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NAR BUYING PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT FROM MOVE, INC (REALTOR.COM)? WHY? WHERE IS THE INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY?

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

                                  * * * * WARNING!  HARD CORE REAL ESTATE TALK * * * *

SOME OF US HAVE MEMORIES LIKE AN ELEPHANT!  THANK GOODNESS!

  • THANKS TO INMAN FOR HELPING US STAY ON TOP OF THE LATEST REAL ESTATE NEWS.   
  • THANKS TO ACTIVERAIN FOR THIS PLATFORM FROM WHICH WE CAN DISCUSS IMPORTANT MATTERS.

AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING A PARALLEL?

  • U.S. Treasury gives $700Billion to U.S. Banks.
  • NAR gives $Millions to Move, Inc.

SEE: NAR teams with Move Inc. on database.  Nationwide property information project moves ahead. . . .

SEE ALSO:  GET YOUR MONEY HERE!!!  NAR IS GIVING AWAY MONEY.   I wondered at the time when I learned about the "SECOND CENTURY" project which includes a small assessment through increased dues on every NAR member, just where the money would go. 

I THINK WE NOW KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WILL GO.  The money, some part of the $20,000,000 raised by the NAR through a $16 fee to each member will go to MOVE, INC.  We REALTORS® all know Move, Inc. as the operators of Realtor.com

Not unlike RIN and it's numerous permutations, the NAR attempts again to circumvent the concept of free market innovation and development by pushing the "Gateway", then dubbed "National Real Estate Gateway", now the "Realtors Property Resource".   I may not have the names and chronology correct.  This attempt to funnel money from the NAR treasury to Move, Inc. is a bit of a moving target.  Moreove, it's a stealth target, buried in the NAR archives. 

Only a news junkie would even attempt to follow this project.  What I couldn't find in the NAR archives is any text of proposals from Move, Inc. to the NAR for this product development, which, I would assume would include cost and benefit projections.  Could it be that the announcement of this expenditure of money by NAR will be disseminated to the membership as an feit accompli?  Of course, the NAR has budgetary discretion.  However, when it comes to contracting for money or "grants" to Move, Inc., the membership has an abiding interest.  ActiveRain members have even more interest. 

See:  ActiveRain v. Move, Inc.

As stated in the NAR "White Paper" of May 6, 2008: 

"A number of technology companies are actively working to aggregate property data and provide such information to consumers, with the potential of creating an "information gap" between content available to consumers and reliable information available to REALTORS®."  More. . .

QUESTION #1:  If "a number of technology companies are actively working to aggregate property data and provide such information to consumers, . . . . .   Why does the NAR need to re-invent, duplicate, compete with the efforts of private technology companies with NAR money? 

QUESTION #2:  If the NAR is going to pay Move, Inc to develop the "Realtors Property Resource", will Move, Inc. then use that information database to sell more product to NAR members? 

QUESTION #3:  Have the NAR management read the ActiveRain v. Move, Inc. pleading?

ALERT:  DON'T BE SWAYED BY MOVE, INC. IF THEY SAY THEY WILL NOT SELL ACCESS TO THIS DATABASE TO REALTORS®.  The history of Move, Inc., previously Homestore, Inc, cannot give any comfort to rank and file REALTORS®. 

QUESTION #3:  If, as stated in the NAR White Paper of May 6, 2008, some of the key features of the library will include by will not be limited to:

  • The database covers the whole country.
  • It includes commentary and unique, timely information on individual properties and areas input by REALTOR®. 

"Input by REALTOR®"??  It would appear that much of what Move, Inc. is being paid big money to develop, aggregate has been"input by REALTOR®".  Just as Move, Inc. now sells product, placement, enhancement, advertisement, features, etc. to REALTOR®, for listing information "input by REALTORS®" The NAR is now funding development of another product for Move, Inc. to sell access to these products to REALTORS®.

CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING: 

FACT:  The housing industry is in recession and REALTORS® are finding it increasingly difficult to maintain a living wage as REALTORS®. 

FACT:  The NAR and local association offices are losing membership daily.  

FACT:  Consumer confidence in the necessity of REALTORS® for real estate transactions is waning. 

FACT:  Real estate brokerage practice is becoming ever more complicated due to the plethora of consumer protection laws and regulations.

FACT:  Local MLSs provide an abundance of information for REALTORS® in our day to day practice, only a small percentage of which is used. 

FACT:  By funding a product development by Move, Inc., the NAR gives it's imprimatur to Move, Inc. giving Move, Inc. an advantage over competition in public acceptance.

FACT:  Move, Inc. is a public for profit company.  What is the projected ROI to the NAR (and the membership) for this "investment" in product development by Move, Inc?

FACT:  With the number of private entities providing national housing data on the Internet, this expenditure of NAR funds to Move, Inc. will surely be redundant. 

FACT:  Goggle will probably have the same housing information online and free to all before Move, Inc.

TIMES ARE TOUGH FOR REALTORS®.  When times get tough in our market, we focus on those tasks and expenditures that make us more effecient and productive. 

Will NAR funding this product development by Move, Inc. make the average REALTOR® more efficient and productive?  What type of accountibility by Move, Inc. is included in this project?

So many questions.  So few answers.

 

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Comments(29)

Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

You are correct that NAR is the Titanic and by the time they get the "national MLS" rolled out another nimble company will have already had it online for a year.  I dropped my enhanced listings with Realtor.com as there are so many other sites that give me the same opportunity for free and I already pay them enough money for membership.

Nov 14, 2008 12:58 AM
Tami Vroma
West Michigan Real Estate Specialist-Five Star Real Estate - Grand Haven, MI
Realtor, Grand Rapids MI Real Estate

It has always bugged the crap out of me that they are taking our money and then they turn around and SELL us leads . . . even if through the a second company.  Why does it seem so many companies get so greedy in this world!!  I have felt for some time that NAR is not looking out for its members!

Nov 14, 2008 01:00 AM
Suzanne McLaughlin
Sabinske & Associates, Inc. (Albertville, St. Michael) - Saint Michael, MN
Sabinske & Associates, Realtor

Lenn, I posted a comment on Inman this morning when I read this.  The Department of Justice threatens, NAR caves, we lose.  There needs to be a national uprising by the membership over this.  Proprietary information is just that.  And what happened to integrity?   Oh, terrific post, by the way.

Nov 14, 2008 01:05 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Erica.  Thanks. I can't for the life of me and I read just about everything that comes across find anything about this until Inman published it. 

Kris.  Let us know what you think. 

Nov 14, 2008 01:06 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Cindy.  You're not alone there. 

Of course the Realtor.com web site never did anyting for Buyer's Agents.  But, then neither does NAR. 

Nov 14, 2008 01:09 AM
Jeremy Blanton
Myrtle Beach Homes Blog - Myrtle Beach, SC
Myrtle Beach REALTOR®- myrtlebeachhomesblog.com

No, he didn't take my call...he said though that I had a question from Myrtle Beach about if I could take pictures of McDonalds...I know better..There was a question though that someone had I was going to ask...but since I didn't I think I will do some research and write a blog about it!

Nov 14, 2008 02:21 AM
Melina Tomson
Tomson Burnham, llc Licensed in the State of Oregon - Salem, OR
Principal Broker/Owner, M.S.

Lenn,

I remember hearing the rumblings about this a while ago.  I do think that the dropping memberships are going to be a financial issue and would not be surprised at all to see the fees associated with R.com to get even more asinine.  Move is a for profit company after all.

Nov 14, 2008 04:12 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Melina.  Move is a for profit company that is subsidized by NAR.

Nov 14, 2008 06:46 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Lenn, I must say NAR just keeps doing stupid very well. The National MLS is a huge waste of time and money. It's not needed anymore. Our listings are everywhere already. 

Nov 14, 2008 09:01 AM
Krista Fuchs
Prudential Fox & Roach - Exton, PA
Chester County Realtor - (484) 459-8025 - Home Buying and Selling

So what should we do Lenn? 

Love your writing!  Keep it coming!

Nov 14, 2008 11:36 AM
Debbie Small
Long & Foster Realtors - Martinsburg, WV
REALTOR

I have to confess that I really had my head in the sand until joining this network. It sounds like the NAR is playing a shell game while poisoning their own well. Maybe we should spearhead AREA - Active Real Estate Agents, hmmm kinda has a nice ring. Is it too late to stop payment on that check?

Thank you for writing such informative posts. I hated missing the show yesterday but will be catching it through itunes.

Nov 14, 2008 01:33 PM
Don Sabinske
Don Sabinske, Sabinske & Associates Inc. - Zimmerman, MN
Sabinske & Associates Inc.

I agree with you and thought your post was necessary and needs to be read by a great majority of realtors.  We need to get the word out NOW.  Complaining to the "management" won't work in this case.  But, steps must be taken to quell this before it goes further. 

Nov 14, 2008 02:15 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Erica.  Right you are.  This "thing" from Realtor.com reminds me of some of the cronie inspired government programs. 

Sabinske.  Good luck with that. 

Debbie.  This network is a far better location for information than Realtor.org. 

Krista.  Goodness.  Do what I did.  This is the second article I've written about this.  If more did, perhaps NAR would hear.  ??????   Nah...

Bryant.  Right you are.  I looked up some EA listings this a.m. and the think is an absolute advertising rag. 

 

Nov 14, 2008 11:33 PM
Jeannie Kontis
Lancaster, PA

Just another reason to add to my growing dissapointment of NAR.  They do not represent ME, that's for sure.

And why isn't this one featured?!  People need to educate themselves and learn about where their membership dues are going.

Nov 15, 2008 08:19 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jeannie.  I already had a feature up when this was posted.  I get my share of features.  So, I rely on subscribers for readers.

 

Nov 15, 2008 09:01 AM
Mary Pope-Handy
Christie's International Real Estate Sereno - Los Gatos, CA
CRS, CIPS, ABR, SRES, Silicon Valley

Lenn, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I did not know that we Realtors would be sending money to Realtor.com. R.com charges a fortune for the return already, so it's incredible to me that they are getting a handout.

Nov 15, 2008 11:29 AM
Rebecca Levinson, Real Estate Marketing and Online Advertising Consultant
Real Skillz-Clear Marketing for Your Real Estate Vision - Lake Geneva, WI

Read thru all the comments here and I have already expressed my soured attitude toward how NAR is treating its membership.  I wanted to tell you that this post is so very thorough and you do a great job of breaking it down for your real estate agent friends.

To me it is simple, you use power for change for the benefit of those you represent, or misuse power for personal gain that compromises those you do represent.

THis undercurrent is so prevalent in our society and we are definitely feeling the effects of what happens when people sell out their integrity for money.

Nov 15, 2008 06:19 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Rebecca.  Goodness, you must have been reading the reports of political contributions to Congressmen on the banking committees.

Mary.  Agreed.  A national MLS or national property records web site is hardly what the country needs.  It can only serve the commercial interests of R.com to sell advertising. 

 

Nov 15, 2008 08:42 PM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

LENN- you raise as always thought provoking issues.  Of particular concern to NAR should be the declining numbers of active Realtor® who have left the business in search of gainful employment. In Orlando membership declined 30% in 2007-2008.  We have seen this trend continue in other regions as well.

Development is another term for recognition, they are behind the technological changes which have impacted how we do what we do... long gone is "The book".

Nov 15, 2008 09:55 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Allison.  I would consider a 30% drop in membership to be a good thing.

 

Nov 15, 2008 10:01 PM