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Godaddy domain forwarded to Keller Williams Site....Need Help!!!

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Real Estate Agent with Long Realty SA662761000

Okay, I am looking for some expertise here. I have a Keller Williams website that has a sub domain of .yourkwagent.com. I previously had a Godaddy domain of JoshSellsVirginia.com and have forwarded that domain to my KW domain of JoshSellsVirginia.yourkwagent.com.

My questions are; is the KW domain suitable for SEO? Is there anything I can do like 'Masking' to make my site any more 'friendly'? Also, now that I have the new domain, should I be requesting backlinks and submitting in directories for my old domain (joshsellsvirginia.com) or my new domain (joshsellsvirginia.yourkwagent.com). I am just baffled at the complexity of SEO and would really like some help and advise. Thanks! My site is http://www.JoshSellsVirginia.com

Comments (25)

Boston Condo Guy
Boston Condo Guy - Boston, MA

What many of these folks are getting at appears to be the idea that you need to chose one, and go with it (at least in the short term).  Barb brings up a very pertinent idea.  Additionally, by building up (content, backlinks, etc) a KW subdomain, are you really building up your brand...or someone else's?

Oct 26, 2008 06:29 AM
Josh Schlesselman
Long Realty - Tucson, AZ

Boston- I don't quite understand what your saying....are you saying that I should just be building up the KW site and not my old  301 forwarded domain???/

Oct 26, 2008 06:30 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I know you won't believe this but call GoDaddy.  I had a couple of questions about forwarding vs. 301 redirects and they helped me thru it no sweat.  No charge too.

Oct 26, 2008 06:32 AM
Shane OnullGorman
Eau Claire Realty, Inc. - Eau Claire, WI
Eau Claire Wisconsin, Real Estate Agent & Realtor- Buy or Sell

I would not foward it period. You need your own seperate domain. You will never see as much benefit using a subdomain as you would using your own. When you use domain masking google can and does get confused. I tried this myself and when I got my own domain instead of forwarding it things changed instantly.

Just see if you can use one of their templates or something? Then tweak it how you like it. Just definately dont waste all that time working on backlinks going to a subdomain thats a huge waste of your time and effort.

Oct 26, 2008 06:33 AM
Richard Barbee
Realty Executives Assoc - Knoxville, TN

This is a great post and response event.  Those with techno-saavy are goinig to win.  The Geek shall inherit the Earth !!!

Contrats to everyone on this post.  You've already way ahead!!

Oct 26, 2008 06:36 AM
Barb Van Stensel
Chicago, IL

Josh, KW has a similar site that is just as great as the sub-site.  What Boston is backing me up on is the fact that all your backlinks would be supporting KW and not your own brand.  What KW is about is branding you and creating that presence on the internet. 

You are smart Josh and so smart that you need to keep your thinking simple.  KISS.  Truly.  So, while KW has a great website for agents, the majority of my business doesn't come from the KW website but from my own website.  How could I betray KW and not be loyal, you might ask?  I am not betraying KW but I am loyal to the company.  There is a difference and that difference being "it's about you and not the company". 

On research performed with the websites connected to the mothership (the company website) it is generally a turnoff and you will only keep them at your site for maybe 4 seconds.  Why do they not stay longer even after you do all these great things and blah, blah, blah ...... because it's about the company (as the consumer looks at it) and not about them.  Consumers are judgmental and rightfully so as Realtos used to hold buyers "hostage" because we had the books and nothing was online.  People don't forget that and that technique, while not used by all, has not been forgotten.

Listen to what people are telling you here because they've been there and understand this.

Oct 26, 2008 06:37 AM
Josh Schlesselman
Long Realty - Tucson, AZ

Barb- Great reply, so you had mentioned that KW has an alternate site that is equal to the sub domain site? Where would I go to find out more on that? The KW.com site? How would this effect the domain name I currently have with Godaddy that is forwarded to my KW sub domain site? thanks again.

Oct 26, 2008 06:43 AM
Shane OnullGorman
Eau Claire Realty, Inc. - Eau Claire, WI
Eau Claire Wisconsin, Real Estate Agent & Realtor- Buy or Sell

I just know from experience that when my site was being forwarded it ranked nowhere in the search engines. The minute I put my site on my own domain I jumped up an incredible amount in the rankings. Google was seeing the forwarded domain as basically not being there while the one that I was trying to mask started showing up in results. It was definately not working the way I intended it.

If you put all that effort into SEO and then they changed their site structure and suddently your subdomain was moved. Guess what happens? POOF! All gone. No more SEO. Imagine how devastating that would be in 2 years or 5 or 10? A decade of SEO work in the toilet because they did a redesign.

Oct 26, 2008 06:45 AM
Shane OnullGorman
Eau Claire Realty, Inc. - Eau Claire, WI
Eau Claire Wisconsin, Real Estate Agent & Realtor- Buy or Sell

Josh I really think you need to build a site using the domain name you want. You will have to either see if they have a template or find a way to design one. But any amount of forwarding will kill your SEO potential.

Oct 26, 2008 06:46 AM
Mick Michaud
Distinctly Texas Lifestyle Properties, LLC Office:682/498-3107 - Granbury, TX
Your Texas Lifestyle is Here!

Josh,

If you have truly forwarded your domain to the KW subdomain, then there is only one website up and running.  You can't have back-links.  In order to have any links between sites, you have to have two sites. 

 

Its just like telling the PO to forward your mail to a new address.  Folks send to one, but it gets to you at another.  Forwarding is not linking.

I agree with most everyone's opinion regarding KW's site.  Set up your own so that it is yours, no matter where you go or which brokerage you work with.  Your' clients will always know its you and know how to find you, not chase you through different brokerages.

Keep your original site, then set up a small one on KW with a link to your main site.  Run the SEO on your main site.

Oct 26, 2008 06:54 AM
Josh Schlesselman
Long Realty - Tucson, AZ

Eau- Great post, I will start looking around for different templates. Thanks!

Oct 26, 2008 06:54 AM
Shane OnullGorman
Eau Claire Realty, Inc. - Eau Claire, WI
Eau Claire Wisconsin, Real Estate Agent & Realtor- Buy or Sell

You can of course not wait at all. There is nothign stopping you from building up backlinks right now. I was building mine before my site was up. You lay down the roads and when the building is there the roads are there as well (not the best analogy lol) I would focus on getting a GREAT domain name and then start linking to it however you do. Then when the site is up you are ready to go.

Oct 26, 2008 07:08 AM
Josh Schlesselman
Long Realty - Tucson, AZ

Mike- Maybe I misspoke about the linking. I have been getting backlinks for my JoshSellsVirginia.com domain (which is forwarded to my KW subdomain) and I was wondering if that would affect my PR for the KW site.......can you make sense of that?

Oct 26, 2008 07:17 AM
Mick Michaud
Distinctly Texas Lifestyle Properties, LLC Office:682/498-3107 - Granbury, TX
Your Texas Lifestyle is Here!

Ok, let me diagram what I think you have going on:

 

backlinks from   Original Site:                             KW site

other sites

*.com     ---->  JoshSellsVirginia.com  ==>  agent.kw.com

               ^                                             ^

            links                                        forward

 

If this makes sense as a character based diagram, then the SEO is taking place on agent.kw.com unless it is masked to only look like JoshSells.  

Take off the forwarding to the KW site, set up JoshSells as your main site and then link from the KW site to your site.  This further enhances your SEO.

Any discenting opinions or clarifications are welcome.

We all know how SEO is such a cut and dried discipline. :-)

 

 

 

Oct 26, 2008 07:26 AM
Shane OnullGorman
Eau Claire Realty, Inc. - Eau Claire, WI
Eau Claire Wisconsin, Real Estate Agent & Realtor- Buy or Sell

What Mike drew is what I was trying to say lol. With forwarding there is no way to really enhance your target site. Its best to just do what he is saying and target your godaddy domain.

Oct 26, 2008 07:37 AM
Josh Schlesselman
Long Realty - Tucson, AZ

Mike- Excellent! So what you are saying is that I should just build another site as EAU had mentioned and then once the new site is up, take off the forwarding to KW and link the KW to my new site?

Based upon that diagram, your saying that with the reciprocal links that I have now on the JoshSellsVirginia domain don't transfer to the KW domain?

Thanks for helping!

Oct 26, 2008 08:12 AM
Mick Michaud
Distinctly Texas Lifestyle Properties, LLC Office:682/498-3107 - Granbury, TX
Your Texas Lifestyle is Here!

The links will go to the KW site via the forward as you have it set up now.  The benefit we're all talking about is for your own domain name.  It is better to have your own site with links for your brokerage site.  The brokerage site can have all their standard canned stuff, then you have a link from there to your "real" site.  Your customers will always be able to find you, regardless of the brokerage you're with.

Shane (Eau) and others can either verify this or correct my interpretation.

Oct 26, 2008 08:23 AM
Josh Schlesselman
Long Realty - Tucson, AZ

Excellent, thanks again!

Oct 26, 2008 08:29 AM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

Any "company" website is just that -- a company website. Building ones own unique and personally "branded" website will end up serving them much better in the long run. Our 2 cents.

Oct 26, 2008 06:09 PM
Josh Schlesselman
Long Realty - Tucson, AZ

Just to let everyone know , I really appreciate all your comments and helping me come to the decision that I needed a stand alone site. I took all your advice and have got a new site up and running and was hoping that I could get some constructive critisism on your thoughts. My site is JoshSellsVirginia.com. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

Nov 03, 2008 02:55 AM