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Alternative Green Developments – Any ideas?

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Real Estate Agent with Eco-Steward Realty

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I am currently involved in working with an investor who is looking to develop some property close to Asheville, North Carolina. The property can range anywhere from 3 -30 acres with frontage on a major highway, three quarters a mile away from Interstate 40, and a half mile away from the Blue Ridge Parkway. Downtown Asheville  is about 10 minutes away with the Biltmore Estates  approximately the same distance. The state raod that it is on has also ben designated a scenic byway by the state of North Carolina. The property is somewhat rolling close to the state road, getting steeper the deeper you go back.  Height restrictions will probably limit any structures to 3 to 4 stories. There are also three old (circa 1930's) log cabins on the property 2 in very good shape, a third that needs some TLC. The price at this point is highly negotiable but most likely will demand that some sort of intensive development occur on the site.   

The smaller acreage sections could be used to build a hotel and retail shops and a restaurant. Anyone know of any developers working on Green Hotels? There are hotels participating in an Green Hotel Association but these seem to be existing structures that are changing they way they do business but reducing energy and water consumption and using green products.

We would also consider a green multi-family condo development with more acreage, setting aside at least half the land  in a conservation easement , while building hiking trails and perhaps using the log cabins as community meeting or recreation areas. These would have to be high end condos though in order for the numbers to work.          

So does anyone have any other ideas about other different types of Green Eco-developments? I have not done an extensive Internet search yet, but my first tries have not borne any fruit. I have heard of Eco-Spa complexes but that's about it. So what other kind of green sustainable developments has anyone heard about that would meet the requirements of an intensive development site which this one will be no matter how many acres we choose to develop. It would just be nice to not have to do another run of the mill hotel/retail/restaurant development but rather something that has Alternative Green Development written all over it.  The Asheville market is ripe for this type of product. Any other Green development ideas floating around out there? 

 

   **Picture from the book The Art of Natural Building: Design, Construction, Resources, by Joesph Kennedy

Luke Constantino
Brooklyn/Manhattan Real Estate - Brooklyn, NY
Residential/Commercial Real Estate Brooklyn NY

Wow... I live in NYC...

You got me on this one Bill!!!

Apr 15, 2007 11:31 PM
Danny Smith
DISCOVER TEXAS HOMES - Round Rock, TX
Great Pic..it looks like something out of Ireland! Austin has begin building green community's. The thing I don't like is the roads within them. They seem to try and lock the flow of traffic up in the community's by putting various sizes of traffic circles in them. I know they are trying to slow traffic down. But the effect is gridlock in and out of the community's.
Apr 15, 2007 11:41 PM
Bill Westel
Eco-Steward Realty - Asheville, NC
ECO

Hi Danny:

I have heard about these things called roundabouts. They are suppose to help traffic flow, but folks have to learn how to use them. Thats just what I picked up from a recent conservation. Here is a link: http://www.roundaboutsusa.com/design.htmlLet me know what you think. So, there are any other creative green developments going on in Austin? I have always heard that was a great city, just have not gotten round to visiting.   

Apr 16, 2007 12:53 AM
Bill Westel
Eco-Steward Realty - Asheville, NC
ECO

Luke: Surely in NYC there has to be something green, new and interesting ( am I sounding a bit desperate?). 

Jon: The ICF's are a good idea to keep in mind regardless of the type of development. With energy costs expected to keep going up, payback may be even quicker than 10 years.  

Apr 16, 2007 12:57 AM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

I have stayed at the Maho Bay Resort in the US Virgin Islands and my daughter participated in their off season worker program a few years ago.  In Virginia we have a number of eco-communities under development but most of them are housing only and don't contain any shops/hotels as part of the plans. 

Just to name a few:

 I'm sure there are more but those are the ones that I am familiar with.

Apr 16, 2007 01:01 AM
Bill Westel
Eco-Steward Realty - Asheville, NC
ECO
Thanks Cindy. I don't have time right now to check all the links out, but the Blueberry Hill definitely looked interesting.  
Apr 16, 2007 01:14 AM
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Bill~

There's the mixed use developmentidea... combined with a particular historical area of a city, this could be a hot attractor! My Grandpa came form Saginaw, MI..so we keep track of what's happening there..and eco-development is IT in Saginaw!

"The Economic Development Department assists the citizens of Saginaw to shape the city's future, based on a shared community vision. The department is responsible for developing and implementing the Comprehensive Plan, assisting in zoning cases, Board of Adjustment cases, plats, development proposals, site plans, and all related requests, administering zoning regulations and changes, developing zoning ordinances, platting subdivisions, and coordinating historic preservation."

Of course, Asheville is THE place to be for this kind of action. We are involved in a Smart Growth Plan that rocks!  In fact, JOE MINICOZZI  will be doing a presentation at our real estate office this week....Joe is a superior urban designer/planner and a person I would like to spotlight in my column at NLJ...  Here is his main project here in Asheville..one that need MUCH public support! http://www.ashevilledesigncenter.org/

The goals of the project are to engage citizens and local governments to be part of the design process and help:

· Design a signature bridge that crosses the French Broad River

· Develop a multi-disciplined team to find the best design impact for the Roadway and surrounding land
· Maximize transportation options for residents
· Create neighborhoods within a ten-minute walk to the existing downtown that are sustainable in design and use

· Develop clear graphics and 3D models to help citizens visualize the full potential of the site

Love this conversation!

Apr 16, 2007 02:40 AM
Bill Westel
Eco-Steward Realty - Asheville, NC
ECO
Thanks Janeanne, that was a whole blog in and of itself! I will check out JOE MINICOZZI .
Apr 16, 2007 03:03 AM
Gary Smith
Agent Marketing Today - Commerce Township, MI
Apr 16, 2007 12:53 PM
Bill Westel
Eco-Steward Realty - Asheville, NC
ECO
Thanks Gary. The first site did have a variety of green projects in its database, none that would fit this piece of property though. I do have another idea though, and will go into detail in next blog.  
Apr 17, 2007 01:28 PM