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A Realtor was fired from her company

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Real Estate Agent with AVALAR Pro Realty

Okay here is the deal. There's an associate of mine that works for a different company. She was fired from that company. When she was in training months ago. She made a comment to another new agent. She asked the agent would she pretend to be a buyer so she could get listing from fsbos. This was almost 6 months ago. Since then she has been getting to notch listing and buyers. So the other new agent tells the office manager that the only reason that the lady was getting the listing is because she has people pretend to buyers. Which of course gets her foot in the door. Everyone at this office is slow now. So long story short she didn't deny that she made the comment. The broker fired her not because she did it but because she was thinking about doing it. Does this make any sense to anyone.

Jason Vombaur
Keller Williams - Vancouver, WA

Give me break.  She never did it, your boss need to mellow out.

The "J" Team

Your Real Estate Team For Life!

Apr 19, 2007 04:09 PM
George W. Miller
Keller Williams Realty - Naugatuck, CT
Naugatuck and Beacon Falls Real Estate
I agree with Karen, it shows a lack of character. I wouldn't want someone like that working for me.
Apr 19, 2007 04:12 PM
Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR
I disagree Karen because we all do stupid crap when we are newbie. She had never seen a contract at this point and she never did it.
Apr 19, 2007 04:13 PM
Rick McCullough
Alert Home Services - Denver, CO
I wouldn't wish for an Agent like to be working with or around me.. f they lie about small things,,, what would they do if in a real pinch,, honesty is ALWAY the best policy.
Apr 19, 2007 04:13 PM
Karen Rice Keller Williams Real Est
Keller Williams Real Estate - Hawley, PA
Northeast PA & Lake Wallenpaupack Home Sales
How do you know she didn't do it?  she was trying to recruit one of her fellow agents to lie to a homeowner to get a listing.
Apr 19, 2007 04:13 PM
Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR

I can see where you are coming from Karen. That's why this blogging thing is great.

Apr 19, 2007 04:16 PM
Karen Rice Keller Williams Real Est
Keller Williams Real Estate - Hawley, PA
Northeast PA & Lake Wallenpaupack Home Sales

Michelle, we may all do stupid stuff - mistakes - but deliberately lying is wrong, and is not an accident or mistake but a conscious decision - even a nine year old knows that.

Nope, it's agents like that who give the rest of us a bad rap.  perhaps getting fired will help her to straighten up and not be unethical in the future.

 

Apr 19, 2007 04:17 PM
Justin Kaatz
ASAP Mortgage - Madison, WI
CMP
She would be fired on the spot at our company.
Apr 19, 2007 04:19 PM
Michael Trinchitella
Putnam, Westchester Real Estate - Mahopac, NY
Putnam Westchester Real Estate
I know of way too many people who do that nonsense around here
Apr 19, 2007 04:19 PM
Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR

Your right.... You guys are all right about this.

Apr 19, 2007 04:23 PM
Gwendolyn Wrigh
Victory Virtual Solutions - Beaufort, SC
Victory Virtual Solutions

That's right Karen...agents like this do give honest, hardworking agents a bad rap. I have known some grimy agents in my experience, but I have also known some "grindas" who just worked diligently, and honestly until they started to reap the benefits of their labor. 

 

Apr 19, 2007 04:23 PM
Lynda Eisenmann
Preferred Home Brokers - Brea, CA
Broker Associate ,CRS,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA, Orange Co

Hi Michelle,

Thanks for the interesting post. 

As a broker myself, I've terminated only a few in over 30 years.  However with that said,..acting dishonestly under any situation like this is absolutely NOT acceptable.  The broker also has a responsibiliyt to everyone else in your office. So, if it's o.k. for one person to s-t-r-e-t-c-h the truth, how about every one else?

I think that broker should be congratulated!  Sorry to say, I've seen too many brokers look the other way, especially with a high producer. NOT acceptable!

Apr 19, 2007 04:28 PM
Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR

Lynda I agree but how is it okay for some and not for others. Prime example there has been some SHADY crap going on at this company and because it's the multi million dollar a month agents it just pushed under the rug time after time

Apr 19, 2007 04:33 PM
Jody Deeds
Key Realty, LTD - Columbus, OH
"Helping You Move On With Your Plans"

Doesn't make it right, but it is happening.  Deceptive and unethical practices make it much more difficult for the rest of us to justify commissions, convey value, build the relationship, etc.  Realtors have joined forces and work hard to raise the level of professionalism and validity in the eyes of the public.  Let's not loose that.

Apr 19, 2007 04:35 PM
Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR
Jody your right it does make it hard on the ones that ethical.
Apr 19, 2007 04:42 PM
Randal Keberlein
Weichert Realtors, Precision - Kenosha, WI
Did she actually do it?  None of us know this person's heart.  This would potentially be a fire-able offense if it was done.  Having a bad idea is not a basis for firing someone
Apr 19, 2007 05:21 PM
Karen Rice Keller Williams Real Est
Keller Williams Real Estate - Hawley, PA
Northeast PA & Lake Wallenpaupack Home Sales

Well, the fact is - she tried to get a fellow agent to lie in order to secure a listing.  That's what's in her heart - deception is an okay means to an end.  "A bad idea" is an understatement (kind of like calling a lie a "fib" or a "white lie" to soften it a bit...it's still a lie.)  If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck...could it be a robin?   No.  It's  a duck.

Perhaps the contract she has with her broker allows the broker to terminate the contract for a situation such as this.  And like I said - getting fired could be the best thing for her.  Maybe she'll be more ethical in the future.  I am one who does believe a leopard can change his spots... (then again, maybe they just get better camouflage...)

SIgnature

Apr 20, 2007 12:10 AM
Lynda Eisenmann
Preferred Home Brokers - Brea, CA
Broker Associate ,CRS,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA, Orange Co

Hi Michelle,

Slow-sales or million dollar month, that's NO excuse for any of it.  If you truly feel other  "SHADY crap" as you put it is being swept under the rug, I think I'd definitely talk to the broker about it.  And it's not right for some, but not others. There is nothing wrong with questioning things in your office. He/she may be able to shed some light on the situation for you, or even possibly understand that the playing field is not level.

Good luck and let us know!

Apr 20, 2007 12:43 AM
Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR
I agree with both groups in this situation. Having a bad idea is not grounds for termination. It almost like say lusting is the act fornication and its not. Although both are sins.....
Apr 20, 2007 03:28 AM
Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR
Guys thanks again for all the input and insight on this issue....
Apr 20, 2007 03:31 AM