There is no exuse for Proposition 8 to even be on the ballot in California since discrimination is illegal. I thought I would share one of the wedding stories I have had the pleasure of posting to a community center website.  Vote No on Prop 8.

Tara and Alix, married 20 June 2008

The first time we met, we both thought “she’s the one!” – then we didn’t see each other again for three months.  The second time we met, at a singles’ brunch, we talked for over 14 hours, until the owner of the restaurant where we had dinner tiptoed into the dining room to turn out the lights.  The place had been closed for almost an hour.

That was in 2001, in Kentucky.  We moved in together in 2002, and after seeing the San Francisco weddings on CNN, we decided to have a wedding of our own, to affirm our commitment publicly, in June 2005.  We didn’t have much money, so we made everything ourselves, and had an exhausting but wonderful day with our family and friends.  We were really touched by how many straight friends and family shared our joy that day, in a state that had passed an anti-gay-marriage constitutional amendment only seven months before.  Since we didn’t need a licensed minister, the wedding was performed by the dear friend who had introduced us that very first day.  And instead of a marriage license from the state, we made our own document that was signed by everyone at the wedding, affirming that they considered us married.

Shortly after our wedding, Alix’s career brought us to California.  We had so many more rights and protections in California than we had had in Kentucky, that we certainly didn’t feel deprived.  But when the State Supreme Court announced its decision on May 15, we finally felt like “full” citizens, with ALL of the same rights as straight Californians.  On Friday, June 20, we were married “under the laws of the State of California!,” as our delighted officiant proclaimed.  Our witnesses were two straight friends, one of whom brought her infant son and got teary when she recalled the 2004 San Francisco marriages being annulled, fearing that her children would never see equal marriage rights.

Being legally married has brought a lot of subtle but important changes.  The biggest is that we now legally have the same last name, for the cost of the marriage license (about $160, versus $640 for two legal name-change orders).  We had wills before, but it’s reassuring to know that we have more protection for our home and other joint property as a legally-married couple.  And, as we try to start a family, it’s important to us that our kids know their moms are married.  We just want the same protection for our family that straight couples have always had for theirs.

 
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34 Comments on Californians Vote NO on Prop 8. Wedding story.

NOV
01
2008

I all ready voted no

3:23pm • #1
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Thank you Sindee!  I did too.

3:25pm • #2
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Chris, if I had the chance to vote in CA I would vote no.  I wish that people would stop minding everyone else's business and worry about what is going on in their own homes.  Thanks for bringing this up.

3:32pm • #3

Chris: I hope that California keeps marriage equality for all. We are quite fortunate that this type of hate was kept off of the ballot in Massachusetts this year. We fully expect the right-wing to launch another attack on families in 2012. As I heard one person on some news program say that whichever side loses, they will keep on fighting. 

The shame is that the California Legislature voted for marriage equality, but the Governator did not sign it into law, even though he supports it. What a crock.

3:38pm • #4
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Susan - I sure wish the same thing!  Thank you!

Scott - I am disgusted at this point, I can't believe it's on the ballot and I can't believe there are so many bigots in California. 

4:55pm • #5
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Chris we have Prop 2 which basically says the same thing.  I would think in this day and age, what with all the global crisis that keep hitting one after another, people would spend their time more constructively.  But then there are some people who just love sticking their noses in other people's business.  I've found the ones who protest the loudest are usually the ones most guilty, i.e. Ted Haggard et al.  BTW I voted no on Prop 2, of course!

8:37pm • #6
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Chris, personally I think marriage should be between two people that love each other. I am so against the fact that church and state are not 2 separate entities.

it reminds me of when women could not vote and men walked around like they controlled it all. If straight people are so against others being able to marry, then maybe they should consider keeping marriage a little more sacred. I wonder if they have checked the divorce rate lately.

Marriage is not sacred when a judge can grant a divorce on almost any ground.

If I remember correctly, the marriage ceremony has a verse in it that says "Till Death Do Us Part".

8:40pm • #7
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Chris, I don't understand why it isn't legal in ALL states...it actually saddens me that so many people are not afforded the same benefits as a more "traditional" couple are.

8:48pm • #8
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Terry - I voted no on prop 8 of course!  But you knew that.  (I'm glad you voted, by the way.) I'm just astounded at the amount of money this ridiculous yes on 8 campaign has spent trying to deny equal rights when there are people actually starving.  It's insane.

Danny - I am thinking when this is finally all over, these people will look like the KKK do to us now.  Of course women should have equal rights.  Of course people of color should have equal rights.  That's a big DUH to us now.  I look forward to the day when homosexuals having equal rights is a big DUH to everyone.  It's ridiculous.

Carole - It saddens me as well, and I absolutely cannot understand it.  It is mind boggling to me that anyone really thinks that way.  The lies that have been used in their campaign are astounding as well and I can't believe anyone would fall for them.

10:25pm • #9
NOV
02
2008
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Chris - Thank you for your post and I think people should be able to marry anyone they want and stop controlling peoples lives like the government have been doing for to long.

1:32am • #10
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                                                             This ones for you Chris, great job!    Featured!

1:36am • #11
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Yeah Chris, if those people would take all the money they spend trying to convince the rest of us, the  majority, that their mis-guided attempt to make a minority less than "human", and put it to good use like oh say, feeding hungry children, the world would be, maybe like the place they say they want it to be.  I saw a sign today about our Prop 2 which said "NO on Prop2 - Protect Our Children"  BARF!

9:08pm • #12
NOV
03
2008
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Robert - Thank you for the feature!  I totally agree - keep the government out of our lives!

Terry - No kidding, protect them from what?  Gay people don't disappear just because you discriminate against them.  They're still here!  People are just nuts.

11:14am • #13
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Chris -

Having two very dear gay male friends (over 30 years!), it just makes me soooo sad when I see the Yes on 8 groups on the corner.  I can only imagine how dejected gays must feel.  I just try and imagine when African Americans were treated unequally as human beings - what a devastating feeling!   It is just heartbreaking to think that mankind can treat others as though they are inferior based on their sexuality (or color, or gender, etc.).

I urge all to check out the L.A.Times Editorial from Sunday, Nov. 2.  with their opinion of Prop. 8.  It is so eloquent. www.latimes.com

NO ON HATE - NO ON 8!

2:36pm • #14
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Thank you Patti - I was just discussing that with my mother this morning... I can't imagine someone saying, "No, women should not be allowed to vote because..." or "No, black people are not equal because..."  Someday these people will look just as insane in history.

NO ON HATE - NO ON 8! Is right!

2:38pm • #15
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Chris - I hope your posts are helping people to vote NO on 8!

3:08pm • #16
NOV
04
2008
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Chris - I am optimistic that in California, people will indeed vote against hate and discrimination! I am not so sure about my state:-(
There will some day have to be an actual hard line of separation of church and state for this country to be the democracy it wishes to be viewed as.  Hopefully if not us, our kids will make it happen.

12:59pm • #18
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I'm really hoping so, Inna, as I will be pretty angry if it goes the other way and may have a hard time being nice.  

I do hope we make the separation of church and state happen for our kids, so they can concentrate on something else!

1:14pm • #19
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Inna - love the new name!!! :)

Chris - I voted no on two for all the reasons stated. Gay people should have the same right to be as miserable as the rest of us!! JUST JOKING!!!!!!!!! I certainly am not joking however when I say that gay and lesbian people should have the right to marry if that is what they choose to do.

Unlike Inna however, I feel CA will pass 8 and Florida will reject 2. We will see.

1:24pm • #20
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Simon - I agree with your joke, but I don't suggest you say that in front of your wife!  I am hoping they both get rejected. 

1:39pm • #21

Simon: I hope that it fails in both states. Thank you for your post. It means a lot to me.

7:47pm • #22
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Dear Chris,

I am so glad your two were able to get married and that the state was not able to take that away. I have helped non married partners find a RE attorney and get all the paperwork together to protect their "joint" assets and its a hassle. Thank goodness the people of CA prevailed and you are protected! Congratulations!!

Betina

11:33pm • #23
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Scott - still waiting to find out about CA, but Florida not so good.  : (

Hi Betina - It's not my story, but I am very happy for the women who found love and happiness.  I just cannot even understand why we were allowed to vote to discriminate.  I haven't found the result online yet, but I sincerely hope you are right!

11:36pm • #24
NOV
05
2008
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Sadly Chris, Prop 2 here in FL passed.  Fortunately Colorado's Prop that would define the EXACT moment life begins failed resoundingly!  And your farm animal Prop passed, score one for the animals.  Our version passed 6 years ago, closed down the only two pig farms in the state.  Woo hoo!  But we did get our BIG win, and Florida went BLUE!  YES-WE-CAN!  YES-WE-CAN!  YES-WE-CAN!

9:02am • #25
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Terry - I was so happy for you when Florida went blue!  I knew you would be celebrating.

I'm pretty depressed about our Prop 8.  www.noonprop8.org hasn't called it yet, they are waiting for every last vote I think.

It is good for our farm animals!  Rhiannon was quite excited last night, this is the first election she's really thought about or realized what was going on.  She did quite a dance when Obama won.

1:18pm • #26
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Chris, there were so many "kids" interested in this election.  The trick or treaters all said "yea Obama" when they came to my door, probably because of my yard sign.  But they are aware.  My 10 year old granddaughter was elated and looking forward to the announcement of the election results at her school, where they had a mock election yesterday.  I hope the parents and the media can keep up the momentum.  It gives them a few years headstart on having to think, participate, and VOTE!

I was elated to hear your farm animals will no longer suffer and die just because people want to eat them.  Its not a perfect solution but will definitely make their lives less depressing.

2:18pm • #27
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They did a vote in Rhiannon's class & Obama won 20 to 10.

I am happy about the farm animals too.  I told Rhiannon's friend, Amelia, Yes on 2.  She said why, I said to protect farm animals from abuse.  She asked how they were abused & I said I don't want to tell you, it's too gross.  So she made her mom vote yes on 2 for me.

 

2:25pm • #28
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Chris, we really need to listen to  our children more.  They are not yet tainted!

9:04pm • #29
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Terry I agree totally.  Some really interesting information comes from the kids. 

9:06pm • #30
NOV
06
2008
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Thanks for the wedding story. Althought it looks like we lost this round, as the staunch Republican Mayor of San Diego said yesterday, "It was 62% in 2000 and down to 52% in 2008. Give us another 4-8 years and we'll turn it around." Yep. You heard him correctly. His daughter is a lesbian in a long-term relationship.

I suspect that the U.S. Supreme Court will be involved before then with marriage now fully legal in Massachusetts and Connecticut. All it will take is a gay married couple from Massachusetts to move to California and sue for marriage rights, at which time the Supreme Court will have to decide if there is any merit to the full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution.

As we saw with slavery, inter-racial marriage, inter-religion marriage, and women's right to vote, the U.S. Constitution trumps state constitutions. It just takes the Supreme Court to bring the law of the land to all 50 states.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome is probably distressed that his words were used out of context by the religious political extremist fanatics, but ultimately he will be proven correct: "It's coming whether you like it or not."

12:45am • #31
NOV
23
2008
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Chris - I am so tired of the government trying to control peoples lives, it's really sad for couples that are in love and want everyone to know it.

1:52pm • #32
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Russel - Sorry for the delay, I just read your comment.  You are correct, it will happen, it just frustrates me that it is taking so long.  I am sure Gavin Newsome was quite annoyed with that.  He may not do everything right, but I still really like that guy.

Robert - ME TOO!  It is sad, and just plain wrong.

2:00pm • #33
NOV
24
2008

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