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14 Comments on Communication Break Down ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ it's always the same ....
I run from them as fast as I can...this story is incredible...
Hey, Lewis, time to chill! :-)
You are to be commended for even bothering with a person with scores in the 400s with and "improved" score sub 580. If it were my client I would have waved bye-bye long ago.
I can't believe this Realtor with 20+ years experience is even putting you through this mess. He must know rates are highly volatile and that a loan for someone with those scores are gonna have high rates. The client should be happy he/she is getting a loan (but based on the score they have probably come to expect that they can borrow money anytime/anywhere and not pay it back) and stay away from late night infomercials.
I feel for ya, Lewis. I would cut these guys loose long ago.
When I have a problem with a realtor.... it is usually when they TELL ME what to do and when.
I am sorry.... But when the contract is inked, I AM DRIVING THE BUS!! At that point, the realtor is to get me anything that OUR client is slow getting to me.... not telling me how to do my job or illegally steer MY CLIENT!!
Hey Lewis. Love the Zeppelin reference. As a Realtor, I never get involved in the loan process. I tell my clients I am the expert as far as real estate goes, the lender is the expert as far as financing goes. I am completely hands off when it comes to my preferred lenders. All I ever ask is for communication on the progress of the loan. There are still a lot of, how do we say, "low information" Realtors out there still, who still don't understand the short sale process. Best of luck.
Pat - no need to run.... I make the rules :-)
Ken - I hear ya! Your a Maryland agent - maybe I should send them your way :-)
Tom - my first words to this realtor in the AM - I AM DRIVING THE BUS!!! I love it! So right....
Jerry - you sound like a realtor i would partner up with - especially a Zep fan! by the way - the short sale process has never been a short process........
Lewis.... hits on a 580 or below? I don't have any hits and I don't need credit scores.... LOL
Seriously.... that is a realtor that I would not want to do business with. Can you honor the rate from a GFE from 3 months ago? Yes, certainly, no problem... if rates went down... lol Just like those that lock a rate in, but if rates go lower, they want the lower rate. But why can't I raise the rate on a client that was locked in? What ever happened to common sense?
Getting back to your issues.... I would not submit this loan without a banks approval. I don't trust short sales even when there is a contract.... not until the 3 day attorney review is done. And wait, most buyers want to have a home inspection done... and if there are more than basic repairs needed, it wouldn't have a gods chance to close by the end of the month. I refuse to do leg work on something that is not concrete on the selling side of things. I will pre-approve a guy on a basic amount... but this situation is a little different.
In any case, good luck with this one... and yes, people, buyers, realtors,.. many don't understand that you just can't compare rates and costs... not until you know the credit scores... even HUD has some guidelines when it comes to credit scores. If you have a score under 500, HUD wants 10% down or more.... it all comes back to education with mortgages and credit scores. You just can't be a realtor and tell your client that you have a shit deal, until you know all the facts... and not just income and credit... credit scores and ratios...
PS... like the new picture..
Yeah, really. Heck, he cleans up pretty good.... eh Jef?
LOL.... I just read the last part again.
Exactly WHY does this need to close by month's end? For the buyer? For the seller(bank)? Or is it someone's commission? <= I know where I have MY money.
hhhmmmmmm for the realtor? So they can get some Christmas gifts? and yes, Lewis cleans up well.
Lewis - You are a handsome chap. I will be back to make my real comment later. I'm in the middle of waxing intellectual with my cat while trying to construct prose on world domination.
(commission... what's that?)
Will everyone please stop flirting with me!!
Lewis is getting the Led out! neat dude!
Don't even fight it Lewis, as you said your are driving the bus. When the agent asks if you can close by EOM you say no...
Get me a contract signed by both parties and a green light after the inspections and I'll tell you when we can anticipate a closing. Good luck sir, you will need to reign that one in or they will be wanting you to pay per diem charges!
...and the pic does do you well!
Gerry Suarez, Jr.
Your FHA Loan Pro!
Jeff - thanks for your comments as always. I got the signed contract Friday, the loan has gone thru underwiting and we are just waiting on the bank to ok the final hud. Believe it or not, this bad boy might just close on the 30th.
Tom - everyone is pushing to close, including the borrower so as long as everyone understood we would be waiting on the bank, all is good.
Jason - are you flirting with me yet again???
Gerry - a rock and roller from years past ehhh??? I reigned it in but they got me what I wanted. I almost killed this deal - glad I didn't. Sometimes I go with my gut. Sometimes I am right and sometimes I am wrong....
and oh yeah ---- Go Skins!
Lewis: Sorry to hear abour your troubles. it sounds like you're going to get this one done and that's the main thing. Good luck!
Paul