needs are more bank owned properties in out neighborhoods.

7:54am • #7
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Just wait till the house gets listed as an REO and compare the list price to what your buyer had offered.

10:19am • #8
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In my experience, loss mitigation is the best point of contact. It's still a lengthy process, but at least the chances of being back-doored from foreclosure, are smaller. 

6:29pm • #9
OCT
19
2008
444,613 Points 71 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Hi Lanette!  I agree with Kris -- I got a great laugh - if only it wasn't such a bummer.    Very nicely written and will be a piece I go back and read to make my nexst short sale fun! -- Gabrielle

6:52am • #10
OCT
21
2008

Hey Lanette.  I appreicate you checking out my blog on "Sharing my success....".  I wanted to return the favor and see what you have been writing about.  This blog is a story that I have heard way more than I care to.  Being a Mortgage Banker it pains me to hear the service that Realtors and buyers get in these situations.  I have tried to understand things on my end more for the short sale to help with some "inside input", but I have nothing magical to give.

What I do know is:

  1. It can be a great oppertuntiy for the buyers
  2. The buyer side agent will have to do most or all of the work (as you painfully know)
  3. It is never a closed deal until the loan funds
  4. It takes a lot of deep breaths

The simple answer that I have found on the bank side of why this is such a hard transaction is actually very simple.  One hand does not know what the other is doing, and most of the time there are 5-10 hands in the pot.  And second, the people who handle the paperwork are overloaded.  They went from 10-15 files a week to 50!  The wheels are coming off the bus and we need to watch out.

I know this is not anything that can make things better but at least you have heard it straight from a mortgage professional.  No bull here, just straight talk.

7:18pm • #11
OCT
23
2008
122,527 Points 6 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

JD, thanks for the insight. 

No doubt about it, a short sale can be a tremendous deal for the buyer as long as they're willing and able to wait it out.

Also, I hear the workload per AM is more like in the hundreds?!

1:35pm • #12

My short sale listing just fell through because Countrywide was taking so long (it had been three months since the offer was made) and then the market crashed so the buyer did not get his VA loan because it took so long. I guess there is no Grandfather Clause in all this? So it will foreclose.

Bev

2:05pm • #13
OCT
26
2008

Okay. You guys have inspired me to share my latest Short Sale expenience.

This was as clear cut a hardship case as you have ever seen.

FACTS:

  • Wife is in the military .. was sent overseas
  • Husband's mother became ill (no insurance) - they had to help out
  • Husband lost his job
  • ALL of this was documented.
  • Countrywide was the only lender involved.

We received 3 offers ($340K, $310K and $295K) which we submitted. I went through 7 weeks of calling to their loss mitigation dept every Monday and Thursday. During each call I had to listen to the same prerecorded message and go through a lengthy interrogation to explain who I was, after which they would ask "would you mind if I put you on hold for 2-5 minutes while I read through the notes?"

  • At first my file was "not urgent enough" - the sale date is too far off.
  • When the sale date approached ... I ended up having them "postpone the sale date to consider the offers".
  • They assigned me a negotiator, who held it for a couple more weeks
  • The negotiator finally called to inform me that "Investors" wanted $339K (the $340K offer had walked away from the deal just 10 days prior). I don't blame them, they held on for 13 weeks - much longer than I would have held out in a market flooded with opportunities.
  • When I let the negotiator know that we had it sold if they would have just come back 2 weeks sooner ... her response was "yeah okay, who do you have interested in the property now?"
  • I offered it to the $310K and the $295K but neither budged.
  • It sat a month until the next offer and when I submiited it, I learned that we were back in the general sea of files... and we were no longer assigned the negotiator and we had a new sale date.
  • I got 2 new offers at $300K and one at $290K (which all seemed good to me - given the new comps we had to go with).
  • Extremely long story short ... I went through more of the same including: calls and more calls, another negotiator - who transferred me to a third negotiator ...
  • We finally got both sides to agree to a $300 k price.
  • When they did the inspection, they found a hole in the roof.
  • The buyer said they would take the house for $295K (considering the roof situation).
  • The bank responded - $300k is the bottom line
  • Buyer walked
  • Property foreclosed
  • Bank had to go in and fix the roof
  • If all of that was not enough... HERE IS WHERE I WAS BLOWN AWAY ...
    • They have now relisted at $279K with a repaired rook and paying full comission.

Maybe I'm missing something, but something is not right with this picture.

In this Reader's Digest version of an VERY long and grueling story there are at least 8 buyers who were made to wait for several weeks (or months) and an equal number of frustrated realtors (plus 1, myself) and a devastated seller whose credit is gone thanks to a terrible short sale system that needs attention and repair.

 

AMAZING Short Sale Story!!
6:10pm • #14
OCT
28
2008
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Lanette:  Sounds like you landed in the absolute worst short sale situation...a FSBO?!!!  Ugh!!  You were a listing agent and buyers' agent.  If you ever need some help with short sales, let me know.  I'm very familiar and teach a course for our local association that helps listing agents and buyers agents. 

9:28am • #15
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Hi Chris Ann!

Thanks for the offer of help...you know I'll be calling you!

9:32am • #16
OCT
29
2008

Lanette, Short sales are real pain but a necessary evil in today's market. Keep up the hard work and don't give up.

7:03pm • #17
124,149 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Really laughed.  Great way to tell the sad tale of a failed short sale.  appreciated the approach, the style, the writing. thanks.  and as an aside -- on Monday got word that Countrywide had finally approved a short sale package -- the third submitted, and it only took about 6 months!  arrgh.

7:08pm • #18
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Congratulations, Alexsandra! Who's wedding did you have to sing at to get that one through? Baha.

10:07pm • #19
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Sandy, I really try to prep my buyers for the wait in anticipation of their patience wearing thin.

Me, I will never give up!

10:18pm • #20
OCT
31
2008
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Hi Lanette, I'm working on one of these now too. I will send in the package to the attorneys today. Theye didn;'t have record that information could be released to me. Sent into the bank months ago. Said it would take 7 to 10 days to review that. Pretty stupid. I'm just sending the whole package to them and they can review the WHOLE thang.

8:50am • #21
NOV
08
2008
122,527 Points 6 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Lizette, Good luck w/that.  I'm hoping you fare far better than I!

I guess we should automatically send duplicates every week or so since the banks seem to lose certain paperwork so easily.  Let's add that to our short sale to-do list...

6:17pm • #22
NOV
10
2008
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Hi Lanette, I can help your investors with financing if they are interested in buying shortsales and flipping them to an end buyer. My private REIT has unlimited funds to fund these types of transactions. The REIT will provide funds for initial purchase, and also to the end buyer, so the investor can earn full spreads and avoid seasoning required by ALL conventional banks.

If you are intersted I would love to work with you. You can also check out my blog at:

http://activerain.com/blogsview/782441/We-provide-FUNDS-for-END-BUYER-on-Short-Sales-NO-SEASONING-earn-FULL-SPREADS

Josh David (JD)

704.998.7609

josh@josh-david.com

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