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Questions RE: Loan Modification Experience?

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Real Estate Agent with Coldwell Banker - Quality Properties

Are you experienced with loan modifications?    

A few days ago, I had the question arise from someone who is now being overwhelmed with solicitations from attorneys and loan modification professionals.  I am sure they are on a telephone list due to the type of loan that they obtained when they purchased their home through another agent a few years ago. They are not behind on their payments, but the payments are going to jump soon. 

I am aware of the H.O.P.E. program at http://www.hud.gov/hopeforhomeowners/

Although this is great for some.  Correct me if I am wrong,  the way I understand it is that the HOPE program is a full document program. 

There is no option of a refinance due to the decrease of values driven by the current short sales and foreclosure driven market. 

How can a stated income client qualify for a loan modification? 

There is no refinance option due a significant decrease in values and they can only afford to keep making the current payments, just not the amount that the payments will soon adjust up to?

They do not want to short sale and or give up their home. 

Correct me if I am wrong but the way I understand is that you have to be behind in payments? 

I would appreciate any feedback from those of you who have had extensive experience in the actual LOAN MODIFICATION process and any of you that have worked with the H.O.P.E. program?

Thank you in advance for your feedback! 

 

Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator

"How can a stated income client qualify for a loan modification?" We don't accept "statements" for modification. To my knowledge no lender does. HOPE is a joke even though I really got behind it and pushed it very hard. It is not bringing much hope. I say this with sadness because I am a 1-888-HOPE-NOW provider and receive many calls referred to me by them. Be very careful about "Loss Mitigation Professionals" who are not attorneys and who do not work for a lender. Seriously, most of them have no experience and no business playing with people's lives. Now, more than ever, I am getting calls from people who have paid "Loss Mitigators" hundreds or thousands of dollars, in advance, with absolutely no results.

Nov 26, 2008 03:37 PM
Lenska Bracknell
Lenska Realty - San Diego, CA
Residential & Investment Specialist

I am working with a loan modification company and they are getting amazing results. It is important that professionals talk to the decision maker at the bank.  You don't have to be behind in payments. It is more important to proof that the borrower will be able to repay the loan with the newly negotiated terms. The hardship letter explaining why the can't afford the current payments or the upcoming adjusted payments is another critical document the client need to provide. Loan modifications are even done on investment properties. I hope this helps.

 

Nov 26, 2008 03:39 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Dawn,

You got two good answers. I only wanted to add that current values are not a factor in negotiating with the lender trying to change the existing loan. If you have the ability to pay, you basically have a contract and can be held liable for following the terms.

When you can't pay (and declining value is not a factor, but loss of income, illness, decrease of income are) then you would be better off finding an attorney, who specializes in cases like that.

I am not a guru, but I did not quite understand the "stated" part here. If htis is not a refinance, and people already have a loan, there should be no difference. They simply go to the Lender (better have the attorney do that) show the hardship, show that they would be able to do it with the terms they are asking, and "stated" or "full docs" should not be a factor, but I may totally wrong here, so check it with the attorney.

Nov 26, 2008 03:51 PM
Dawn Helena Anderson
Coldwell Banker - Quality Properties - Porter Ranch, CA
Realtor Since 1998

Jon - The original loan obtained a few years ago when the home was originally purchased was based on "stated income" meaning that they did not have to show W2's or any documentation to obtain the original loan.   So, I am wondering if this will interfere with the loan modification?  I am curious if they can just modify everything without showing income?  How do you overcome that obstacle?

Nov 26, 2008 04:02 PM
Dawn Helena Anderson
Coldwell Banker - Quality Properties - Porter Ranch, CA
Realtor Since 1998

Ken, Thank you for your feedback re: no acceptance "statements" for modification. I am curious how this is approached?  Hardship Letter?  I would love to know more?

Lenska, Thank you for your feedback, does the loan modification company you use work California at all?

 

Nov 26, 2008 04:08 PM
Anonymous
Lenska Bracknell

I just joined this site and not sure about the procedure about replying. My email said to follow the link which I did and here we go... The term "stated income" does not exist in loan mods. You will need to show bank statements, 2 month current paystubs or current income situation. The lender wants to know that the borrower is capable to pay the new mortgage. THe hardship letter will explain about how the borrower's income situation changed and why they can't afford the current mortgage payments. Large savings might not constitute a hardship. The banks are really working with you if it comes to those adjustable loans that double your payments. If you made your payments before the adjustments on time but now you are behind...there is the proof in the pudding... I am representing National Home Savers Pro and you can find out more at www.Modify4You.com . We don't charge upfront and are based in San Diego. They use a very streamlined process and all it takes to complete 3 forms plus the hardship letters.

Nov 26, 2008 04:29 PM
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Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator

Dawn, they can "state" anything they want to but if it cannot be verified we are not going to accept it. It's often harder to do a modification or short sale because the tenant is much less co-operative than they were when they were begging for the money to get into the home. Sorry that reads so crassly. They have the burden of proof. Just saying, "we cannot afford our payments" is not qualifying evidence thereof. Yes, we want a hardship letter along with the proof of everything contained in it. (By we I mean people who are truly charged with mitigating loss on the behalf of their investors.)

Nov 26, 2008 05:08 PM
Dawn Helena Anderson
Coldwell Banker - Quality Properties - Porter Ranch, CA
Realtor Since 1998

Thank you to everyone for your knowledge and feedback regarding this matter.  It gives me some insight.  I was looking for a way that a self employed (business owner) who originally obtained the loan with a interest only loan and no income verification could obtain a loan modification and it appears to me that this it doesn't look ideal.  Due to decreasing property values they are not able to refinance with no equity.  It is sad to me that there is not a program implemented to keep them in their home.   

Nov 29, 2008 03:39 AM