One of my specialities is working with first-time home buyers and newbie Realtors. So when my Clients are first-time home buyers WITH a newbie Realtor, I can get really excited, kind of like having a barbecued chicken pizza with a raspberry margarita and a slice of pumpkin pie.

Back in August I had just such a situation with first-time home buyers and a newbie Realtor trying to work their way through a damaged foreclosure on a 2,084-square-feet, 1962 home. The bank was selling the property "as is," so my Clients, who had been to my web site, asked me for my PREMIUM inspection, which is my second most technically exhaustive inspection, and which would cost them $849.

The inspection went well, but as with all first-time buyers and newbie Realtors, they had that look of fear on their faces and in their eyes, and needed help putting things in perspective. That's where I come in with a bedside manner that has been developed as a Realtor, roofer, landscaper, property renovator, and more. Bad things are only bad if you don't understand why they are bad and how to make them good.

This house had an old FPE electric panel (bad), an old cast iron sewer system (bad), deteriorated foundation piers (bad), a roof nearing the end of its useful life (bad), and lots of damage caused by the owners when they moved out.

Everyone kept asking me how much it would cost to replace the panel, the sewer system, etc., and I responded with my standard line: "I don't know because I don't do that type of work, and I never have Clients call me three months after the inspection to tell me how much it cost to replace or repair something, or how much the bank reduced the selling price by, or anything like that. If you would like to be the first, please give me a call."

I also tell them that in cases like foreclosures that are being sold "as is," it never hurts to ask for repairs, a lower selling price, escrow credits, or whatever. If you never ask, the answer is no. If you ask, you have a 50/50 chance of the answer being yes.

When I was a Realtor in Houston when the Texas oil boom was going bust, I found that the best way to work with sellers was to spend my own time getting three quotes, providing all three quotes to the seller, and saying that I would be happy with the middle quote. I always thought that showed a lot of effort and good faith on my part, and that's what I always advise my Clients, especially when they are first-time home buyers and newbie Realtors.

So guess who sent me an email late last night? They didn't call, like I asked them to, but this email was very good.

They got three quotes for the electric panel, the sewer system, foundation work, and a new roof, and ignored the aesthetic damage to the walls, ceilings, doors, and the like. They provided all the quotes to the bank. Remember that this is an "as is" sale. Well the bank didn't go for the middle quote, but they did agree to the lower quotes. So this is what my Clients got:

  • $1,500 to replace the electric panel
  • $2,100 for replacing the cast iron sewer pipes
  • $11,000 for repairs to the roof
  • $3,200 for replacing foundation piers

Total: $17,800

My Clients and their Realtor were ecstatic, to say the least. They close escrow today.

For what it's worth, the bank is in New York. Don't know if that made a difference because they didn't want to deal with a West Coast property, but it is what it is.


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13 Comments on How my Clients got $17,800 from the bank on an "as is" foreclosure

NOV
26
2008

Hi Russel,

First time reading your blog and I am hooked. I'm not a newbie REALTOR® anymore, but I definitely learned something from your words of wisdom. I've had my clients ask for things in an as-is sale, but getting the quotes of three service providers is what constitutes going 'above and beyond'. It sounds like your many positions in the world of housing has given you a unique perspective on the busines. I look forward to hearing more. Thanks!

Frances Sanderson, Franklin, NH  REALTOR®, Certified EcoBroker®

12:43pm • #1
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Hey, Russel. As expected you are always there to give 100%. Great job and I hope that you have a wonderful Thanksgiving, Jim

12:45pm • #2
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Taht's great you were able to assist in getting the first time buyers all of those credits. I will have to try the 3 quote approach in the near future too.

12:47pm • #3
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You are so right. Banks will sometimes pay for repairs on bank-owned properties, but most commonly with the 2nd or even 3rd buyer. In my experience they seldom do it on the first go-around, but once it falls through once or twice they sometimes budge (knowing they will run into the same issues over and over and over...)

12:55pm • #4

With all of the foreclosure Inspections I do ,I've never promised it to be more than a punch list of what the buyer will pay for out of their own pocket.

Interesting post Russ.

Thanks for the different perspective , which you always supply in abundance .

You are also right about people not usually calling their Inspector with the end result.

I offer free final walk throughs which are usually repairs done by the developer ,so that I never hear much about costs myself.

$11,000 for a roof repair sounds high , so I am guessing this was a big roof.

2:15pm • #5
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Russel - that's awesome! Glad the bank agreed too. Many times (depending on the bank too) the answer is no, but hey it doesn't hurt to ask! ~Rita

2:20pm • #6
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I guess it shows how much an inspection pays for itself. Thats really crazy.

3:36pm • #7
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That's great Russel!

"Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family"

4:54pm • #8
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This just goes to show you the value of a good... no, make that great home inspector!! Kudos, your clients are lucky!!

4:55pm • #9
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Russel, it is nice to see that you were able to help them in getting repair money. There are so many bank owned homes out there that need repairs to make them safe and livable. I home more banks wake up on this issue.

9:37pm • #10
NOV
27
2008
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I know they all think you are the greatest!  I hope you and Jim and Zoey have a Happy Thanksgiving!

9:20am • #11
NOV
28
2008

Happy Thansgiving RR and good work for your client.

Jack

12:16am • #12
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24
2008
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Russel, I like how you care enough to give good advice to buyers and real estate agents.  You're worth your weight in gold!

Regina P. Brown

3:49pm • #13

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