Talk about "moral hazard!"  We crossed that line a long time ago...the whole concern about rewarding people for their stupidity, rewarding corporations for preying upon stupidity and gambling with profits.  The "risk" part of the capitalistic equation has been removed...and as such, there is no more capitalism.   As we stare down the barrel that holds a bullet with the names of GM, Ford, Intel, Macy's, Nordstroms, Citi, HSBC, Amazon, et al, written on it...we have to quickly realize that we either bailout no one or bailout everyone.

We have already committed ourselves to a "U" shaped recovery in all markets because of the massive (although it will get even more massive) government intervention that is preventing a hard-bottom.  This will take years to work through, not months.  I firmly believe that it is not too late to take a huge dose of "Volcker" medicine and do what is right for our country, rather than continuing to do what is easiest.   In the early 80's, confidence in us Treasuries was faltering because of Carter's unwillingness to deal with inflation.  No one was buying our debt, in fact, countries that had been our lenders were dumping US Treasuries like a never before.  THE ONLY solution, was to jack rates through the roof to entice some investors back to the table.  It had devastating consequences that was painful for the economy in the short term, but ultimately saved our economy from a world confidence perspective.

The painful medicine that we now face, will be one that forces our economy to be less dependent on consumption and more focused on production, exportation, and infrastructure development and maintenance.  Companies must fail.  We no longer have a thriving buggy-whip industry because the Government did not prop up an extinct business category.  Many good folks lost their jobs...they had to find other work.  They had to learn other skills.  Life's tough, it's a lot tougher if you are stupid. 

Simply, from a consumption level, consumer "need" level, we have no use for 3 automakers making a product that is ill-suited for the world we now live in.  Other companies supply vehicles that are better, cheaper, and more fuel efficient.  Redundancy is not economically viable. 

Housing prices will fall to 1996  levels and more banks will fail as a result.  More hedge funds will implode, and median incomes will fall as well.  But the quicker we get there, the quicker we can recover.  Pain cannot be avoided. 

OR we can bailout everyone, billions and billions, yea...trillions...and we will never recover.  It will be an "L" shaped non recovery.  Forget about a "U" shaped recovery. 

 

 
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9 Comments on Fork in the Road: everyone gets bailed out, OR, no one gets bailed out!

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17
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That isn't really even 1% of the companies that will further need help.  We are on the worst slippery slope that I've seen in a long time bro.  I can't believe the stress this economy has created for all and the ripples only grow larger.

9:09am • #1
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Rich:  I believe we as a nation should follow the words of that great American philosopher, Yogi Berra.  Yogi said..."Whenever you come to a fork in the road... take it."

9:20am • #3
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Thanks for the post. I read an interesting article yesterday that said if you start bailing out individual companies whose to say when or if you should stop. Yes, I understand that times are tough but we cannot bail out companies that have completely mismanaged themselves and now need somebody else to prop them up. Rich, that it one of my favorite Yogi-isms!

9:51am • #4

I couldn't agree more.  The President-Elect alluded to a more balanced approach.  One from the bottom up which would not reward the stupidty and greed of CEOs and their Boards of Directors.  Perhaps if we can get some common sense injected into the administration, we will see some true signs of recovery. 

10:03am • #5
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Larry...I hope you are well, like, you I want this nightmare to end quickly! 

Karen...great quote...there are some Will Roger's quotes I'll be sharing soon.

Darrell...the line of folks waiting for government cheese is going to be long and distinguished!

Suzanne...I hope for the best with the Obaminator.  He has a massive challenge in front of him!

11:04am • #6
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Rich: I would prefer no one get bailed out. After all, it's up to us to make it. There's no bailout money for us. That being said, there seems to be this unlimited supply of green to fund companies in trouble. You have to wonder how much longer this trend is going to continue and what the long-term ramifications are.

5:45pm • #7
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18
2008
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GM cost per car for Healthcare of workers:  $1600.

Toyota cost per car for Healthcare of workers: $200

Depreciation rates of Big-3 cars compared to foriegn companies:  no comparison.

Job bank at GM:  laid off workers get 96 cents on the dollar for up to two years for sitting in a room and doing crossword puzzles.

Time for the Big-3 go chapter 11.  Re-organize, and say goodbye to the UAW.  Tough, but necessary.

12:04pm • #8
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Just pull off the band aid fast and get the pain over with.

4:53pm • #9

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