ARM FORECLOSURE STATISTIC! IT'S ALL ABOUT PAYMENT SHOCK & POOR PLANNING!

Here's a staggering statistic. According the New York foreclosure inventory the rate for prime ARMs increased 23 basis points, while the rate for prime FRM loans increased 2 basis points. The foreclosure inventory rate for sub-prime ARM loans increased 131 basis points, while the rate for sub-prime FRM increased 12 basis points.

Many mortgage professionals offered the 2-3 year ARM model with the hope that the borrowers will have better credit before the ARM expires to qualify for a better loan. Unfortunately, for a lot of borrowers this isn't the case. Many of them still have the same credit profile and some even worse. This is more prevalent with purchases. After depleting their reserves for down payment and closing cost, many of them utilized credit cards to stay afloat. Many borrowers used credit card to furnish their new home. Those who moved from the city to the suburbs used credit to buy a new car. Instead of improving their credit profile, they now have more debt exposure than ever. It is almost impossible to qualify or to get a new mortgage that benefits them.

Once ARM expires and their monthly payment increases, they could no longer sustain their payments. Borrowers do not have any dramatic increase on their salary or have any new source of income and having an extra $300-$900 increase on monthly payment is impossible to swallow.

What is more disturbing is that many mortgage professionals gave them a 2-3 year pre-payment penalty. ARM is a temporary solution to "get them into the house", is it expected that they will try to refinance before the ARM expires. Why give them a pre-pay that is as long as or longer than the ARM expiration date? Hello! Are we supposed to be the "experts" here? What a foresight that is! Or we just don't care as long as we have a fat commission check. After all pre-pay means better pricing and better pricing means more Yeild Spread Premium.

Another factor is the LTV issue. 2-3 years is not enough to build equity. No equity plus bad credit profile then your borrower is stuck. Many lenders have change guidelines that most high LTV sub-prime programs are now extinct. It is now more difficult to qualify a sub-prime borrower with a high LTV. To make matters worse, market value of homes in a lot of areas have declined. Those who took interest only 2-3 year ARM products will have a rude awakening. They have LTVs more than 100%. The payment shock an interest only ARM product is more extreme than fully amortize ARMs.

As you can see based on the statistics prime ARMs has 23 basis points vs 131 basis points for sub-prime ARMs. Most prime ARMs have longer terms 5,7 and 10 years, while sub-prime has the 2-3 model.

Now if we compare the numbers of foreclosure between ARM and FRM we see a big difference. It's all about payment shock.

I am not knocking down ARM products. They exist because there is a need and a market for it. Why pay a higher rate 30 year fixed program if you are going to refinance or sell your home in a few years.  You should discuss with your client on how long they are going to hold on to the mortgage. You should also give them a game plan to build enough equity and improve credit to prepare the exit from their current ARM mortgage. We are not just Mortgage Consultants we are also Mortgage Planners. They are using ARM only as a temporary vessel. How long is temporary? Is a better question to ask! Give them a realistic time frame to execute their plan.

 

 
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40 Comments on ARM FORECLOSURE STATISTIC! IT'S ALL ABOUT PAYMENT SHOCK & POOR PLANNING!

You hit the nail on the head here, the ARM is a TEMPORARY fix to their current financial situation.  That 2 or 3 year comes up fast.  Great Post!

04/22/2007 07:29 AM by Open Home Mortgage - Georgia's FHA Loan Expert (Open Home Mortgage - Georgia FHA Loan # 1 Lender)


I agree with you on the the whole idea of a 2 or a 3 year fix rate than adjust is to give the client hopefully enough  time to fix their credit problems not to go out and buy cars or take on additional debt.  If they where an investor then time for them to sell the property.  However most people never fixed the problems with the credit (like pay thier bills) and then act surprised or blame the evil broker for putting them in a bad loan. 

Great post!

04/22/2007 01:40 PM by My Favorite Mortgage.net - Matthew J Blum


Yup, it's catch 22. It's always our fault. Sometimes even after educating and mentoring them and giving them a plan(act like a mortgage planner) they still fail to improve thier credit profile. Thanks for the feedback.

04/22/2007 01:52 PM by JEROME GENTOLIA (UNIVESAL HOLDING LTD- UNILION GROUP)


Great info, brother...I am wondering why this blog did not get a star in the network at large.....

hmmmm.........

 

04/23/2007 02:13 PM by Central Florida real estate - Alexander Harb PSEM®, E-Agent® (Beach and Luxury Realty Inc.)


Our fault?

hmmm... I think there are multile layers of blame that could be issued...

but ARMs and Short Term planning aren't supposed to be about EQUITY building

Equity is a whole other subject that often doesn't apply to first time homebuyers or credit challenged buyers.  Why? because in the first 2-3... even 6-7 years you just CAN'T build any significant amount of equity anyway!

You're a commercial guy anyway from your profile... on the commercial side it is about versatilitiy and flexibility for small businesses and so the lenders see less risk in the short term ...

but it is up to the Broker AND Buyer to stay on top of that situation... and if one drops the ball, the other is surely not going to be there in time

As far as Pre-pays... come on!  A good broker wouldn't put a 3 year prepay on a 1 year arm... and most Lenders match prepays to terms

Unlike Commercial with 7 year prepays with 48 month interest guarantees on 3 year ARMs

 

04/24/2007 09:36 AM by Boca Raton Florida & Boynton Beach Florida Mortgage Loans


Really good information. I agree with you about helping your clients establish a plan of action to better their chances of getting a better interest rate. It's all about planning and education. Many professionals don't feel that it is their responsibilty to educate but how can you choose not to educate when there are so many future, new homebuyers out there that just aren't getting it.  If you can educate someone and pass on good information, I think it helps you sleep better at night. Thanks for breaking this down for a newbie. As a licensed virtual assistant, I intend to pass this info on to my clients, with the hope that we can establish more new home buying classes, with mortgage brokers and lenders involved in teaching some part of those classes.

04/24/2007 10:33 AM by Courtney Fontenot, NAR Certified REPA, REW™ (Alpha Prosperity Management)


I agree with David that it is not the mortgage professionals fault alone here.  Also, at least here in Florida, if you put a borrower into a 2 or 3 year ARM, the pre-pay cannot be greater than the fixed rate period, so the refinance can take place just prior to the adjustment.  Personally, I don't do subprime loans anymore as they do not fit well into my business model.

04/24/2007 02:34 PM by Robert D. Ashby, CMPS - Solid Rock Mortgage Corporation


The 2 -3 year ARMs were not intended to build equity. They were designed to help clients with eliminating debt. A reasonable equity building time-line is 5-7 years.

Eddy

04/24/2007 02:40 PM by Eddy Martinez (Nationwide Funding Group)


Too often, I hear borrowers express surprise about the exploding rate or the pre-payment penalty.  Unfortunately, those loans are most often sold to consumers that have the least understanding of the product.  Usually the euphoria of buying the house has caused some memory loss, or somehow masked the comprehension of the high risk they are taking on.

04/24/2007 03:13 PM by Julia Wei (Law Offices of Peter N. Brewer)


IN New York the Market Value of REal Estate especially in Manhattan went up 313% in 5 years 2001-2006. Other boroughs like Brooklyn , Queens, Bronx and Staten Island at about 150-200%. If they are thinking that their home will still do the same at todays market, they are making a big mistake. Everything has to come to an end. It is a cycle and the cycle has peaked. Don't get me wrong, people will still buy homes. I am firm beleiver of the REal Estate market. But the market right now has stabilized, and I do not see it peaking anytime in the near future. Some areas in teh Bronx and Queens have suffered a decline in market value already.

04/26/2007 11:44 AM by JEROME GENTOLIA (UNIVESAL HOLDING LTD- UNILION GROUP)


Jerome yes thats true its a cycle. The same thing that happened in new york is happening here in California. Almost all lenders are doing apprisal reviews and values are getting cut even more.

Eddy

04/26/2007 02:56 PM by Eddy Martinez (Nationwide Funding Group)


I make sure I watch over them ever 6 months to call and do a credit check up, keeps my clients close with me

Ben

04/26/2007 04:42 PM by Q Q (Q)


I have enjoyed reading your blogs and have found them very informative.

Thank you,

Cyndy Sujarit

Prudential Commercial Real Estate

06/09/2007 08:51 PM by Cyndy Sujarit - Prudential Commercial PropertyCow.com Investor Network (Prudential California Realty)


Jerome,

I can't agree with you more on the subject of 2 or 3 year PP on these products. The lender was at fault for making that possible and encouraging brokers to "sell" it by paying 3 or 4 points rebate. The brokers are "criminal" because they were not looking out for the client, only themselves. A 5/1 might have ben the right product for those borrowers with a 1 year pre-pay. This would allow the client the most flexibility and the least risk.

The ONLY legitimate use of a neg am pay option arm is as a "wealth builder" for strong borrowers who have the discipline to invest the balance of what should have been their payment in a higher yielding investment, thus turning their house into their own personal bank.

I think that the lenders who have a lot of these 2/28s and 3/27s on their books should be forced to restructure them as 5/1s or eliminate the pre-pay,

Nobody benefits from a foreclosure frensy. 

Bill Roberts

07/20/2007 12:21 PM by Bill Roberts - "Baby Boomer" Retirement Planning (Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate)


Great blog... Interesting facts... very well spoken...

Matt

07/20/2007 12:41 PM by Matthew Rosenberg (Investors Mortgage LLC)


I enjoyed reading your blog and the responses.  My take is both the borrower and loan officer are culpable.  We have all encountered borrowers who want to get into a home by any means necessary.  We also know (of) loan officers who will sell a mortgage by any means necessary. It's our job to inform borrowers of their financing options.  The borrower, in turn, should be able to process this information and determine what best fits their short and long term goals. 

07/20/2007 02:22 PM by Velda Brown, Countrywide Home Loans


People were unknowingly led into the more toxic loan programs that paid the most commission.

07/20/2007 03:52 PM by Orlando Homes Armando Rodriguez Real Estate & Mortgage Broker-GRI (QUEST REALTY SERVICES)


Great post. I talk to people who call to late after they try to manage the payment shock(not well 3x30 and worse) better to call before rather than later

07/25/2007 09:06 PM by James Hoben (Rockland Trust Mortgage)


This is absolutely true.  However, it may cause an already busy LO more work and stress, but with more organization and due-diligence, one can stay in constant contact with all of his/her past clients ensuring they are on the right path.  An ignored or forgotten borrower can stray off of their path and wind up in the same position or worse.  Let's stay on top of our borrowers, make appropriate decisions, and bring them up from the depths of the lowly and keep them a "Client for Life"   Lets stop the crap and make a difference.  "Under Promise and Over Deliver"!!!!

Derek Bridger

Senior Mortgage Consultant

Bourdeau Financial

dbridger@bourdeaufinancial.com     

 

07/26/2007 12:42 PM by Derek Bridger (Mortgage)


I agree with everything you wrote but I also think another problem are these agressive lenders who shop loans, until they get the highest kickback, then they ask for updated bank statements right before closing then they ask for more money at closing to pay their outrageous fees.     

07/27/2007 08:37 PM by Chris Lee (RealtySouth)


I think the informed customer will not put up with that Chris but I know it happens. What else happens is when they get the bad news and an honest rate quote it is so much higher than they were expecting that they continue to call till someone sucks them in with a lure of a low rate but a very high cost loan.

07/27/2007 09:51 PM by James Hoben (Rockland Trust Mortgage)


I dont think a lot of informed customers know it happens until an honest agent points it out.  I have seen it happen over and over with some of these mortgage brokers.   I will beg my clients not to go to these online lenders and mortgage brokers unless I know them.   A lot of time the client doesn't realize they are shopping for the highest kick back and as far as the money at closing these lenders will wait to the last min before closing in order to approve the hud so the first time the buyer or the agents see the settlement statment is at the table.   Then the buyers feels obligated.   I try my best to get people to go to a local lender who I know can get just as good of a rate and you dont' have to deal with these type of companies.  And the thing about the lure of a low rate with high cost is absolutly the truth.   They will also lure them in with a low rate and after they have spent 15 days with them and they are close to closing and dont think they have time to go to another lender they say well you dont qualify for that rate because of " this or that" and they raise the rates.

07/27/2007 11:54 PM by Chris Lee (RealtySouth)


If anyone has an ounce of knowledge of the current market....and being a broker, I experience this every damn day......we're not looking for the biggest YSP.  I'm sure there are brokers out there like that, but they're on their way out the door....  WE'RE STRUGGLING JUST TO FIND LOAN PROGRAMS FOR THESE POOR PEOPLE!!!    Now, on top of it all, banks are driving up their rates,  lowering LTV's, eliminating programs and plain driving up Foreclosure rates.  Now is the time to get together and understand there is a big enough pie out there to work side-by-side and not even look at each other's pipe line.  Pay it forward guys, we can literally change the market if we make it a point to expose whats happening.  THEN, us good guys will EARN the business and better our client's financial position.  It's a win win.

08/03/2007 10:21 AM by Derek Bridger (Mortgage)


Never been a fan of the ARM. I agree with you that the ARM is a temporary solution to "get them into the house. In my Financial Plans for my clients the ARM is the last resort to get them in. I only recommend loans that my clients can afford.

08/03/2007 06:07 PM by d


Derek and Chris ...thanks for visiting my blog and your comments. You both have made great points making the exchanges more interesting.

08/04/2007 12:54 PM by JEROME GENTOLIA (UNIVESAL HOLDING LTD- UNILION GROUP)


Francisco..I am glad we share the same views...thanks for visiting my post

08/04/2007 12:56 PM by JEROME GENTOLIA (UNIVESAL HOLDING LTD- UNILION GROUP)


James...thanks for visiting my post...yes I am suprised to see many borrowers procastinate and make that importnant phone call after they have numerous mortgage lates. 

08/04/2007 12:59 PM by JEROME GENTOLIA (UNIVESAL HOLDING LTD- UNILION GROUP)


the problem I have is that you are not factoring in the home owners responsibility... that is what is wrong with this country, people think that someone owes them something. You are putting no responsibility on the current owner, who need to make sure that he pays his bills on-time.  the whole reason for a 2/28 or 3/27 is to give he homeowner an opportunity to get in a home , establish some credit and refinance in a few years. The problem comes in when they go back to the same old patterns. Once again, this is there problem not the mortgage industry.If we as mortgage professionals did not give them the opportunity to get into a home, then people would say that we were discriminating against people who couldn't get into homes.  as usual just my two cents....

08/05/2007 10:52 PM by SETH SRADER (abc)


Jerome - great blog I agree with you 100% I am giving this a 5 I hope to see this as a featured blog

08/05/2007 10:57 PM by Dan Tobias - Northridge Real Estate Expert (Windermere Real Estate)


Seth.....I agree with you....the sub-prime demise is not solely the fault of mortgage professionals..buyers and consumers played a big role as well and so as the investors..there are many more factors involved. I have written other blogs that are geared towards consumer as well. Thanks for your insight and thank you for dropping by.

08/06/2007 08:25 AM by JEROME GENTOLIA (UNIVESAL HOLDING LTD- UNILION GROUP)


Seth.....I also agree with you.  My only point as far as assisting the homeowner is that as you said, paraphrased, homeowner's spending habits do not change overnight.   Brokers in general have been known to be less than honest and/or ethical and I only hope to gradually change the negative views that are out there of us.  I know that just like our clients spending habits, that will not change instantly.  However, we can, like the market, change it.  Be it as it may slowly, but we can....and should.

08/13/2007 10:39 AM by Derek Bridger (Mortgage)


Jerome, your details of buyer behavior for the first few years after closing is eye opening!  Many folks are thrilled to be home owners and then want to furnish it thinking that if they qualified for the mortgage everything must be OK so spend, spend, spend!

08/13/2007 10:57 AM by Stephen C. Olczak (Trust USA Mortgage Corp)


You can blame the borrower, the mortgage broker but neither would have been enticed if you didn't have the myriad of loan programs.

08/13/2007 07:40 PM by Orlando Homes Armando Rodriguez Real Estate & Mortgage Broker-GRI (QUEST REALTY SERVICES)


Orlando, you wouldn't have a career without that myriad of loan programs.  I however, can sell 30 Fixed all day.  Don't be so short-sighted.  We're here to educate one another, prosper, and work together, not shift blame.

08/14/2007 12:15 PM by Derek Bridger (Mortgage)


Good post.........yes, ARMS are SUPPOSED to be a temporary solution, but obviously that hasnt been the case for many.  

08/14/2007 01:46 PM by SETH CALLEN (OKLAHOMA INSURANCE SOLUTIONS)


I was sitting with a client last week while a loan officer from a large bank .. (sounds a lot like: Bank of uh mere ick a).

The loan officer was showing different options to my client and put the 5 Yr Arm on top and started "playing it up" as a great option for her.

I said to the lender, " correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the rate is the same as a 30 year fixed?  Why would anyone choose the ARM over the 30 year fixed?"  He said " Oh yes you are correct... "

We quickly switched to looking at 30 year-fixed programs.  Of course then he started pushing a couple of options with a lot in points.  Needless to say he was annoyed when he realized that I was one of those agents who can work a calculator....

When I explained to my client that one of the options he was showing us only saved $30 a month in payments and she could get a better return for her cash up front in an ING savings account - my client was even less thrilled with this loan officer (and loved me).

 

08/21/2007 04:28 PM by James Downing - REALTOR® - Washington DC Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


There is only one defense I have for the loan officer pitching ARMs.  The average american refinances every 5-7 years.  Also, realtors don't always deal with purely new clients so they do in fact help clients sell the very same house they bought.  Repeat business.  We loan officers also enjoy repeat business.  Having said that, I too would offer the ARM.  HOWEVER, the rates should not be the same.  The loan officer may have been trying for several things.  In this case, if your acusation was correct, he was looking for bigger fee.  I myself on the other hand, would have correctly assessed the buyers goals, purpose, and intent of longevity in the house.  Should they prove to fit the mold and be good "bill outs"  I would definitely put them in the ARM.  Less fee up front for the same rate and I still get paid well.  What irks me, is that realtors in NY can make up to 7% off a closing while a loan officer can make only 3.5 max after Title. High cost is 4.99.  So when I charge 2-3 for ensuring the loan closes and EVERYBODY gets paid, and MY fee gets scoffed at during closing....I get a little annoyed when my expertise and decisons become the center of criticism.  I, however, am not in question here.  I thank the Lord and my upbringing for that!  I'm glad that there are Agents like yourself out there who can decipher the difference.  Bravo James!  If you like, you can visit my profile and we could chat. 

Looking forward to hearing from everyone!

 

08/27/2007 10:27 AM by Derek Bridger (Mortgage)


The only blame is for the American marketing machine, that has created me mass consumer glutton. That has no abilty to see past there instant gratification for there next purchase.

03/24/2008 04:03 PM by Nova Shank (Keller Williams North Seattle)


I believe the indivisual is responsible for their financial position. However if we can, we should keep the large ship from sinking.

06/12/2008 09:01 PM by James Graner (Residential Services Real Estate Appraisals)


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