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Florida Property Tax Update - Republican Bill Passes in the House

By
Real Estate Agent with THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct

Breaking News from the SunSentinel.com regarding the Florida Property Tax resolutions are still not addressing the immediate needs of those hardest hurt by the high cost of property taxes throughout the state.

 

 

As the Republicans control the Florida House, there was little doubt that their bill would get the majority.

Unfortunately, the "Time is of the Essense" clause of Real Estate did not seem to compel these Florida Law Makers to affect a change any sooner than 2009 if this becomes a true Amendment to the Florida Constitution. 

The Florida House, in its infinite wisdom has proposed the Florida Tax Bill go on the ballot in the 2008 elections if it gets passed by the State Senate... which it probably will as they're a Republican Majority as well.

The Republican Bill centers around the now notorious Property Tax for Sales Tax Swap that Art Blanchet focused a post on... the actual impact of this PHASE of the Tax bills in session would cut $25 to $35 Billion from the State revenues over the first five years.... and this is even with the proposed sales tax increase!

The article in the SunSentinel.com noted that this Amendment would officially make Florida the ONLY State with no Property Tax AND no State Income Tax!.... but it would also be the State with the highest Sales Tax!

The other bills in session? (HB=House Bill)

  • HB7001 - would roll back property taxes to their 2000-2001 levels and cap them.  This bill passed unanimously.
    This would have a dramatic effect on the ability of people to upgrade from a starter home to a family home.
  • HB261this one affects Nick M The Appraiser ... it modifies assessment practices. 
    In a prior post I mentioned the feud between the Palm Beach County and Broward County appraisors over assessing property "As Developed" the Broward County Stand vs "Potential Use" or Highest and Best Use as the Palm Beach County Stand.  Obviously assessing a house for its current usage rather than future (potential) usage will mean that the property is valued more fairly.  The problem really lies with lower income areas where eminent domain is an issue.  A property that houses Section 8 might be in the Path of Progress and all of a sudden the people can't afford to hold the property and rent it out because taxes are too high.  The property is still worth what it is worth but all of a sudden the land is worth a fortune.
  • HB1483 - this limits local governments abilities to increase taxes.  This is in reaction to several municipalities with add-ons to the main city or county taxes. 
    There are several municipalities (like Greenacres) which are more highly taxed than areas just 1-2 blocks away!  This is an unfair practice and creates undue financial strain on property owners in those areas.

All four of these measures go to the State Senate next...

But that's not the end of it!

The State Senate is voting on Friday on its own plan.  It would not be as sweeping as the House bill as it would only save $12.3 Billion in its first five years.  The plan would roll back taxes to their 2003-2004 levels instead of all the way to 2000-2001.

Now... here's where it gets really interesting. 

Bills are passed - Amendments are elected....

HB7001 could be immediate... but if voters in 2008 decide they like the forthcoming Amendment better than the bill, they can vote the Amendment in, which would immediately supercede the bill!  So if the Senate Plan passes as an Amendment, then the tax roll back would be defeated.

Getting back to Sales Tax... The immediate Sales Tax hike would be 1% going towards schools.  Then local governments would have the option of raising it another 1-1.5% depending on their needs.  The highest Sales Tax would be is 8.5%.

Now... I wonder how this will play out in the Senate on Friday!

The really interesting part is that the Democrats have the more sweeping ideas and favor a larger cut in taxes... The Republicans a smaller... but Republican Governor Charlie Crist has not weighed in officially... but sources have quoted him as saying "The Bigger the Better" (paraphrase)


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Art Blanchet
On the Outside Lookin' In - Sebastian, FL
Stranger in a Warm Land
Way to Go David!  Keep it coming.
Apr 18, 2007 04:36 PM
Danny Smith
DISCOVER TEXAS HOMES - Round Rock, TX
David, a very informative Post. What is your take on no property taxes/state income tax vs the sales tax?
Apr 19, 2007 12:03 AM
Matthew J Blum - (retired from the business)
Palm Beach Gardens, FL
David what a great post.  It will be very interesting to see where Charlie Christ falls on this issue.  Since he ran as a Republican and followed on Bush's coat tails.  Then once he is in office he clean house of all of the old guard.  I think.... (does'nt happen to often) that Christ early in his career was a democrat.
Apr 19, 2007 01:48 AM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!

Good question...

I'm on the fence right now

1... I could use a break.  The middle income homeowners are suffering the most because this is the group that is getting hit hardest with the property tax dilemma.  Many in the lower income category are renters and the ones that are homeowners are in properties that are not getting hit as hard - while they're still suffering nonetheless.  I think that something has to control the property taxes

2... I think that the Florida governments are spending an awful amount of money that could be used more efficiently and effectively... while it is of tiny consequence, the State House and Senate and even the Governor aren't offering pay cuts to help even as just a sign of solidarity.  Neither are the city councilmen and women... neither are any of the other elected officials.  But they were high on the hog when property values were skyrocketing and they had more money than they knew how to deal with for their budgets.  If they were to just cut the fat from their budgets, I think that this would even out a bit and let the state afford the cuts more easily.  There are things that have to be put in the forefront like schools, hospitals, security, libraries... and then other projects need to be put on a more pressing and competitive bid system so that the costs are kept down

3... Development... not every development needs or deserves tax incentives... period... if property values were correct then this would be less of an issue.  Developers for Scripps obviously needed tax incentives to move to Palm Beach County because the land was so expensive thanks to Mr. Gary Nikolits, County Appraiser.  His Potential Use style of assessment hiked up land prices... and this was a mistake that carried over to the citizens who believed his way was right and that their homes are worth far more than they really are.

4... Sales Tax... I'm not sure that the effect will be exactly what the state intended.  8.5% will sell more cars in Georgia.  I don't look forward to my other items costing more than they do...

5... Portability ... this still hasn't been addressed.  Supposedly property tax base is to be carried with you from property to property but this was NOT brought up and it is essential

6... Overall... I just did my taxes... I would have been happy to throw a few dollars at the state and to have more people - especially foreign investors and snowbirds - pay a little more of a fair share to the state.  I don't agree with the state having neither Property nor Income taxes.  I think some token tax on income would be in order at this point... even if it does ruffle some feathers.  But I believe that no one would approve that in legislation nor election. 

 

Apr 19, 2007 01:55 AM
Nick M.
Certified Residential Appraiser- West Palm Beach Real Estate - West Palm Beach, FL
Realtor-Appraiser in West Palm-South Florida Real Estate Appraiser
 David.. after this past few weeks my brain is fried, but i can realise this is a great post. i'm gonna have to print it, as my eyes are crossed with all the great info.  how else can i say it? , but with the old and tried true "great post".  i hope this stuff happens, it will be a great catalyst for the market. from your keyboard to God's ears.
Apr 19, 2007 08:26 AM
Anonymous
Alex Diaz
I recently moved out of Florida because I was paying  property taxes.  I own a home in Homestead that has become impossible to sell.  There The city taxes me along with Miami-Dade county, and then the CDD, Community Development District.  I now live in Georgia, where your dollar goes a little further.  We miss Florida, but the tax structure made it impossible to survive.  Thank you for you well detailed, clear article.  Who know maybe now I would not have to sell the property and perhaps some day go back to it.
Feb 06, 2008 07:26 AM
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Anonymous
Chris

Here's an editorial that pretty much sums it up for me.  

Tax-swap fallacies

Voters will be asked to plunder Florida's quality of life and mind in an appeal to greed

http://tinyurl.com/6cc6mm

Apr 29, 2008 12:45 AM
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