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Craig Proctor or Top Agent Institute?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Van West Realty - Greenville, SC Realtor -Short Sale Expert! BIC #69041

I was hoping some of my Active Rain colleagues out there might be able to share their opinions on a couple of marketing systems that both promise to help you build your real estate business. One such system is the Craig Proctor program/system and websites. The other is Top Agent Institute with Jeff Wilhems. Any opinions on the strengths and weaknesses of both of these real estate marketing systems would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!

real estate real estate
Providence, RI

Nice topic. I am offer to read the truth about Jeff Wilhems. My feeling is none of those will work as promised.

Oct 19, 2008 02:13 AM
Bill Kennedy
Keller Williams Greenville Upstate - Greenville, SC
Homes For Sale Greenville SC

That was an interesting video clip.  I don't remember seeing him on stage but I'm sure I did.  I'll be at the next CP event in November and I'm sure I'll bring back some new ideas!

Oct 19, 2008 03:50 PM
Samantha Nichols
ERA Belsito and Associates - Plymouth, MA
Massachusetts Real Estate Specialist

Interesting video, thank you. I'd heard of Craig but not Jeff. Sorry, can't compare them.

Oct 19, 2008 03:55 PM
Anonymous
The Truth

 

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

DISTRICT OF ARIZONA

Craig Proctor Productions, Inc., a

foreign corporation; CP Coaching, Inc.,

a foreign corporation,

Plaintiffs,

v.

Jeff Wilhems and Marcee Wilhems,

husband and wife; Top Agent Systems,

LLC, an Arizona company,

Defendants.

No. CV-08-562-TUC-DCB

 

Upon stipulation of the parties and good cause appearing, the Court finds:

1. The copyright in the materials used in the Craig Proctor Quantum Leap Real Estate system is owned by Plaintiff Craig Proctor Productions, Inc.

2. The copyright in the materials used in the Craig Proctor Twelve Month Coaching Program is also owned by Plaintiff Craig Proctor Productions, Inc.

3. The copyright in the materials used in the Craig Proctor Platinum Program is owned by Plaintiff CP Coaching, Inc.

4. Defendant Top Agent Systems is not authorized to use Plaintiffs' copyrighted works for any commercial purposes.

5. Defendants Jeff and Marsee Wilhems are not authorized to use Plaintiffs' Copyrighted Works for teaching others or for publication on the Internet.

IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED, Defendant Top Agent Systems, LLC, its officers,

agents, servants, employees and those persons in active concert or participation with it

who receive actual notice of this Order by personal service or otherwise are prohibited and

enjoined, pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 65 and 17 U.S.C. § 106, from reproducing, preparing

derivative works based upon, distributing to the public or performing or displaying

publicly the materials used in the Craig Proctor Quantum Real Estate System, the Craig

Proctor Twelve Month Coaching Program or the Craig Proctor Platinum Program (the

"Copyrighted Materials");

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, Defendant Top Agents Systems, LLC has no license

or authorization to use the Copyrighted Materials for any commercial purpose, including

publication on www.topagentinstitute.com or any other electronically accessible location,

or in connection with any real estate business or real estate agent training;

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, for purposes of enforcing this injunction, that

Defendant Top Agent Systems, LLC shall provide to a representative designated by

Plaintiffs full access to any materials used in Defendants' real estate agent training,

whether in print or electronic format, and will not publish, sell, distribute or otherwise

transfer or disclose any materials identified by Plaintiffs' representative as a copy or

derivative of the Copyrighted Materials. Access pursuant to this paragraph shall be

provided within ten (10) days of entry of this Order.

Dated this 7th day of January, 2009

 

 

STIPULATED INJUNCTION

Jan 12, 2009 07:38 AM
#4
Anonymous
Tony Kline
This person "The Truth" who is on every blog site is obviously related to Craig or works for him. If not, you sure give me that impression. Look at all the negative comments "The Truth" makes. They are all against Jeff's program and not Craigs and they are on every site I visit. Probably isnt even a Realtor. Because of that I feel there must be some type of association. Therefore I am going to invest in Jeff's program. I already tried the 300 pages of "STOP!" or" Warning" call this 1-800 number for your free report from the other so called real estate gurus out there and time has worn that tactic out. If you (The Truth) can't post your name then stay off the blogs. Your comments are worthless and hold no weight because you dont want anyone to know who you are. Also, the injunction doesn't charge Jeff with anything it just says that he can't copy Craig's system. I have tried many of the old systems and in todays faultering market a new approach is needed. My next stop is to find out how many home's Jeff's wife has sold this year. That will be the only testimony I need. In 2008 my sales crumbled in half because of the economy and also because I moved to a different area and started over from scratch. Now I am doing heavy advertising to try and build my business back up. I am always open to new ideas and tools that help create more business. Jeff's site sounds promising and I hope it is everything I expect. If it is a waste of money I will post my feedback on every real estate I can. If it helps my business I will recommend it on every site. I have been a Realtor for 19 years and have adopted many successful technics from many differnt avenues including my own. Best wishes to all ambitious Realtors out there and I will return next year with my feedback on Jeff's program. Sincerely, Tony Kline / AllStar Realty Inc. South Florida Realtor, (Broward and Palm Beach Counties) 5/17/09
May 17, 2009 05:27 AM
#5
Anonymous
Pat Norwine

I went to a Craig Proctor free seminar in Glendale, CA in Sept 2009 and bought the system for $295.  I was then able to visit the website and listened to all the many videos but couldn't figure out how to get started.  Fortunately a rep called me to follow up.  Told her I wanted to see examples of success websites.  She gave me the website address and boy were the examples busy and terrible examples to show.  I then asked her for Craig's personal website that consumers go to.  She didn't know it so gave me Quantum Leap phone number (1-800-538-1034).  I called them and left a message for James (I believe he is the one on the videos) plus sent him an email requesting website address for Craig's personal website.  That was on 10/2/09 and I'm still waiting.    I don't think he was one or someone would have given it to me.

I don't recommend buying his system.  I feel I wasted my $295. And there isn't a money back guarantee if you don't like his system.  Once you pay, there isn't even a 24 hour change of mind.

In the meantime, I've discovered another company called Advanced Access that has templates and articles and links.  Everything you need done for you.  I've been working with Bridgett Ziemann and she is great.  I am a novice at this and she is very patient with me. 

Patricia Norwine, Los Angeles, CA

Oct 06, 2009 06:02 AM
#6
Anonymous
Bridget Ziemann

Patricia,

Thank you so much for mentioning me in your blog. I am so happy you are pleased with our services. I value the feedback from my clients very much. Should you know anyone else who would like to get started with a website with us please feel free to have them contact me at 888-902-4653 x1023 or bziemann@advancedaccess.com. Please have them mention your name so that I can keep track of any referrals you send my way.

Have a great day! =)

Bridget Ziemann

Advanced Access

888-902-4653 x1023

bziemann@advancedaccess.com

 

Dec 03, 2009 02:59 AM
#7
Anonymous
Kat and Ron Becker

Well, well, well..........how sad if anyone reading this blog takes the word of others who have tried and failed at Craig's Quantum Leap System. Craig Proctor has changed our lives and our careers by leaps and bounds. We went from selling 10-12 homes in a year, to 20 the first year with Craig, 42 the next and 75 last year. Over $15 million in sales and $400,000 in GCI.....and we did all of that with 1 buyer's agent. So if you want to catapult your real estate career and stop complaining about the market with your fellow agents around the water cooler, get out there and take a Quantum Leap. Don't crawl, don't walk, don't skip, don't jump.......but FLY to one of Craig's Super Conferences and experience this life changing event! We won Century 21's Centurion Award thanks to CRAIG PROCTOR. Here's to your success!

Kat and Ron Becker

Feb 03, 2011 05:14 PM
#8
Mike Crosby
Mike Crosby Realty - Placentia, CA
Placentia- Yorba Linda Real Estate - 714-742-2897

There are is a wide range of opinions on the Craig Proctor system.   I purchased the Home study course and then went to the 3 day course several year ago.   I did not impliment the whole system.  But I did use the VIP Buyer presentation and a modified version of the VIP Buyer.  That piece along has been worth Thousands and thousand to me.  If not Craig Proctor, Who would you suggest getting information from?

Apr 02, 2013 01:18 PM