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Our Tax system, A simplified explanation:

Reblogger Lisa Friedman
Real Estate Agent with Alliance Realtors

My good friend Rob Rauf posted a poignant parable about the redistribution of our tax dollars which I am proudly re-blogging.  If you comment on my post here, please also go here to add the same comment to Rob's blog.  He made this post earlier today, had several comments on it, then it disappeared???

Original content by Robert Rauf NMLS 248937

This is a RE-Post of a blog that got lost some how ...

Best explanation to share with your friends, who may not
understand this complex principle.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all
ten  comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it
would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the
arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce
the cost of your daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just
$80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so
the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But
what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they
divide
the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted
that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would
each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested
that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same
amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to
compare their savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20 declared the sixth man. He pointed
to the tenth man, 'but he got $10!'

'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar,
too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'

'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back
when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the
tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers
without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered
something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them
for even half of the bill!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is
how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the
most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for
being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat
friendlier.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

This was reported to be from: David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics, University of Georgia. so I can not take full credit for it

real estate real estate
Providence, RI

I understand this. It is a little over-simplified but got the points explained well. The only hole is that how the money was made of the wealthy people. If it comes from fair play, it is ok.

Oct 31, 2008 02:43 AM
Bo Hussung
Bell Title /Triserv LLC - Nashvle, TN

Ahhh, Lisa if it was only that simple (haha). We have the most complex tax code in the world, it is not fair and it is definitely skewed to the highest earners. The fact is that most of the highest 1 or 2% pay absolutely no taxes. The loopholes in the code allow for way too many "tax shelters" like, off shore accounts, off balance sheet assets,  where they simply are exempt from tax. On a corporate level it is much different. Nonetheless, I get the whole concept of trickle down to benefit the lower wage earners. The only problem is that the system is a too easy to manipulate and the only way that can be done is to pay someone lots of money to do. The average wage earner simpy does not have the resources to navigate the code.

I think a flat tax on goods and services is equitable and easy to admisiter and understand. You pay tax on what you spend, not the other way around.

Thats my .02 cents, oh make that $5.00 worth :)

Bo

Oct 31, 2008 03:34 AM
Michael Merino
Merino's Home Inspection & Education Inc. - Oak Forest, IL
Orland Park Ill Home Inspector

I like the flat tax idea, there is also a fair tax theory that I like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax. Some say that the constitution only allows for taxing through a sales tax, but I do not know how true that is. I do agree we need a better system.

Oct 31, 2008 11:07 AM
Lisa Friedman
Alliance Realtors - Bedminster, NJ
Central New Jersey Real Estate

In my opinion, If they work hard enough and if they are smart enough to figure out the tax shelters, and willing to pay for the knowledge to find them, then let them have them :)

Oct 31, 2008 11:25 AM