Today, my daughter and I took a 2-1/2 hour drive east from Saint John to Moncton, New Brunswick. We were both VERY EXCITED!!! We both took the time to go see our former U.S. President William Jefferson Clinton speak in Moncton.  The former New Brunswick Premier Frank McKenna (now a hot shot for TD Financial Bank) introduced my former president to 6,000 people by the time the Moncton Coliseum was full.

He stated a few comments that I think are note worthy.  He said, "The financial crisis proves we are living in an interdependent world." That the current U.S. administration should have taken steps on the mortgage crisis at least a year ago.  That the signs were there that the housing industry was in trouble, due to deregulation of the banks.  That the Hedge Funds were too much in the housing industry and many "short term sellers" were betting against many U.S. companies, so the 10% richer Americans were getting even richer.  That consumers were losing confidence with the U.S. economy and were starting to not buy.  He believes in a capitalism society, we shouldn't have bailed out Lehman Brothers, they should have been allowed to fall.

He said that he spoke to the Wal-Mart officials and when the banks started having problems in September & October, Wal-Mart saw the largest drop in consumer spending, except for one item; home safes.  Wal-Mart saw a 30% increase in home safes!!  Basically, Consumer confidence had hit an all time low.  People were willing to buy their own safes, even though the banks had most of their money insured.

He thinks that O'Bama did the right thing by hiring Larry Summers.  He believe, Larry Summers is the smartest man on the planet, because he understands the fundamental differences between the 1930's, 1980's & the current 2008 financial crisis.

He thinks that what should be done with the incoming O'Bama administration is: 1st, a stimulus program to liquify the economy.  2nd, a tax cut for the middle class.  3rd, a public works on the infrastructure investment of our towns, cities and states.  With projects in building the better water facilities, modernizing the roads and the bridges.  Also, he believes that we need a train system that can get us around more effectively throughout the states and he has been told that the electrical grid is in dire need of revamping, it's extremely outdated.  He's an advocate for having all the people in the U.S. to have increased broadband internet access throughtout all of the rural areas, that still don't have access to the internet.

In Health Care, he believes we need an electronic medical care, or as he called it an "intelligenct medical system" similar to Canada's or Great Britains system.  He indicated that we (as a U.S. country) spend $200 BILLION more just in Administrative pay, and we need to tackle this problem, which is crippling our health care system.

For the private sector, he says they need to think short & long-term goals.  He says that the automobile industry is outdated on technology.  We need either a different fuel or more economically efficient on the current fuel (gasoline) or a little of both.  He gave an example on the new car coming out called the "VOLT" THAT WILL GET 40-50 miles per gallon.  Most people in the U.S. don't travel that far and since the technology is new, the country or private sector could coordinate a response with $10,000 credit as an incentive to buy these cars between Canada & the U.S.  He also indicated that since the auto industry is having problems, that Canada would be hit with job losses in the manufacturing sector.  He gave a call to the private sector, and said that "they need to lead" to bring our fianancial crisis out of its hole. 

He did joke a little and actually agreed with the current President Bush on one item only!  Food Aid for other countries, he thought that Congress should have passed a bill to send the knowledge on "How to farm on your own soil and give them money based on that" instead of sending them food only.  He believes that we have to give Food Aid to countries, by teaching them how to successfully grow their own food and that would begin the cycle for self dependency.  The money sent would go to the seeding, and knowledge base given to the local farmers within that country.  Self-discipline & self dependency within your own country is a wonderful thing to pass on to your own culture.

As a country, we need to shorten the period of distress with this financial crisis.  He feels we will get out of it within a year or two and it depends on how quickly the next administration & Congress moves on it.  He was strong on the fact that as leaders , if we put our heads together, we will get out of this crisis stronger than before! 

On another front, he said that we (U.S. and Canada) need to do our personal civic duty to our own countries, by helping our own.  That seems to feed on people who give their time, money or knowledge.  On this, I (myself) think Canadians in general, usually give more than other countries.  Many average Canadians give money, time and knowledge.  I've seen the differences between the two countries.

He thinks that Democracy should go worldwide and that by helping other countries through global trade, orderly transitions into Democracy, improving environmental standards and improving wages worldwide we can all live peacefully in tranquil.  We will have less Afghanistans if we help them survive financially, economically and with less turmoils as a country.  We would make more friends and less enemies if we were willing to share our wealth instead of being greedy about it.

Frank McKenna did ask him a few questions at the end about Canada's concerns.  One of them was that with the financial crisis, Canadians think that the U.S. will create job protectionism and that could hurt Canada.  Mckenna went on the tell him that Canadians loved his policy and embraced  Clinton's philosophy on balanced budgets, which he did during his presidency years.  McKenna also asked him, why it takes so long for a new elected president to take the office over.  Clinton explained that before the "Great Depression" in the 1930's the transition of a new president would take over in March of the next year, but due to the "Great Depression" the inaugural dates were moved to January.  I never knew this before, so I had a little history education taught to me today.  I believe this is Why I majored in Math & Science...

He ended the conversation with Afghanistan, which many Canadians are fighting in the forefronts there.  Clinton said that the U.S. became distraughted by Iraq and forgot Afghanistan.  That we are starting to shift our military policy more towards Afghanistan and less with Iraq.  He believes that Petresis is a GREAT GENERAL and will help work to do this in the next administration.

In conclusion, my daughter and I were very enlightened and had a wonderful time.  Ironically, it took me to move to Canada to see an actual president in person.  The whole time in the U.S. I never had the opportunity to meet one in person.  I left with his one comment on my mind on learning to fix this economic crisis; "Don't be like a cat, once they sit on a hot stove, they'll never sit on a cold stove."  We need to learn from our financial mistakes and not be afraid to evolve to the next level by trying something new.

 

              

 
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69 Comments on OMG!!! Went to See Former President William Jefferson (Bill) Clinton Speak in Moncton! WOW!!!

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I have never heard one of these speeches live.  I bet you it is very interesting.  It is like living history.  Something you can tell your grand kids!

7:22pm • #1
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Evening Ann-Marie,  Sounds like you had a great time.  I have a " Communication/Speech" background and always enjoyed Clinton's speeches.  Too much was made of his failings and too little of his ability to speak from the heart and engage his audience.

7:24pm • #2

I hope you took all that with a grain of salt.  After all Clinton is still a politician and a president that was impeached for lying to the American people under oath.  You know he did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinski.  Unfortuneately, the dress proved different.  He, like most other politicians, will tell you whatever you want to hear.  Then he will turn around at his next appearance and tell them the oppisite. 

7:28pm • #3
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Ann-Marie, I am thrilled you got to attend, I would have enjoyed this too and thank you for coming back to tell us what he spoke of.  I think he made many good points and wish I had been there to hear it.

7:34pm • #4
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Hi Jim,

It was better than any concert I've been to!  That's what my 20 year old daughter told me.   My daughter was born in 1988, so  this is the president she really remembers as a little girl, other than Bush.  It was insightful and encouraging to hear, because we were concerned on what was happening to our country here in Canada.  He was mostly positive about what will happen to the U.S. if we are willing to change for the global economy. 

                                 ;>)

8:40pm • #5

Ann-Marie,

Your experience supports the fact that Bill Clinton is a dominating influence in the world.  There is no doubt that he is one of the most intelligent presidents of our age.  His comments on which you reported are clear and poignant and topical.  However, as Ray pointed out, Mr. Clinton has his own agenda.  With Hillary as our next Secretary of State, it remains to be seen if Mr. Clinton will come clean with his dark side relationships with moneyed interests around the world.  If only he would follow the Carters and support good causes and forgo his need for riches.

8:54pm • #7
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Hi Bill,

We both left the Moncton Hockey Coliseum with the impression Clinton could easily speak to anyone at any level.  He was very diplomatic and I honesty thought he was more of a messenger, telling us that the private sector really needs to take responsibility for their actions.  We can't bailout every company that fails, that some companies need to collapse to learn their lesson.   It was great to see & hear an intelligent president ex-president again. LOL

                       ;>)

9:12pm • #8
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Hey Carole,

I know I haven't written in a while, but I needed a short break.  I believe after attending this speech, I will be attending others...  I think it's wonderful to listen to intelligent people, who have the knowledge and desire to teach us more about ourselves and society in general.  He really hit the spot on global economies and how we can really make peace with most countries, by treating them with respect.  Not just grapping their resources, but by giving them the economic, financial and skills to survive on their own.  It just made more sense!

                                                         ;>)

9:24pm • #9
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Ray:  I really wonder why it is that people can live through the eight great years our country was led by President Clinton... and then someone like you finds yourself commenting on Monica Lewinsky.  How boring I find folks like you.  

Remember... what Bill Clinton did to Monica Lewinsky... George Bush and Dick Cheney have been doing to our entire country for the last eight years.  Clinton may have left Monica's "soiled" dress behind... but I would much rather have that... than all the blood spilled over the last eight years due to Bush's and Cheney's Folly.  (thanks, Ann-Marie)

1:36am • #10
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Ann-Marie:  I am so envious I could scream.  I have been waiting patiently for this post... ever since you first wrote about going to see President Clinton.  Your write-up on all of his ideas was just great.  And the fact that your 20 year old daughter was with you must have really made the entire night even more special.  How cool !

Clinton has so many great ideas to share.  I will be very glad if it comes about that Senator Hillary Clinton actually becomes Secretary of State.  I think she more than has enough of a mind of her own to NOT let Bill control her in her Sec of State duties.  But... what an incredible resource he will be for her as she steps out into the world to make it a better place.  I am so relieved about the outcome of this election.  

( ps... what is your daughter's name ?  And... does she know what a cool Mom she has ? }

Ann-Marie... nice to see you jumping into this like you have.  I wish I could have been there.  The closest I have come... is actually spending a night in Hope, Arkansas several times as I drove from Texas to the DC area.  Take care... have a Great Thanksgiving.  We have much to be thankful for.

 

1:46am • #12
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Hi Karen Anne,

There were many, many, many business people, who I believe came to hear him speak about the economy.  It was impressive!  Clinton was funny throughout the speech and he was asked about his wife, Hillary becoming the new Secretary of State by Frank McKenna and his response was:  "I can't say, or I will be killed."  It was hysterical and the audience LOVE IT!! 

My daughter was cute, before we left, we were walking up the Coliseum corrider (on our way out) getting closer to Clinton's side, as he was finishing his speech, my daughter, Jenny stopped looked at him a little longer (to put it in long-term memory) and then reinforced her excitement through "dancing" a little on the floor and said:  "I can't believe I actually saw him."  She was funny!!!

                                                                ;>)

6:52am • #13

thanks you Ann-Marie. Did Bill say anything about him having a role in Obama's administration as previously thought? Funny a lot of Clinton's old cabinet members are being hired as Obama's new Cabinet members.

12:05pm • #14
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Hi Ann-Marie. I am so glad you got to see him speak.....wish i could have. :)

12:49pm • #15
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Isn't he a wonderful speaker?? I had the privilege of working on both of his Presidential campaigns and have heard him speak a number of times. That's wonderful that your daughter enjoyed herself.

1:09pm • #16
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Karen Ann: I'm in your camp. I agree 100% with your response to Ray. I believe Bill Clinton was one of the great Presidents of this country. Despite his shortcomings as a man, I feel he was superior as a President.

Ann-Marie: How lucky you are to have gotten to hear him speak. I hope I will get the opportunity soon. Thank you for sharing your experience.

1:50pm • #17

Hi Ann Marrie

Glad to hear that you enjoyed the event. I was fortunate enough to catch president Clinton when he  spoke here in Halifax. I went in with no real expectations or excitement (free tickets) but came away with a much different view of the man. I found his insights into American Canadian relations very interesting and informative and was even surprised when he addressed some tuff issues Mainly Rwanda, which was one of few notes of contention I had from his time in office. Sounds like you had an equally enjoyable experience. I'm sure the impression he made on your daughter will be a lasting one.

Marc Doucet -Realtor Prudential Property Specialists in Halifax
1:52pm • #18

I wish I could have been there - not only great delivery but Bill Clinton actually knows stuff.  In his case it is a shame that we have a 2 term limit.  The nightmare of the last 8 years should never have happened. It is always great to listen to someone, politician or not, that at least has a brain. This will be a nice change too.

 

1:58pm • #19
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Hi Ann Marie,

Thanks for sharing - that sounds like a great experience. :)

I am not opposed to his proposal for a middle class tax cut but I don't think that should come at the cost of raising taxes on the "wealthy" as Obama proposed during his campaign - and ironically now is backstepping by "delaying" his proposed tax policies for a couple of years.

Tax cuts are fine, I have no problem with that, but I would rather see an economic stimulus plan that provides tax incentives for people to invest in real estate or buy American made cars. 

Give people a tax break for stimulating the economy and the housing market - not just for making a certain income.

2:53pm • #20
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Hi Ann-Marie...I was fortunate to attend President Clinton's first inauguration.  I will always be thankful that I had the opportunity even though there was a huge crowd.  Knowing I was there is a treasured memory.

I second Karen Anne's comment to Ray. 

Many of us were disappointed with Pres. Clinton's actions but were very grateful for his overall leadership of our country.

How great that you were able to share this experience with your daughter.

Kate

3:56pm • #21

I would have enjoyed to see him speak!  I am super jealous.

4:26pm • #22
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It's funny how Bill Clinton has different effects on people.  When I listen to him, all I see is an insincere, arrogant slime ball that makes me want to throw up.   When I see people go on about how wonderful he is, it makes me feel like I'm living in a completely different world.  I keep asking myself, am I the one that needs help or is it the others who need help seeing the real deal? I really do hope your opinion of him is correct.  But my spider senses just don't give me that feeling. 

4:31pm • #23
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Hmm time to amend our "65 ways how not to get featured list" and scratch political posts off. Bill Clinton has both good and bad qualities as a president and as a person but his passion for this country as with other presidents make him a great speaker. We look forward to listening to past presidents like George Bush speak in the future as well.

5:17pm • #24

Did he hit on you?

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5:17pm • #25
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Funny that Bill Clinton gave a speech about what he thinks America needs and  how he'd fix the problems in America and he's not even in office anymore.  Although the  appointments in the "O'Bama" administration which promised "change" is certainly starting to look like Clinton's, minus the Secretary of Defense who is going to remain the same as from Bush's (what does THAT tell you)?

@ Tim Maitski - You and I must live in the same world.  It also puzzles me that women find him attractive though I don't expect you to be able to relate to that.

@ Castellum - Glad I wasn't the only one puzzled about the political feature.  I'll look forward to YOUR featured post on Bush's speaking engagement after leaving office (although somehow I doubt you'll ever get that little gold star.)

 

7:08pm • #26
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Hey being from the great state of Arkansas I have had the privilege of hearing slick willie a half a dozen times. He is and will probably go down in history as the best speaker to ever be President. We knew in the seventies that he would be president, in fact he said he would as early as 73. He will also be the head of the United Nations at some point. I liked him as a president and leader, it was his morals and ethics that I never could understand. I guess it is just the Realtor coming out in me. I could go on for days about Slick Willie, even thought about writing a book on his years in High School and before he became Governor.

7:14pm • #27
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He loves to talk and tell you what he would do. He gives a great speach. Loves to throw out ideas. He has made millions off of us. Maybe he should have been a college professor.

We have lots of politicians very much like him and they all sound great. Its the Southern way. They learn from going to church as yung ones.

8:47pm • #28
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Bill could always give a great speech, He really makes people feel good about things. The trouble is once you think about it aftyerwards you realize he really didn't say anything. It really is to bad he was such a disgrace to our country.

8:58pm • #29

It is amazing that the country did so well during the Clinton years.  Not surprising given how bright he is though.  What a shame it had to be followed by a disgraceful 8 years in which our country declined in every way imaginable. 

We have reason to believe that nightmare is now over. Although the damage of the last 8 disgraceful years will take a generation to repair - if it ever is.

9:06pm • #30

Paul,

Let's not over-emphasize the success that Bill Clinton enjoyed.  An awful lot of that success came from Newt and the Republican congress.  It goes to show what can be done if our two major parties cooperate for the benefit of all.  My hope is the Obama and McCain can resurrect that thinking once again.

9:57pm • #31
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Very nice transcription. I've seen President Clinton, in person, speak a couple of times now. I think he's one of the smartest men, and Presidents we've ever had. I just wish he hadn't lied, it has made everything he's done since questionable. Darn!

5 Minutes later...
I posted this before I read all the comment as I knew the nay-sayers were around. I went back and read all the comments, and yup they're there.

10:25pm • #32
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Ann-Marie.... I have never had the opportunity to meet any president, past or present... Thanks for the information..

 

10:29pm • #33

The success of the Clinton years was in spite of Newt & co.who by the end were already tearing apart the framework that kept the system stable.

I don't think there is an "Obama and McCain".  McCain showed his lack of independence and ethic by kowtowing to the far right of what once was the Republican party.  He betrayed values that he once APPEARED to have.  I don't think he has much of a part to play any more.

Obama will need all the help he can get to begin repairing the country and reversing the continuing poor decisions of the current occupant of the white house.  Only a small part of that help will come from the ramains of the Republican party as a large part of the organization still thinks Palin has a brain.  Indeed, she energizes them. 

Obama is bright and he is bold.  He also has what it takes to lead and many will follow his lead. Some, will follow people like Palin instead. 

 

Those roads will never converge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10:30pm • #34
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People will have differing opinions I am sure -- but we were a lot better off in the Clinton Years!  This is the worst economy since the depression and the Republicans can take full credit for that!

10:42pm • #35
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Paul:I agree with you. The last 8 years have been the most disgraceful 8 years in our history. All the blood that's been unnecessarily shed, the current economic disaster, and a President that can't put two words together have taken a toll on the US and most personally, me and my family. I'm so looking forward to having a smart, thinking man in the White House.

10:44pm • #36

Paul,

Let's not over-emphasize the success that Clinton enjoyed.  An awful lot of that success came from Newt and the Republican congress. 

11:22pm • #37
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I watched President Clinton a few weeks ago on a late night talk show.  He did a great job of explaining what's going on in the economy and his recommendations for how to improve it.

11:57pm • #38
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Tim:  Why do you have to be so negative ?  What a pitiful existence you must lead.  You have chosen to take a warm and wonderful experience by Ann-Marie and her twenty-year old daughter Jenny... and tried to baste it with the rotten eggs that appear to make up your personality... if not your life.  What a shame... yes... shame on you. 

12:22am • #39
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Sounds like his talk was very enlightening--a brilliant man with quite a few flaws.  I hope he's able to refocus his life now.

6:42am • #40

Good for you. These guys are always enlightening and the opportunities are so rare.

6:55am • #41
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So, youre excited about seeing a man who raised taxes, ignored national security intelligence, lied to the people that elected him, and was a disgrace to his family and the Office of the President of the United States of Amerca.  Now, he leaves the country and tells foreigners what we're doin wrong. (Who's that sound like, Obama) Then, others spit their hatred for President Bush, who was faced  with possibly the most difficult presidency in our time.  Now, Obama is elected; a man who never served the U.S., a man who comes out with socialist ideas like "spreading the wealth around", is a radical pro-abortionist, suports tax payer funded abortion, and a man who listens to rev. wright proclaim his anti-American, racist views.  He will now be President, Why, because he is charismatic and gives a good speech.  Please, I'm sure you are all very intelligent people, Don't be so gullible to good speakers.

PS: to all investors who voted for Obama, have fun with the 28% capitol gains tax. 

12:34am • #42
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Dan:  You forgot one more thing about Clinton.  He knows how to spell... or use spell check !  LOL.

You are just one more tired-out, worn-out example of the unabashed negativity that is wrong with people who don't get their own way.  Didn't your mother ever tell you about... "if ya can't say anything nice... etc, etc ?"  Come on, now.  Give the guy a chance !

I have no hatred for President Bush whatsoever.  But... the seemingly never ending series of mistakes, misjudgments and outright lies he made has cost our country thousands of lives that did not have to be lost.  Whatever Clinton did... he could never come close to the harm Bush brought about.

And oh, by the way, Dan.  Nice profile you have there.  Did you spend much time on it ?  :)

1:21am • #43

I'm not as generous as Karen when it comes to my feelings about Bush.  The biggest mistake the congress made was in not impeaching him for multiple offenses, including crimes against humanity, and trying him for treason, convicting him and imposing the highest penalty allowed by law.

They may argue that they let him run the country into the ground because to hold him accountable for his offenses would further divide the country but the damage done was not worth it.

 

 

 

8:45am • #44

Sounds like a great opportunity, wish he would come a round here to do some speaking.

10:22am • #45
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Hi Everybody,

I'm always amazed how some people don't see the problems that President Bush has made and always bring up how wonderful President Bush was.  I really believe that either these people are blind, going through denial or extremely stubborn!!!  I believe you have to look at the "Brains" that the president has and look at how they help your country.  If they have "no brains" and your country is disintegrating before your eyes, then I can't justify President Bush.  Former President Clinton put his country first (not his morals) but the U.S. was way ahead until he left.

I have a bumper sticker on the back of my windshield and it sends a clear message and I strongly believe in this:  

                     "Eh George, can you leave, President Obama needs his office."

Even people in Canada, love this bumper sticker.  What does that say?

It's not what party you belong to, but how that president can help you and your family???  I know as a REALTOR, these last 8 years haven't been easy in the U.S.

                                                  ;>)

2:49pm • #46
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Quick. Somebody please explain to me the logic of the same person who wrote this:

You are just one more tired-out, worn-out example of the unabashed negativity that is wrong with people who don't get their own way.  Didn't your mother ever tell you about... "if ya can't say anything nice... etc, etc ?"

Also writing this:

He knows how to spell... or use spell check !  LOL

and this:

And oh, by the way, Dan.  Nice profile you have there.  Did you spend much time on it ?  :)

and this:

How boring I find folks like you.

and this:

Why do you have to be so negative ?  What a pitiful existence you must lead.  You have chosen to take a warm and wonderful experience by Ann-Marie and her twenty-year old daughter Jenny... and tried to baste it with the rotten eggs that appear to make up your personality... if not your life.  What a shame... yes... shame on you. 

 Honestly you need to follow your own advice.  If you are so offended by "negativity" then I suggest you lead by example and not write anything negative in your own posts/comments.

I still don't understand why some people insist on getting PERSONALLY OFFENDED when someone says something negative about a political figure they support, chastising that person for being negative, and then proceeding to insult the character, existence, beliefs of a peer on what is supposed to be a professional network. 

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Hi (Michelle) Above All,

I stayed pretty quiet on my comments until I got the last few, I was amazed at how many people aren't looking around themselves and seeing the disarray of what's happening and what this administration is doing about it!!  Just plain nothing!!!  And I know someone will say, "yes, but their on their way out."  To that I say, we have almost two months left (or 1-3/4 months).  If they really knew what to do, they would try to solve most of it now, but they can't reason out of  this eonomic disaster...  Again, I tried to stay on target of the blog...

                                                        ;>)

3:35pm • #48
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Hi "Above All" :  I usually follow my own advice, and rarely get negative.  But in your case... after seeing all the bullying going on, and the continued attempt by quite a few commentors to hi-jack this post... I chose to confront the bullies.

This post was written as a commentary about a mother and daughter going to see a former president, Bill Clinton, speak.  I felt it was more of a "family" post rather than a political one.  And for most of the first half of the comments... that is the way that it stayed.  Then... in came the "neggies."  

Their attempt to hijack the post... and their continued affronts were attempts at trying to turn it into the typical political drivel that is too often their tactic.  As I said... I just got sick of watching the bullies... so... armed with my thinly-veiled sarcasm... I chose to confront.

And, by the way... number one... I stand by everything I said.  And... secondly, Mr "Above All"... at least I chose to put my name on what I had to say.

One more thing.  I am guessing that this post was "featured"... because I do not believe it was written as a political post.  But as I said... i saw it as a well-written mother-daughter sharing type of post.  Most of the rest of us... mostly other mothers and daughters... along with some "enlightened men"... were able to figure that out.  

Boys, I am now done with you.  Have a wonderful day.

10:39pm • #49
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You are right,nice blog about a mother and daughter outing.. I can relate... HOWEVER, no offense but there are alot of people here who would absolutely LOVE it if you would take that disgrace of a President, Clinton,  right back to CANADA with you... :) Thats why all the negativity came about... I hope you have a blessed day!!!!

10:23am • #50
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Clinton is definitely an eloquent speaker.  That is one of his better traits.  Hopefully all this turmoil will pass in short order.

10:29am • #51

Yes, Tana, GW Bush is a disgrace.  Since Bill Clinton left office he has involved himself in MANY  philanthropic activities.  Some of it along with GHWBush.   GW likely won't attempt to accomplish anything in the world (other than cutting brush) .  It will be interesting to compare his activities as a past president with those of Clinton.  Too bad he can't start early.

 

 

2:37pm • #52

Paul, you obviously cannot read.  I said NOTHING about George Bush... I was talking about BILL CLINTON... if you read the blog it is about BILL CLINTON.  Can you read Paul?  You cannot irritate me Paul... Good Try though!!!!

3:01pm • #53
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Paul,

Bill has become a mutimillionaire with his philanthropic activities. At least they keep him out of the country alot and when Hillary becomes secretary of state we'll probably see even less of him.

3:07pm • #54

GHW Bush is ok.  Clinton is ok.  GWBush is not ok.   Lets see what he does with his life after next year.  He has been a failure in every activity he has been involved in.

 

3:10pm • #55
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Glad you were so happy to Mr. Bill.  If you recall, he backed the creation of the sub-prime lending legislation.  Though many others had the opportunity to scream that this was one of the most disastrous bills ever created, it was he along with his corrupt circle that created and managed this mess ever since.  If this was never created, we would have never had the crises we are in.  God willing the FBI will jump in and put these guys in prison.....but we all know that they will get a presidential pardon.  So yes, I will believe in CHANGE if I see it.  So far, it is looking very scary and I am fearful of losing many employees over the coming cost due to increased taxation of our business as well as our clients trying to sell their homes.

Be fearful of your government.  They are out of control and there has been zero talk about changing the corruption.  Zero.  Thus, do not have blind faith that your leaders will protect you.  Protect yourself and keep watch over your government.

3:13pm • #56

Why is it that most, if not all, Bill Clinton supporters have selective memories.  Lets go back 8 years and look at some facts.  While most of America and Congress was focussed on the impeachment hearings and what was going on in the Oval office, terrorists from all over the world were coming to our country, the land of opportunity.  And when George Bush took office in January 2001 it only took 8 months for the opportunity to present itself.  How soon we forget about that Tuesday morning of September 11, 2001.  You know the rest of the story.  Where was Bill?

With that said it continues to baffle me why so many women still think Bill is so wonderful.  He misused his authority and took advantage of a young woman.  He was a married man at the time.  He lied to the American people and Congress about it under oath.  That is called adultery and perjury.  He failed to protect the American people from extremists who hate our way of life, our freedom. 

He is a very good speaker. But that doesn't excuse his mistakes.  The one speech I would pay money to hear is the one he gave to Hilary when she found out about his affair.

6:46pm • #57

America was focused on the impeachment...interesting that was pursued to that point for lying about an affair. Pretty big deal.

I often wonder though how it is that lying about an affair justifies impeachment when lying about justification for starting a war (and many other things) does not.

 

 

 

7:54pm • #58

Sounds like the former president stated a few comments that were false. That is his wont.

Did you know that the mortgage issue WAS addressed in 2007? (Didn't work. What is being done now won't either.) Did you know that there have been legislators and executives and newspapers trying to get action on this since before Clinton left office? (Among them: John McCain, Chuck Hagel, President Bush, the Wall Street Journal.)

Bank deregulation had nothing to do with the mortgage mess's causes, which is why people like Clinton (and Obama, and the Democratic party) only rarely or never point to any actual deregulatory changes in law---there are none that had any causal role. (Bush didn't deregulate the banks, despite Obama's know-nothing, detail-free, generalized line of crap about deregulation.) The last banking deregulation was passed in 1998, by a large majority in both houses (nearly unanimous in the Senate, about 35 votes against in the House), and signed by Clinton. It was supported by all of today's Democrats howling about deregulation---Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Biden, Dodd, Bill Clinton, etc., etc. Clinton held a Rose Garden signing ceremony, with his Secy of Treasury (Rubin) and leaders from both parties, they were all so proud of the bill. And they were right, too---in fact, not only was that deregulation under Clinton good, not bad, and not causative of our credit mess, but it actually helped avoid a couple of crises, enabling commercial and consumer banks to buy Lehman Bros. and Merrill-Lynch this year---preventing them from becoming federal bailouts.

It was Clinton. Most of what he said was not true. It is usually that way. What could one really learn from a guy who cannot be counted on to tell the truth about anything beyond his name?

I'd also like to say a good word for your first country. Charitable giving is greater in the US than in Canada. Not to take anything away from Canadians, but Americans are pretty much the most generous people in the world. (Note to the carpers who think I'm talking about government foreign aid when I say "generosity": I'm not. Government giving what it taxes away is not generosity.) See http://www.envision.ca/pdf/news/FraserInstitute.pdf.

A side note: Our president elect is Mr. "Obama," not "O'Bama." He only sounds Irish. :)

10:45pm • #59
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30
2008
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For the individuals who still thinks that Clinton was bad, while Bush did nothing these past 8 long years for our crippling economy.  Just wait, watch and learn as the next president (also an intellectual like Clinton) turns things around for the better.  It takes "Brains" to delegate authority and "diplomacy" to make sure our country is heading in the right direction. 

Something Bush & his cronnies, never learned...... It's not which political party is in power, it's how our President & Congress help our country progress....

It's time for our country not to be scared and to begin going forward, instead of backwards!

                      ;>)

 

1:09pm • #60

Yea, whatever.... Watch and learn backatcha

8:32pm • #61

Ann-Marie, my father has a business that helps prompt people when they are giving speaches. Last year he worked with Bill Clinton and said he was a very nice person. He also said he is one of the best at delivering his message.

8:56pm • #62
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01
2008
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Hi Rick,

He definitely has the gift of gab.... I belong to a Toastmasters group for public speaking here in Saint John and just by watching him, I learned many new techniques for my future speeches.

                                       ;>)

6:47am • #63
DEC
03
2008

Ann-Marie I guess you didnt read my comments above about Bill Clinton seeking an Obama Job. Here's the article at http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081203/pl_politico/16156 Happy Holidays to you and your Family!

10:52am • #64

Stephen, I just read the article and didn't see anything about Bill Clinton seeking a job in Obama's administration.  Did you post the wrong link?

 

 

11:06am • #65

Yes Paul its the right link. It doesnt specify what kind of a job. It just basically says that he would be "open" to a new role in the Obama Administration.

11:14am • #66

Oh, I see. You just misspoke when stating that Clinton was "seeking an Obama job".

 

12:00pm • #67

Paul It doesnt specify what kind of a job. It just basically says that he would be "OPEN" to a new role in the Obama Administration.

12:14pm • #68

That is correct.  Being "open" is not "seeking". I think the difference is pretty clear and one cannot accurately state that someone is seeking a job they are merely open to.  Especially in this context.

 

 

 

12:29pm • #69

Paul how many times did you hear that Hillary Clinton was "open" or "seeking" to a job in the Obama Administration? she or her husband obviously cant pick which job they are open to or seeking. It doesnt work that way. But yes excuse my one word mistake saying that Bill Clinton was "Seeking" a job in the Obama Administration.

12:46pm • #70

WHOA Ann Marie... I think your readers have trailed WAY OFF  point...

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