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The Price of Turnips on the Moon

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Real Estate Agent with Re/Max Assoc. Brokers Inc.

In this time of tighter credit requirement agents and Loan officers need to look for alternative lending options for you buyers. Some of those are Buyer's Dream, Niamiah, Chapa, or other 501 (C) (3) not for profit corporations. The 100% loan is still out there like FHA (Disaster Loans), Freddie Mac Home Possible but your buyers need higher credit scores to qualify. In the Gifting program the buyer & seller enter into an agreement where the seller gives a gift to a not for Profit charity corporation. The not for profit charity keeps a fee then gives the funds to the buyer for their down payment. If you need help in closing fees the seller can help in that area also. Different loan have different requirements so you need to talk to your lenders to get all the information & percentages. The great thing is the charity gets funds the buyer gets their down payment and the seller gets their home sold. It's a win, win, win situation. You will want the right appraiser also. Some of the appraisers look at the gift as an artificial inflation to the purchase price. I myself am against appraisers getting a copy of the contract. But in Missouri it's required. I don't see the relevance in the contract price and the appraised price. Some years back I was refinancing our home in Hawaii. I wanted to use my VA loan because Jimmy Carter had all but wrecked the economy and interest rates were going through the roof. So we called an appraiser in to do his job. When he arrived he asked me how much I was refinancing the house for. I was thinking what does that have to do with the price of turnips on the moon? I told him $100,000 his reply just about floored me. He said "I can do that". I can do that? I just gave this guy $250 to tell me something my 10 year old son could tell me. I can hear him now "Hay dad how much are you refinancing the house for" $100,000 "I can do that".  I asked well what was the house worth?  He said "$100,000" that was a quick $250 down the tubes. I was talking with an appraiser in our area that I Trust to give an honest appraisal. My question was if you as an appraisers are constantly look backwards to get your comps how do the homes in our area ever appreciate. I mean there has to be some mechanism that allows you the ability to show supply and demand. One of the first things you learn in any area of commerce. If you have a limited supply and an upward demand the price will elevate. If on the other hand you have a surplus of supply and a diminished demand the price will subside. He told me they didn't. The question is what does the contract price have to do with the appraised price? Absolutely nothing!

In Your Service, Russ Prothero

Brad Patshkowski
Heritage Home Loans a division of Mann Mortgage LLC - Spokane Valley, WA
Home Loans Spokane, WA
I have used the Niamiah program and it works great.  People need help out there and we as Loan Officers need to have it available to them...good post!
Apr 21, 2007 05:48 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Russ, I have enjoyed reading your brother's blogs and the past and hope to stop by and read yours as well now that I know the two of you are related.

First let me start off by saying that FHA does not have a 100% loan program yet, but there is legislation in the works that could make that a possibility.  FHA is also starting to take a closer look at gifts from not for profits like Nehemiah and following the "My Community Loan Program" and no longer accept these gifts towards  downpayment.

As far as the appraiser getting a copy of the Sales Contract, it is also required here in Connecticut and it feel that it is to our advantage that the Appraiser have one, because it could be the difference between an Appraiser looking a little harder for comp's to make a deal work and not searching as hard.  The same thing is true especially for Refi's, because the homeowner does not really know what the value of their property is and neither does the Loan Officer, but again here gives the Appraiser an idea of what value is needed to make the Refi work, and if there is any chance at all of achieving that amount by him looking at every possible way to reach it.  I know that they should look at every possibility to appraise a property for as high a value as they can, but that is not what happens in many cases.

This is an ever changing business Russ, with many variables, and twist and turn.  I hope my comments my give you a different perspective of looking at this.  One of the biggest values that I have found to AR is the sharing of ideas, opinions, and outlook on things.  Even if I don't agree, I always come away with food for thought.

Apr 21, 2007 07:19 AM
Randy L. Prothero
eXp Realty - Hollister, MO
Missouri REALTOR, (808) 384-5645
I have had pretty good luck with most appraisers.  We do have one VA appraiser that we have to challenge almost everything he touches.  Fortunately we do our homework well and have been successful in 100% of the cases.
Apr 24, 2007 10:44 AM