To Summarize: Inspectors & Parents-----they are both nit pickers!

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Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

     If you have sent your kids to public school you know what I am talking about.  Sooner or later parents become nit pickers.  So----sooner or later----as an inspector, I am going to be a "nit picker" as well----well not the same kind----hopefully.

     I don't go out of my way to be a nit picker----sometimes it just happens.  I think the kind of nit picker that most agents have a problem with is when those seemingly unimportant items end up in the "Summary of Significant Findings" section of the report.  This is "bad form"----as Captain Hook would say.  While this stuff should be mentioned in the context of general "information" about the home, placing it in the Summary gives it "weight" that it doesn't deserve.

     Take for example this P-trap connection on a Garbage disposal.

Improper P-trap on Disposal/sink 

     At first glance it looks sort of normal.  But actually it is installed backwards. 

     The next couple of pictures will help explain what is wrong with this installation.  Traps are engineered to be self scouring (cleaning) by virtue of their shape.  Note how in the top picture the flow of water enters from the sink (disposal in this case) at Point C and the blue arrow.  The force of the flow of water accelerates when it hits the bottom helping it flow up and over the hill and down the drain at the left blue arrow.  In the bottom picture we can see that when the trap is installed "backwards" the distance labeled "B" is much greater than distance "A"-----a much higher hill for the water to get over.  It also doesn't have the help of acceleration provided by its being installed the other way.  The flow of water is actually reduced because the flow of water runs into a more vertical wall in the lower installation.

 Proper trap installation 

     So what will happen if this is not fixed?  Well eventually the trap will clog up with debris and water will just not drain properly.  It isn't a difficult fix---something any plumber can do when they are at the home for other reasons or something that even a knowledgeable homeowner or other qualified repair person can fix.

     I think I won't be putting this on the summary.

 

Charles Buell

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Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
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If that's a "P" trap, why does it look like a "U?"

Dec 16, 2008 11:41 AM #13
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Jay Markanich
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Sorry, Charles, I couldn't resist...

Dec 16, 2008 11:41 AM #14
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Steven L. Smith
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As many of you know, Mr Charles is away in Florida. Despite the fact he criticizes me, I am publicly announcing that, while he is away, he had put me in charge of answering all of his blog comments and also running Charles Buell Inspections for a few days.

Yours Sincerely,

Nutsy

Dec 16, 2008 02:18 PM #15
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Jay Markanich
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So, Nutsy, why does it look like a "U?"

Great flashlight, by the way - do you let your light so shine?  (Check my previous blog post...)

P.s.  Does "Mr. Charles" know about this, um, substitute teaching...?

Dec 16, 2008 06:05 PM #16
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Frank Torre
Torre Inspection Service, LLC 888-202-8869 - Hicksville, NY

Hi: Charles another great post filled with good info.

Dec 16, 2008 09:15 PM #17
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Alan May
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Jay... in answer to your question... turn the photo of the trap (the configuaration ones), 90 degrees counter clockwise.   :-)

Dec 17, 2008 01:22 AM #18
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James Quarello
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I agree that you should try and not make mountains out of mole hills, but the client ultimately decides what's important to them in the context of the inspection. I'm sure we all have stories of a buyer who was troubled by some, to us, seemingly insignificant issue. Also some buyer in my experience are the worst nit pickers of all.

Dec 17, 2008 03:46 AM #19
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Jay Markanich
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Wow, I turned it and it's a "J" !!

Dec 17, 2008 09:39 AM #20
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Barbara S. Duncan
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Now I guess I'll have to start checking pee traps!  Having a good vacation????

Dec 17, 2008 12:55 PM #21
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Steven L. Smith
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Mr Buell,

Please call the office. I am in crisis.

Your assistant manager in charge

Nutsy

Dec 17, 2008 02:53 PM #22
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Sorry all----finally catching up on my comments:)

Cynthia, I am careful to make sure the buyer is aware that the summary is my opinion and they many very well think things are more important and deserve to be in the summary.

Jack, yes, all the pictures I sue are my own (except for a few I occassionally liberate from Steve:)

Sandy, that is so dool to have my post actually turn out to be useful to you.

Jay----real good question:)

Nutsy----what can I say except what everyone already knows----that you are nuts!

Frank, thanks

Alan----good idea:)

James----so true

Jay----gotta love the "Jay" traps:)

Barbara---great vacation---even got some photos of Pee-traps

Nutsy----you wouldn't know who you are if it weren't for crisis.

Dec 26, 2008 05:49 AM #23
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Erby Crofutt
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Poor Sandy doesn't realize the greatest frustration of her situation lies ahead of her.

Knowledge is the easy part.

Spur to action by the boyfried is a big hill to climb!

Dec 28, 2008 11:21 AM #24
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Erby, in my experience women are very powerful when it comes to getting things done:)

Dec 28, 2008 11:29 AM #25
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Erby Crofutt
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ONLY, did I say ONLY, if you want what they withhold!

Here's a sample of that in action but it is ADULT in nature.  Don't whine to me if you click on it and get offended.

http://b4uclose.tripod.com/stuff/lifecontrol.jpg

 

Dec 29, 2008 01:15 AM #26
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Erby, my wife thought she was going to have to call an ambulance after that one----but they would have to take both of us away for dying of laughter.

Dec 29, 2008 01:55 AM #27
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James Quarello
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Erby that is hilarious! And oh so true.

Dec 29, 2008 02:48 AM #28
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Erby Crofutt
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James, it's only true if you want it to be.

Charles:  I'm glad it didn't come to actually calling the ambulance!

While it's adult "R" it is very humorous!  Did you know you can track the number of clicks on stuff like that.  Quite a few looked but didn't comment!

Dec 30, 2008 02:12 AM #29
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Erby you replied: James, it's only true if you want it to be.  ----I am not so sure:)

Still laughing here!

Dec 30, 2008 02:22 AM #30
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Erby Crofutt
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Well, that's because YOU want it!  Keep laughing.  It's healthy for you.

Jan 01, 2009 01:37 PM #31
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Still laughing here Erby:)

Jan 01, 2009 01:42 PM #32
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