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44 Comments on Sarasota Association of REALTORS - Who Does It Really Hurt??
It's about time Active Rain featured this post. I'm sick and tired of the same people being featured all the time with little or nothing to contribute. All Active Rain users, take note! This could happen to you so take part and show your support.
Congrats on being featured!
This is a nightmare. Be sure and let us know when you run. I want to vote and I NEVER do.
Paul:
Thanks for keeping the pressure on SAR to do the right thing and allow Marc to re-direct the domain.
The fact that they have already re-directed it to themselves is shameless.
I agree with you 100%. Let's get as many Realtors involved as possible.
Hey Paul check out gulfbreezemls.com Our board sent him a letter to take it done this guy after a fight and half had his lawyer get involved along with DOJ and the board let it drop. This guy owns several others I can't remember them. I dont know all the details but I do know they went the distance and then about three months ago I was asking around and it was a sore subject with the board and it was even taken out of the minutes of the meetings. Maybe this will help or maybe not but I own pensacolarealtor and don't intend to give it up our board even had to use .org because I want give it up.
Great information, Screw NAR, they take my money and give me NOTHING!
Now they're the Internet police, I thought that was Obama's job with his new "fairness Doctrine".
Just like unions, power creates greed, and corruption.
You work you ass off to build a site and these "union thugs" come and take it from you.
We live in scary times. Our rights to free speach are the next target!
Paul... Thanks for taking the time to share this information. Hard to believe something like this could happen. I'm not doubting it... Just in shock !
"The Associations exist because we PAY for them to exist" is more true than you know. So why in the worl do we let them have such control? Reminds me of our current government issues. Excellent points throughout, and as I sit on our local Association board I can honestly say more people need to get involved and be heard; even I am only one voice and sometimes back up would be a good thing.
Fellow AR members, you seriously need to consider sending this article to other agents, especially the tech savvy web 2.0 agents in your home towns. They will be the ones looking down the barrel of a loaded gun, not the envious ones that don't have a clue.
Excellent. I just checked the cache of AR's home page and this entry is cached into the mix. Should help to increase search engine visibility for this blog and the search phrases nested within. :)
I really think that more & more agents will be leaving the NAR. I know of one very successful broker here in Ft. Myers that refuses to join and has refused to join for several years. Luckily we can still join the local MLS, just not the board.
I'm a member and I especially love all the solicitation calls I receive from realtor dot com asking me to spend more money for better rankings, featured listings and the such. Don't we already pay enough? Geeze.
And as a BROKER I strongly encourage all my agents to brand THEMSELVES. That is what consumers want. They want to know YOU. Most don't care about the NAR either. But alas, we succumb.
I have followed Marc for some time. This really does suck. I'm sure it was one of his competitors that raised a stink or else some agent up there who has NO business and wanted someone to blame. BLAH. Who cares even if they did think he was the MLS? So long as he is helping consumers as he is supposed to, right? He is a member! duh....
It is so unfortunate to have taken the time to build something only to have it taken away, especially, if I am correct in my understanding, that the URL did not violate the rules at the time it was created.
Hi Paul,
I am so glad you found my comment on the Inman post. Your story stuck with me, I am sorry I didn't remember the details or your name - I read too much. A realtor in Long Beach suffered the same problem with the url Long Beach Realtor. Again a successful Realtor with a very successful site - over 10 years old if I recall correctly, he, like yourself and Rassmusen should have been grandfathered in when they decided to change the rules.
Of course you and I understand that the rules were changed with the absolute intention of stealing these intense lead producing sites. I would fry my site before I would let them touch it. If they took it I would go to any length to destroy it and would be successful in that venture, at any cost.
Congratulations, this post is #10 on Google for the search term sarasota association of realtors! This puts a smile on my face, but what really gave me an ear to ear grin were the pages and pages of other blogs supporting Rassmusen for the same search term. Online reputation management is very important, Kathy Roberts, the CEO of the Sarasota Association of Realtors (SAR) would have understood the repercussions of her actions if she had spent any time familiarizing herself with the habits of the blog-o-sphere.
Every person reading this post should haul their butts over to the Inman post and read every single comment. They start to get especially good about 1/2 way through, but read each and every one of them and learn. Learn about GREED and THEFT and ABUSE OF POWER. Learn what happens when you become so successful that the brokers and your board want what you have and will conspire to take it from you. Learn about how NAR will support those efforts. Most of all learn about how to defend yourself. Learn about reputation management and how to band together with other bloggers to flood the search terms of the offensive NAZI's who would steal your lifes work without regard. Learn!
Excellent post Paul, nice to cross paths with you again.
Ha! I just jumped over to your original post and see that I featured it. At the time I was moderating the AR system. That made me smile yet again!
And here is the Inman post that Laurie refers to - http://www.inman.com/news/2008/10/16/mls-name-dispute-lands-in-court
@Christine - Precisely. Marc's site was up long before the amendment was made to Article 12 and with the amount of visitors that his site had with zero complaints from consumers that the Sarasota Association of REALTORS can produce -- is evidence enough in my eyes that the use of MLS in a domain name does not confuse or mislead visitors.
Marc's site was targeted due to it's success in traffic and search engine rankings --- which had little if anything to do with MLS being in the domain name but because of all his hard work. If his site would have been on Page 10 of Google, I highly doubt that the Sarasota Association of REALTORS would have spent the Association's Money going after him the way they did.
According to Marc Rasmussen on the Inman Post concerning the MLS Domain Name Dispute -
5) Cherry also said that high rank of Rasmussen's Web site for consumers who search for "Sarasota MLS" "gives him significant competitive advantage that is unfair to other Realtors in our area."
So, is the Sarasota Association of REALTORS a socialist organization??
As I am sure you are very well aware of -- Decisions such as what was made by ICANN opens the doors as a tool for other Associations to use the same tactics. Unfortunately, the first targets will be REALTORS and not all of the Non-REALTOR sites using MLS in their titles, descriptions, etc...
What will be next if things like this are allowed to happen without REALTORS speaking up?
Are High ranking websites going to be Sarjacked because a significant competitive advantage that is unfair to other REALTORS in the area?
@ Laurie Manny - Thanks for the Feature long, long ago! I was waiting for you to pop in and for you to speak your mind on this topic. :)
Hi all,
I wrote a post with a brief timeline of events pertaining to this case - http://www.luxurysarasotarealestate.com/blog/sarasota/marc-rasmussen-vs-sarasota-association-of-realtors-over-thesarasotamlscom/show/
Nothing earth shattering but I read a few inconsistencies across the web. More importantly, I wanted to thank everyone for all of the support. I've said it before but I really am proud to be associated with a great group of people.
Thanks for stopping by Marc and sharing the harrassment you have had to go through with this. I've added the link to your blog post at the top.
I found this statement in the Herald Tribune hilarious (disturbing?) by the way:
"Cherry said the association's position is that even if Web users know once they reach Rasmussen's site that it is not actually SAR, or even if it is redirected to his new site, by that point the damage has been done, as the "initial confusion" caused would still hurt SAR's business."
I must be confused as to what business REALTOR Associations are in?
Paul what a bummer. I have heard bits and pieces of this story. It is a shame. When I get a minute I am going to check out his new site.
As I learned many decades ago, though, one shouldn't make presumptions about what a larger organization is, or is not, doing unless one is intimately privileged about what's going on inside that larger organization. Some things simply take a little longer than other things. It's much easier to track down, and fine, a member, than it is a non-member, so what might seem to be an injustice might simply be taking a little longer. Then thing to do is to write NAR and ask for a response.