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Spin it Obama... spin it...

If you haven't heard the comment from the last couple of days by Biden, you have missed a LOT.

"And here's the point I want to make. Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he's gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you, not financially to help him, we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right. Because all these decisions, all these decisions, once they're made if they work, then they weren't viewed as a crisis. If they don't work, it's viewed as you didn't make the right decision, a little bit like how we hesitated so long dealing with Bosnia and dealing with Kosovo, and consequently 200,000 people lost their lives that maybe didn't have to lose lives. It's how we made a mistake in Iraq. We made a mistake in Somalia. So there's gonna be some tough decisions. They may emanate from the Middle East. They may emanate from the sub-continent. They may emanate from Russia's newly-emboldened position because they're floating in a sea of oil."

The bold emphasis is mine...

The thing to keep in mind here is that Joe Biden did NOT say that ANY President would face these tests. Joe Biden did NOT say that Obama would make the right decisions.

But, on Fox News (I tried to hear about it on other news outlets, but they really aren't talking about this...), the Obama surrogates are spinning it like this:

"What Joe Biden was saying was that any President is tested by the crisis that occur all of the time. It isn't about Obama. Joe also said that Obama would make the right decisions.

No it isn't. That isn't what Biden said. It is VERY MUCH NOT what Biden said.

This strategy is called "The Big Lie". If the big lie is repeated often enough, and not refuted, it will be the truth. The Obama camp is well practiced in the big lie. They use it a LOT. The story keeps changing on so many issues in regards to Obama and the election, but they are very good at morphing their story. It helps not to have to face a tough media.

I'd love to hear from you...

Posted by Lane Bailey - REALTOR & Car Guy on 10/22/2008 11:02 AM

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OCT

2008

I'm with ya on this one Lane. Recently, I wrote an ActiveRain blog entry on, "Are Obama's Plans Socialist?" I'm thinking were in a world of hurt and spin in the coming months. Unfortunately, McCain doesn't offer us much better, but at least he's the 'lesser of two evils!' ;)

Joe The Idiot. Your village called. They want you back.

ah, the big lie...repeated countless times, people actual start to believe it as fact...like, when the Repubs and Fox Noise still, to this DAY, say Iraq had something to do with 9/11...what was that percentage of people watching Fox Noise that believed this? Something like 80%...crazy, eh?

If I were a McCain supporter, and had donated money, I would be more concerned that the campaign went on a $150K spending spree for Palin's clothes...Don't ever make fun of a $400 haircut again!

Hey, Lane. You are right it all is a "BIG LIE". I love how all of a sudden he changed is slogan this morning from "Change" to "Judgment to Lead". What he is not saying is how he would lead us to chaos. He is going to have a rude awaking when the media turns on him and you know that they will, it is the media after all. Lastly, when Obama is tested there is no doubt in my mind that he will fail. Thanks, Jim

This strategy is called "The Big Lie". If the big lie is repeated often enough, and not refuted, it will be the truth.

Lane, surely, you're not suggesting that ONLY the Obama campaign is responsible for repeating something often enough so it will be considered truth, are you?

When I first heard that comment uttered by Biden, I was like 'How is it possible that no one is making a big deal about this?', well thankfully people caught on and a few days later it is all that we are hearing about. My very first thought was 'he just sealed the nail in Obama's coffin', but people are too apt to forget, to get comfortable and complacent and they do not see the reality that we are very at risk. It seems that only seven years after 9/11/01, people have gotten lazy and lulled into a false sense of security. They don't realize that having a President who is more pacifistic in nature could seal the nail in the coffin of America!

Hi,

My brother, who has been an honest investment professional wrote me an email to expain why, how and who are some of the contributing factors in this financial crisis. I then saw a blog from Ben Stein who pretty much said the same thing without naming people who might be involved. Iput them on my blog at sandy reid. Very interesting when you see the amounts of money they are talking about.

Thank you for sharing.

Best,

Sandy

I would just like to say that I think this election is being fought by the media. I have never been afraid of the results of an election before but I can tell you this one scares the hell out of me. The media is so one sided on this election that I think Obama could commit murder and they would not mention it. I was listening to fox this morning and they had on an Obama aid who said what you repeated that, what he meant was any president and I have to say I also heard the words Barack Obama.

What I really believe is that our country is in for a long haul because we have such a corrupt government. But we should all fear giving the dems control of congress, senate and Commander in Chief.

Thanks for the post like to know there are others out there who take umbrage about the same things I do.

To the lad who was worried about Sara's wardrobe: the RNC was responsible for this. The expense was not just for Sarah, but her family also. This shows me that the Palen family didn't come with the expensive wardrobe necessary on a national stage. That has nothing to do with her. But, if you don't like someone one excuse is as good as another.

McCain wasn't my first choice, but he is head and shoulders above the alternative. With a far-left president and a far-left Congress, we would be in a heap of trouble. Just be prepared to give more and more to the government and keep less and less or what we work hard to earn.

As for Iraq: that had nothing to do with 911 it had everything to do with Saddam violating the terms of the cease fire agreement. He got what he earned!

Yeah, my husband has been making the comment that the media is helping Obama look good.

Lane, thanks for posting this, I had missed it, because I have tried to not watch any of the major media for the past couple of weeks. Sounds like the Veep candidate knows his partner is overmatched by the job that they're trying for!

The only thing I can see is people think the economy will be better for them under a new party. I think they will regret it down the road.

Lane,

It is amazing, isn't it? Sadly, I think we will be tested if he becomes President, but not until he thinks he has made some friends out there. Thanks for the post!

Joe & Colleen - I think there are a lot of people that will be shocked that higher taxes will equal lower profits, and that will translate to their 401k going down because of Obama's tax plans...

Rob & Jeannie - I don't think Joe is an idiot... misguided perhaps. But the problem is he says things that are true... and Obama hates that.

Jake - Nevermind the 14 UN mandates... Those don't really count, right?

Jim & Maria - Judgement to pick bad allies... That one he has down.

Alan - I have not said that... but the media doesn't challenge Obama (except those pesky people at Fox). So, since you weighed in, can you enlighten us on something that mcCain has said over and over that is demonstrably untrue? I know you should be able to, becuase I know what he has said that isn't true...

Lisa - For all of the talk about how bad Bush has been... there hasn't been another attack in the US... and AQ HAS tried.

Sandy - There are a LOT of people that have made out on the financial crisis... and up to the financial crisis... and a LOT of them are giving a LOT of money to Obama...

Jacque - I'm not afraid... But I am concerned that the media has gone this far into the tank of one candidate.

Roger - You touched on the biggest issue for me right now... Unified Government. That is the ugly part...

Angelia - They are his bonus campaign workers...

Tony & Darcy - I can't help but watch the train wreck...

John - I think that most of the people that are supporting Obama think THEY will be better... but they aren't looking deeper... where they will be affected by the damage he does to the larger economy.

John - The world wants Obama... and the world wants a weaker US. Odd, that.

thats the nature of politics Lane. Everyone knows that the other side is listening and waiting to pounce on anything you say, use to discredit you and to use to their advantage. Put your vote where your mouth is because the USA's politics and politicians even if they arent 100% always right are the best democratic system in the world!

And I agree that our 401K's are declining now. More taxes are not the answer but will probably be necessary in the near future if either party gets elected.

Lane or anyone else here, if youre still voting for McCain? how about something positive about him? why would we want McCain as president? All i ever hear from McCain supporters is that they bust on Obama?

Josef Goebels said that when he ran the Nazi Propaganda machine. How appropriate you compared the liberal press to this nazi propaganda madman. The same madness is happening in America with the help of the liberal media who will not report both sides and hide the flaws of a candidate that is not redy to lead this country. And they know it.

We get Dish TV and as we were flipping through the channels tonight we noticed for the first time that Obama has his own channel. The Obama Channel 073. If you have Dish, check it out. This is amazing and scary.

Stephen - And the point of that is? Joe Biden knows that the other side is listening and that is the best he can do? What is he going to say that pisses off Putin or some other tyrant?

Let's see... John McCain has shown leadership while an aviator in the Navy, as well as his time in the Senate. He has bucked the GOP trend on a LOT of issues to do what HE thought was right, not what was popular. He has shown fiscal conservatism... heck, look at his earmark history. He has pulled in less in his whole time in the Senate than Obama has in less than one term... even if you only count the stuff Obama has requested for campaign staffers. He is MUCH less beholden to lobbyists. I know that you would come back about the lobbyists on McCain's team, but look at the special interest money that Obama has accepted... not to mention that two of his economic advisors took $110million from Fannie Mae... and BOTH left after allegations of cooking the books. McCain took his rebuke from the Senate pretty seriously after his "involvement" with Charles Keating... and has worked VERY hard to not be involved with questionable characters. Keep in mind that McCain and John Glenn both were rebuked for having poor judgement in their involvement with Keating. Three other Democrat Senators were all guilty of ethic violations... but not McCain or Glenn. Of course, one should also note that when McCain became involved with Keating... Keating wasn't a wanted criminal.

Nicholas - Not a mistake. Not a coincidence.

Lisa - And he makes Oprah cry when he speaks... I just want to barf and throw something at my TV.

Nicholas are you f***en insane comparing the today's liberal media to Nazi propoganda and Lane you agree? Macho Maniacs and Mechanics for McCain rah rah!

Stephen - Not to the propaganda, the machine... the way that they do it. Of course, a major difference is that I don't think that the network media is colluding or directed. But, there is NO question that the vast majority of the members of the network media are liberal in their views... and they seem to have a giant problem being objective. And their lack of objectivity is the heart of the problem...

In many ways I was glad to hear this from Biden, and as you mentioned the Obama camp is trying to spin this around. This is the second time in the past few weeks that Biden has opened his mouth a tad too far. The other time that comes to mind was in the VP debate where Biden said that Obama told him that he will need him (Biden) at all meeting in the oval office to advise him.

Now it has been said TWICE by Biden that Obama won't make the right decisions.

Sean Allen

OCT

2008

November 4th can't come quickly enough .....

Sean - Too bad the media won't say anything bad about Obama...

Stewart - Yep... as the race tightens, I would bet that as an Obama supporter you want it to come faster... he seems to fade late. But, I think that he will prevail as he did in the primaries. However, I think there will be a different tune in just a couple of years. Look for a GOP controlled House and possibly even Senate in the 2010 elections... and a landslide win for the GOP in 2012 if Obama gets his way. Americans are NOT going to like 12% unemployment rates, rising taxes for people making as little at $50k (his "only over $250k will start sliding down even before he is sworn in) and renewed terror attacks.

You heard it here first... Ok, Joe Biden said part of it first.

I don't think even Joe Biden likes Obama.

Michelle

OCT

2008

Michelle - You might be right... But he wants the job.

Michelle & Lane come on two guys can have a difference of opinion cant they? Look at McCain & Palin? she wants to run the Senate being the Vice President?

Stephen - Be very careful when you give an answer like that... From the US Constitution:

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

Thomas Jefferson was in the Senate every day... very hands on. The President Pro Tempore serves when the Vice President is unavailable... that is how the Constitution is set up. BTW, the Vide Presidents duties are outlined in the Legislative section of the Constitution. And it has only been in the last century that the VP started having a larger Executive presence.

In essence, Biden's answer was less correct than Palin's.

Biden: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that. And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit. The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous.

Let's start pointing out things...

Article I defines the Legislative branch, not the Executive.
Article I DOES define the role of the VP, but since the VP is ONLY mentioned in the Article I (Legislative Branch) and NOT in Article II (Executive Branch), it is obvious that the VP is actually a member of the Legislative Branch...
In Article I, Section 3, where the dutires of the VP are defined, there is NO mention of supporting the President.
The VP is only allowed to vote in the case of a tie, but their duties are NOT limited to that... the VP IS the President of the Senate.
The Constitution IS explicit... and Biden was on the wrong side of that.
Obviously is the Framers of the Constitution installed the VP in the Legislative section, and only there, Cheney might actually know more about the document than Biden. One would also think that Obama (Constitutional Law Professor?) would know that as well...

So, Stephen, it is nice that you have run with the notions of the left leaning media, but they are quite wrong in making Palin out as not knowing about the duties of the VP... Biden is the one that fully failed that question. Too bad CNN couldn't mention that.

thank you Lane for the info but on a daily basis the reality of the situation is that the Vice President main duty is to support the President and not run the Senate.

Stephen - Ok, I get it. Asked about the duties of the Vice President, the Constitution isn't important. Did you completely miss the point? Biden kept talking about how explicit the Constitution was able specifics. In EVERY CASE, he was WRONG. The media gave him a giant hall pass, and the same people are saying that Palin doesn't understand the Constitution... when she clearly had the correct answer.

It owuld be like the teacher's pet blowing an answer on a math test, while the kid back in the corner got it right... and the teacher changing the question so that the favored student wouldn't be wrong.

Admit it. Biden screwed up, and doesn't even know the job he is trying to get.

Biden might be a statesman that has been in DC since the British burned it, but he is an idiot. Sarah Palin has been trashed by the media, called stupid and worse, but she is obviously smarter than Biden... and possibly more qualified to NOT make an ass out of herself.

OCT

2008

Yes the constitution is obviously important but so isnt reality! and Yes Biden has to get his mouth in check with his brain! Lane Sarah Palin has already made an ass out of herself- Troopergate? The Bridge to Nowhere, $150K worth of VP clothes paid by our tax dollars when we are in the middle of a recession? She's only been a VP pick for maybe what a month and a half?

She doesnt have any experience on the federal level or foreign policy experience (no I can see Russia from my house doesnt qualify?!) and in my opinion not qualified to be President of the USA! She's just another sham pick from McCain designed to get female voters from Hillary Clinton since his own party republicans Huckabee and Romney didnt want the VP!

Stephen - Sorry, but Joe didn't know what he was talking about... and nobody has bothered to point it out. Nice...

Troopergate? She didn't do anything against the law, but abused her power? That is a BS ruling, and you know it. That means that they wanted to find that sdhe did something wrong, but they can't find anything so they made something up...

The Bridge to Nowhere? Really... Obama was getting funding through earmarks for campaign workers on his campaign.

The clothes... Obviously she wasn't ready to be on the national stage and didn't already have a closet full of expensive clothes for her and the family... unlike Obama and Biden... and even McCain. That makes her like a normal person. If I got selected, I would need a make-over and a new wardrobe.

And speaking of being an ass... Look at the comments of Joe Biden in the last month and a half. If he got nailed as hard as Palin, he would just be stuck to the wall.

Obama doesn't have any foreign policy experience, executive experience, or leadership experience. And he doesn't have any experience working in a bi-partisan environment. Not only that, but he doesn't seem to appreciate the constitution, capitalism or freedom... I would say that he is LESS qualified to be President than Palin. Joe Biden... 30 years on the Hill and he doesn't know what the Constitution says? Really.

Yes Joe said something wrong and the media pointed it out and nailed him for it. The media does work both ways sometimes!

Troopergate wasnt a figment of the media's imagination Lane! I guess abusing your power as governor doesnt count as wrong doing for some reason? She and it is fair game!

The point is that Palin's campaign (McCain?) spent not a couple of thousand but $150K of new clothes in the most expensive stores when the rest of us are in a recession and other six pack Joe and the plumbers wifes dont even have a job?! I agree obviously she wasnt ready for the national stage a month and a half ago! Is she ready now?

Obama loves this country, our democracy, its constitution and will do everything in his power to uphold it once elected!

OCT

2008

Stephen - Something? The guy has repeatedly made dunderheaded statements, and the media gives him a pass. If it weren't for Fox, nobody would know that Biden said that Obama would be tested and it would look like he made the wrong decisions. We wouldn't know that he doesn't know the Constitutional duties of the VP... in fact, several newspapers said that Palin didn't know what the Constitution said... but in each case they failed to actually quote the Constitution... and in several cases use Biden's answer as the basis for why they thought Palin was wrong.

And Troopergate... According to the report, Palin was within her rights to fire the head of the Public Safety Department, and there was no issue with that... but that she abused her power. So, the bigger question would be why would a Trooper NOT be fired after threatening people lives, driving a state vehicle while under the influence of alcohol, poaching and tasering his step-son? Seriously...

And what is the issue about the clothes? Did YOU pay for them? Unfortunately, female candidated are expected to wear a different outfit every day throughout the campaign. Unlike Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin isn't a multi-millionaire. I would also bet that the Palins don't donate the underwear to charity for the tax deduction and take $5+ for each item... as Bill Clinton has. And Palin didn't ASK for the clothes. In fact, she didn't go on shopping sprees, the clothes were bought for her.

Obama loves himself and power. That is it. He VERY obviously won't do everything in his power to uphold the Constitution... If so, he wouldn't be taking money from one group of people to give to another. And while he calls it a tax cut, it isn't a tax cut when the government CUTS A CHECK to someone... and since 40% of the population doesn't pay taxes, the ONLY way to "give them a tax break"... since they pay $0, is to give them money somoene else earned.

BTW, that is socialism. There isn't a question about that.

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