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APR Reform is needed

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As a mortgage professional, my job is to provide my clients disclosures on what the true cost of borrowing money is going to be.  In other words, we are supposed to hand out government required disclosures that will tell a borrower the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Yeah...RIGHT!  The truth and lending disclosures mortgage loan officers give their clients are a joke.  The federal government expects people to believe that someone can honestly shop for the best mortgage possible by taking one of these truth and lending statements to various mortgage lenders and comparing the rate.  We'll it's very unlikely that you'll ever have a mortgage company fill out their TIL the correct way, or will that Annual Precentage Rate disclosure be ever valid.

#1  Most home-owners buy or sell within 5-7 years.  So why get a 30 year fixed rate mortgage if your planning on moving?  The interest you pay on a 30 year mortgage is amoritized heavily in favor of the bank, especially during the first 10 years.  Unless your willing to pay additional principal payments, you will never realize the true APR of the loan you signed.  If you look at the actual interest paid, and then compare it to the actual principal, you'll find that your ACTUAL paid annual interest is much higher then 10%, and for every year earlier then 30 years your actual APR goes up significantly.  So when someone tries to hang their hat on this rate is better because!!!  Maybe...but you really should think about all the extra interest your going to pay every 5 to 7 years.

#2  Most mortgage lenders don't even fill out their forms correctly.  We're trying to self regulate more efficently, but often mortgage loan officers you compete with will have their TIL's reflect the BEST possible situation. 

#3  Most loan officers pick the loans that will make them the most money and cost them the least amount of heartache to sell.  What I mean by that is selling a 30 year fixed mortgage is easy!  Everyone is told it's safe, low payments, and banks pay allot of what we call Yield Spread Premium for selling this product to our clients.  Why shouldn't they, they're making a killing on people getting these loans and then selling or refinancing 3 to 5 years later.  Many loan officers either do not understand the other lending programs available to their clients or they intentionally ignore the reasons they should not stick someone in these type's of loans.  Don't get me wrong, a 30 year mortgage has it place, but not with the average 30 to 40 year old American.

#4  So if my 30 year mortgage is bad, then shouldn't I get a 20 year term or 15 year term?  This sounds logical, and if your only interested in paying off your mortgage then it's probably better then sticking with a 30 year fixed mortgage.  But let me ask you one question? How much more do you want to pay each month to pay down principal on your mortgage?  Do you really want to increase your mortgage payment 150-300 dollars a month? 

With the number of mortgage programs available to most loan professionals, I find it hard to swallow when I watch "quote" experienced loan officers jam their clients repeatedly into loan progams that really do little benefit to their clients long term goals.  In fact you'd be suprised how many mortgage loan officers neither care or want to know what their clients goals are.  They just want to keep on refinancing this client, year after year after year!

As a mortgage planner I understand what programs help my borrowers and which ones they need to stay away from.  Depending on their short and long term plans, it then helps me tailor a program that maximize their cash flow.  Cash Flow is the key to financial success.  Too often people are what we call, "House Rich and Bank Account Poor".  Having a viable cash flow allows us opportunity and freedom to accomplish more and in a shorter period of time.  Retirement, investment opportunities, vacaction homes, all these become a reality when you have strong cash flow.  Why reduce your cash flow to payoff a liability when you could have that money working for you in an investment.  Money in a can under your tulips, or money locked in your fire proof home safe still doesn't give you a return.  IT won't grow and if you put in back into the mortgage it still won't provide you a rate of return. 

So anyone who picks up their next truth and lending statement.  I guess you can get worked up about how that lenders fee's is .25% better then the other guys.  But I'd be more intrested in working with someone who asked me what my retirement income needs to be by age 65.  I'd much rather work with someone who helped me design a long term financial plan.  At that point the .25% better guy down the street doesn't matter!  He surely wouldn't waste a second talking to you about mortgage planning.  And if you still don't understand how to figure out your APR, don't worry, neither do most of the mortgage professionals out there.  Be more concerned about the program your getting into and it's long term ramifications on your future wealth.

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Ann Guy
NA - Allentown, PA
When I take a loan app, the most important question I ask is "What are you looking to accomplish with this loan?".  I never ceases to amaze me that customers are shocked by this question.  Noramlly, first respose (if it's a refi) is "a better rate/lower payment".  My next question is "what would you do with the money you would save?"  That's when you find out what their true goal is. 
Sep 13, 2006 04:25 AM
Eddy Martinez
Nationwide Funding Group - Highland Park, CA
benefit to the borrower is another component of the process..............
Sep 13, 2006 05:50 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Karl,

Please read the whole thing because we’re not going to get along it you don’t read the end.

Your tongue in cheek rendition of misinformation would be hilarious if so many people didn’t believe it.

"1. ...The interest you pay on a 30 year mortgage is amortized heavily in favor of the bank, especially during the first 10 years. Unless your willing to pay additional principal payments, you will never realize the true APR of the loan you signed. If you look at the actual interest paid, and then compare it to the actual principal, you'll find that your ACTUAL paid annual interest is much higher then 10%, and for every year earlier then 30 years your actual APR goes up significantly. So when someone tries to hang their hat on this rate is better because!!! Maybe...but you really should think about all the extra interest your going to pay every 5 to 7 years."

Amortization is the systemic repayment of principal. It’s not weighted in favor of the bank, you pay more interest in the early years of a loan because you owe more money at that time.

You are right about most people "will never realize the true APR" but paying ahead will raise the true cost of the loan not reduce it. This is not to be confused how much interest expressed in dollars you will pay, you pay less when you pay ahead.

If you want to reduce the "ACTUAL APR" then make one payment each month for 360 months. If you want to save dollars pay in advance, the earlier you reduce the principal the less dollars you’ll have to pay.

The rest of this paragraph reads like nonsensical sound bites.

"#2 Most mortgage lenders don't even fill out their forms correctly."

I can only speak for mortgage brokers, and you’re right but the software they use to generate the forms corrects it.

#3. I’m not going to address this. You know your local market. I do worry about such sinisizim it’s often used to justify their own bad behavior. I don’t believe anyone who cares enough to post the problem is personal evil.

"#4. You’re absolutely right. More importantly it shows you’ve thought about and are concerned about your clients.

The next paragraphs continue to show your thoughtfulness and compassion, well done. You could work for me either as a rep. or as my rep. you recognized the problem and pointed it out, that is integrity! By the way most of our regulators don’t know as much about APR as you do.

For the recorded I was a banker when this was implemented, the original law was three (3) pages and came with over three thousand (3,000+) pages of regulation, HUD didn’t understand it then and they’ve gotten worse.

Karl, if you’ll e-mail me your mailing address I’ll send you the CD version of my book "Get The Money / A Consumers Guide To A Successful Mortgage Application." You don’t need most of it but the "Good Faith & Truth In Lending" chapters may be interesting.

Bill

William J Archambault Jr

The Real Estate Investment Institute

www.reii.org Wja@reii.org

Sep 13, 2006 01:35 PM
Brian Brady
Matthews Capital Markets - Tampa, FL
858-699-4590

Karl,

I use the TIL program in my LOS to help me sell deals.  I remind people that APR is determined not by the gov't standards (on a fll amortization) but when the loan is paid off.  Now, we know that people sell every 5-7 years but did you know that the average loan gets paid off (through a refi) every 3 years?

Figure your APRs with a 5 year balloon and figure your competitiors with a 5 year balloon,  You'll knock the clients' socks off and your competitior won't know what you're talking about. 

Sep 13, 2006 06:01 PM
Ken Stampe
iBrandPlan.com - Grow your e-Profile & Brand - Dallas, TX
iBrandPlan

Karl,

I read your article and while I agree with most of your salient points there is one suggestion and one concept I wanted to point out.

The problem I've always had with the APR is that it is worthless in and of itself. The APR is designed to express the cost of the loan in percentage terms to make it easier for the consumer to compare loan programs between lenders. The key component is having more than one estimate to compare. Most of the time, a home buyer asks "what's your rate" of 10 lenders and then picks one. The end result is they only get one Truth in Lending (TIL) statement and one APR. This then confuses them because they can't understand why you said the rate was 6.00% and the APR shows 6.178%

I've explained to many clients over the years that the APR would be more helpful if it were described in units of bananas instead of percentage. So while I may quote 6.00% and you may quote 5.875% if your loan had an APR of 6.40 bananas and mine was 6.30 bananas then obviously the customer would be more bananas to do business with you.

Lastly, the one suggestion I have is to post blogs that are critical of our profession to the "members only" section. It makes your blog take on a more negative tone and that dilutes the value of your points. The public has plenty of lender bashing resources on the internet and this community is one place where we should be a source of pointing out the positives.

Ken Stampe   HomeLoanDFW.com

Sep 14, 2006 04:04 PM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Karl....for the most part, I thought it was very well written and thought out.

In regards to Bill's comment about your comment that the banks like the 30 yr mortgage. I will have to agree with KARL. Banks pay you a less YSP on arms now because of 2 reasons. The value is less in the short term rates and because most people that want some type of arm plan on refinancing down the road. Or selling their house. Sure, we can't predict the furture.....but the lender won't make as money on the interest of this loan. Yes, they love if you take the 30 yr fixed and keep it for 5 to 6 years. They made a lot of money on interest. Look at a true 30 year amort.....  look at when you start to pay off more principal than interest. What is it.... 17 to 19 years later? 

I do agree though....this might have been a good blog for members only. And if you wanted the public to read this.....to have toned it down in some areas. But overall....again, I thought the points made were done well and made sense. But maybe more so because we are in the business....  lol

Karl....keep in touch.

jeff

Oct 05, 2006 04:10 PM