The factors that can influence a buyer as to whether they ultimately end up buying a property are daunting.  While numerous "generalities" can be made as to how best to "present" your property for sale, there will always be elements----or reactions to elements----that can not be predicted or foreseen. 

     At a recent condo inspection I snapped the following picture of the tile entryway into the building.  I have shown this picture to several people since and received an almost "universal" negative reaction. 

swastika 

      There are probably people that would not buy a property with this symbol on it----thinking it to be the Nazi version of the Swastika.  The truth is that the arms point the wrong way for the "typical" Nazi version; and, countless religions, since the beginnings of Sanskrit (1500 BC), have used this symbol regardless of the way the arms point----and with other variations as well. 

     The one pictured was installed during or slightly after World War I,----so no "evil" intentions were likely implied or intended.

     When I saw it, I know I reacted negatively (kept to myself however).  I actually had to go home and look it up on Wikipedia to see what I might be missing about it.  It seemed odd to me that this symbol would not have been "erased" or re-done in all these years----or turned into some other symbol.  The four corners of this entryway each had a different symbol----none evoked the feelings that this one did.

     Some symbols are so powerful that, even when they turn out to NOT be what we thought they were, we can still have a "negative" response to them.  Some of these negative responses seem almost beyond our control.  Some only have meaning in the context of the whole picture-----like the symbol in this next picture----

Spider marks 

 

 

----as when seen----

 

----on the spider itself.

 

 

 

 

spider 

 

     Fierce and dangerous critters of all types often have symbols that have come to elicit specific responses.  Often this is a "good" thing, and can actually help keep us alive.

     I am curious how the stagers here on ActiveRain would stage around something like this----not the spider----he could be set free, left alone, or put on a leash.

Charles Buell  

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26 Comments on The power of symbols----some make more "noise" than others.

OCT
28
2008
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I'm curious, what were the symbols in the other corners of the room?   I'm also curious to know what the prospective buyer thought upon seeing the symbol!

10:39am • #1
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Those details on the spider are really beautiful. No one ever gets close enough to see that...they run and scream.

10:41am • #2

Charles,

Perhaps the stagers would move that heavy looking table over it? It just amazes me how some people "personalize" their homes with symbols...We have a house down the street that has a symbol over their front picture window...Looks Greek...but I saw it on my morning walk...and now I'm curious...I'll have to look it up...

Thanks for the post...and the photos. Have a Great Day!

10:43am • #3
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I tried to take a picture of a spider weaving a web on my back porch and failed.  I don't know if you took this one but it is beautiful....even though spiders are taken as "ugly".  Nice blog.

10:44am • #4
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You are so right...  Harmless as some things are, to some they are offensive... If I owned that home I would replace at least that one tile to help sell the place... Thanks for sharing... Diane

10:44am • #5
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Jeannie, one was a flower----I don't remember the other two.  My buyer seemed OK with it.

Michael, I agree----I think the markings are incredible.

Rebecca, I think that is the point I want to make----how do we know what is "personalized" in the context of history?

10:45am • #6
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Barbara, thanks and yes I took the pictures

Diane, this one was in the entry of a condo building----a little more difficult for any one owner to change.  The building used to be an apartment building.

10:48am • #7

Interesting conversation pieces!  For me, the Nazi-looking one would have to go.  I enjoyed your post!  :)

11:04am • #8
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Darla, I just found it so fascinating that it has been allowed to stay all these years.

11:12am • #9
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I am guessing it was a symbol of friendship, I have seen it in quilts for the same time period.  cw

3:04pm • #10
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Doesn't matter what the symbol really means, it's the perception that counts. Most people won't take the time to search out what it means.

5:34pm • #11

Hey Guys, I have seen this symbol in many different pictures going both ways in an ancient  historical context.  I have seen it on Aegean pottery, Greek pottery,  I have seen the symbol in India as it is commonly recognized as a religiously significant symbol.  The symbol I belief had Aryan origins and as the Aryan culture spread some of their aspects spread as well (The Nazis aryan master race ideology is what likely drew them to the swastika).  Several aspects come to mind when I think about social memory progressing beyond historical context.

   They surveyed people post JFK assassination regarding whether they voted for JFK or Nixon and they found that an immpossibly large portion of the population had remembered voting for JFK that in actuality didnt.

I talk to alot of my students and one of the biggest misconceptions that my kids have is that Iraq was behind thew twin towers attack.

A lot of my students throw around the N-word like it is no big deal. But that word is highly inflammatory.

History is interpitive. It is often written by the victors and because of this many other peoples histories are left untold (in some cases they are pushed aside and isolated pockets of time are spent giving attention to these groups).  I think you can take just about any main stream symbol and look it up and find a context that you were not expecting because so many symbols come from an older time.

Word meanings change

Symbolic meanings change.

even change changes.

 

It would be difficult enough if we could all remember the same history (in a philosophical sense we all have different histories) but it becomes logistically much more difficult when we apply meaning over previous understanding and meaning.  Whew! O.K. I'm done ranting...   Is it just me or is active rain buggy (programming buggy not dad's spider buggy) today?

Klee B. Patel
5:44pm • #12

Hi Charles, my first thought was more Aztec, but since you mentioned it, yep it could definitely give someone the wrong idea. 

Very interesting ideas Klee.

6:55pm • #13
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I also think it could be more Aztec, like Robyn said. I think we had Aztec wall hangings in my basement when I was growing up. It reminds me of that.  Klee has an interesting point too.  Great pictures, thanks for sharing.

7:33pm • #14
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Cheryl W, it had very favorable meanings in ancient history.

Sharon, you are so right----even things with originally good meanings can be so corrupted as to kill them.

Klee, very well put---thanks for adding all that.

Robyn & Jen, it was a common symbol of ancient America.  In fact in more recent times, according to Wikipedia, The shoulder patch of the 45th Infantry Division, a National Guard unit from the Southwestern US, was originally a yellow swastika on a red diamond, in the context of a religious/mystical symbol of the Native American tribes of that region. (1930's)

7:48pm • #15
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Charlie,

When I visited Korea a few years ago there were many of these in shop windows. Hitler made it bad and people do not know enough about it to figure out which way the legs go.

8:54pm • #16
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----- edited comments ------

Apparently my comments disappeared randomly but were not deleted.  I wanted to apologize for saying they were.  Charles contacted me and let me know that he didn't delete them.

My original comments - the missing one - stated that I didn't think the symbol was really all that noticable given its apparent location and that with the arms reversed, the coloration of the area, etc that it wasn't a big deal. 

The biggest offense in the photo above, as far as staging is concerned, is the garbage can..... that's my take anyway...

Thanks again Charles for the email...  

9:03pm • #17

acitve rain is buggy today - had it happen 3 times - once trying to post - twice trying to upload photos.

Charles - really good post - it's amazing how symbols can affect our perception of things.  Also, how things can impact how we feel about our surroundings and ourselves.  With staging - I talk to all of my clients about removing things that can influence prospective buyers such as political, religious or other types of controversial items.  These can negatively impact someone looking at a house if they are not in agreement with the perceived philosophy of the seller.  Bill, my husband - the inspector, takes interesting photos all the time for us to look at but he's never seen one like this.

Here's our spider photo - taken at our house - Bill took it facing the front door - the reflection of the houses in the storm door was very cool - this is Stella - she lived on our front porch and in our shrubs for a whole season making beautiful webs.  Our daughter was enchanted and named her.

stella

9:16pm • #18
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My family deals in junk. We often see this swastika symbol on brass items from India.

Here is a website that details the higher meaning of the swastika. I understand the illogic of keeping the swastika in a house for sale, but symbols only have power to revolt if you only accept a singular viewpoint of the symbol in question.

Depending on preconceived notions,

Is our President is a Satanist?

Or Just Proud of his Favorite Football Team?

 

And versions of this ancient stone carving of an older woman doing lewd things to herself (called a sheela na gig) can be seen on churches all over Europe.

What seemingly makes NO sense to today's congregations, made perfect sense to ones who placed them there.

 

 What something is changes, due to age, culture,

religion, era, location, and education.

 

I wonder what the interpretation of this symbol will be 1000 years from now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Michelle

9:27pm • #19
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The symbol on the floor would have been for good luck. Many people do not know the original meaning of the symbol. Just like many people see the confederate flag as negative.

Sean Allen

10:34pm • #20
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Steve, I understand that there are areas where its use is still common.

Melissa, come back, come back----I have no clue what you are talking about.  I have never, ever deleted anyone's post from my blog.

Liz, that is one cool spider---thanks

Michelle, so true.  This gets me to the point where we just need to be non-judgmental even when it doesn't "feel" logical.

Sean, too true

10:41pm • #21
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Charles, I caught the first one as going the wrong direction but the spider was a complete surprise...

11:13pm • #22
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Charles- You know I adore you, but I cannot visit your posts if you insist on showing photos of spiders. In fact, I feel SO strongly about them, I would prefer a house full of swastikas (or roosters) than to have ONE of those guys!

11:20pm • #23
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Paul---it is a pretty cool pattern isn't it?

Elaine, well I certainly don't want to keep you from visiting----how about a warning ahead of time from now on?  (Like I will be able to remember:)

11:53pm • #24
OCT
29
2008
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Oh my thought you were talking about the trash can for a minute, terrible staging faux pax...but the other is not thrilling either as whether correct or not, could be misconstrued.  Thanks for the post.

3:28am • #25
OCT
30
2008
379,174 Points 23 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Terrylynn---maybe we should just slide the trash can or the seat over a few inches:)

5:44pm • #26

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