These sad and shocking statistics came out today about Bay Area home prices, further tarnishing what was once some of the most coveted (and most expensive) real estate in the country: The median price for a home in the Bay Area has plunged an astounding 44.4% from November 2007 to November 2008.

Also shocking: 47.6% of Bay Area homes that sold in November had been in foreclosure at one point during the previous 12 months.

And the last statistic, not that shocking because I am, after all, in the mortgage business: 20.6% of loans were FHA loans. Last year in November that figure was less than 1%.

And then there was the good news...a little light shining at the end of this long dark tunnel?

Rates have dropped. Significantly.

They are at a 37 year LOW. I locked my very first loan EVER that started with a "4", as in 4.75% (also shocking..to me, anyway) In late November the Federal Reserve moved to purchase as much as $600 billion of mortgage related securities, which has helped rates move lower.

My readers know I am not one to spew statistics without seizing the irresistible opportunity to dish up some advice. Here is my take on some BIG opportunities that will develop in 2009:

 

The BULLISH:

First time buyers and FHA loans: here is a window of opportunity that may never ever exist again. 
Severely deflated prices, low rates, and a way to buy with only 3.5% down. If you don't have the down and the closing costs, go ask Mom and Dad to gift you the down, and write an offer asking the seller to pay your closing costs (up to 6%).
Bay Area real estate is still Bay Area real estate. The price will rise again and you do not want to be someone who missed the greatest opportunity to "GET IN" that may exist for the next 50 years. 
Holders of adjustable rate mortgages: You must move quickly to refinance into a 30 year fixed rate mortgage! Why quickly? If values fall in 2009 as quickly and as far as they did in 2008, you may not have enough equity to refinance (unless you can throw in some random cash).
 This is a way to eliminate your risk of the market taking a turn for the better (which will cause rates to go up). You do not want to be caught with an adjustable when this market turns around....dangerous and risky. Rates ARE LOW ENOUGH!!!!

Holders of cash from stock portfolio liquidations: Do you see from the statistics above how many people are renting because they lost their homes to a foreclosure? These people will be renting for years to come from damaged credit.

If you have ever considered owning rental property, this is a window of opportunity.
Yes, you will need a down payment. Yes you will need to prove your income. Three words: INSTANT CASH FLOW


Buyers of second homes: Areas where there are concentrations of second homes always suffer the most in times of recessions. People will "let go" of a second home before they will let go of their primary residence. If you will be retiring in the next 10 years, buy it now and use it as the retirement house in 10 years. (You can still write off a second home)

The BEARISH:


Jumbo loans:
Ugh! Not pretty.

Although the conforming loan limit will be $625,500 beginning next year, ("jumbo" is anything higher than this amount) any loan above this only has a decent interest rate if it is an adjustable. Fixed rate mortgages above this carry a stiff premium above conforming loans that most people are just not willing to pay.

If you have a jumbo adjustable that will re-set in 2009 you might consider refinancing into another 5-7 year adjustable. This will give you the security of FIXING YOUR RATE, hopefully for enough time until the jumbo situation works itself out.


Those hoping to modify their loans: What a hopelessly messy and confusing situation! Half of November's loan modifications increased the monthly payments and half added fees and interest to the principal!

"Loan modification" companies are cropping up everywhere...preying on homeowners in distress.

Loans that were modified are going into foreclosure anyway.

People hoping to get their loans modified are discontinuing their payments because this is often a requirement of a modification (needlessly ruining their credit for a modification that may never happen)

I suggest you call your bank DIRECTLY and ask for the loan modification department. Trust me, they have one.


Home values will continue downward: Still going down, and still going down quickly. My client purchased her condo for $195,000 last month. Within 2 weeks (before I could close her FHA loan)  the same unit closed for $164,000 as a foreclosure. Appraisal came in at $170,000. Luckily (and because I wrote a long letter) the sellers decided to lower the price to my client and sell for the $170,000. They were smart to take their money and RUN.

 

The point? We can't close loans fast enough to keep up with the plunging prices!

 

Written by Janet Guilbault, Mortgage Lending Specialist based out of the San Francisco Bay Area

 
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39 Comments on 2009: I'm Bullish! I'm Bearish! My Advice? To Cherish ( Some Amazing Opportunites)

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So much great info here I don't know where to begin. 

One thing for sure, there are a lot of folks out there who would love to refinance but cannot because the market value of their home has fallen to a point where it will not appraise. 

At this point, even folks who paid the "sacred" 20% down are upside down.

 

10:41am • #1
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Thanks for the area review. I would agree that complexes with high inventory are suffering downward pressure on prices. I recently took advantage of the market and purchased an investment property. I think there are some amazing deals that just can't be ignored.

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Well, Lenn, here is the way I look at it: I have the opportunity to WARN people of what might happen based on what we now know happened in 2008. I sounded some of these same warnings at the beginning of this year but without statistics to back me up, people took a wait and see attitude, and now regret it.

Those people did lose too much equity to refinance. Those people did have their credit lines frozen. Those people who needed stated income loans can no longer get in the game. These were all cases of the writing was on the wall, and I sounded the alarm.

This year is different because we have solid statistics. I hope there will be less people who get caught in this mess. Time is of the essence.

 

 

11:01am • #3

Wow! YOU have been hit hard in your area....things are wonderful here in the midwest, but our stats are no where near yours.  Good luck in the new year!

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Hi Vicki: Congratulations on your new investment property and simply on having the qualifications to get approved (I assume you did not pay cash). I hope you had a great year, and I still hope we can get together for coffee.....I would love to get your input on the market.

11:03am • #5
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Comment above..no name! Yes we have been hit hard! The bigger they are, the harder they fall? Our real estate will always be valuable...but it is no longer inflated.

11:05am • #6

Hi Janet, thanks for the update.  I live in Alamogordo, NM with a total population of about 40,000.  Seeing the foreclosure numbers and the number of homes that had been in foreclosue at least once is astonishing.  We may have a half dozen foreclosures in our town... sales are down a little compared to the past years, but overall, not too bad.


I really enjoyed your article!

Thanks very much!

Tim Lewis

11:07am • #7

Great article, as a Bay Area REaltor I can agree with everything you say. I would just want to emphasize the Jumbo rates are really affecting this area more than in many parts of the country.

Marcy Moyer Intero Real Estate Menlo Park Ca

11:10am • #8
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Janet - You make some great points for people to consider. Those are some tough statistics for the SF Bay area, similar to many of the high-cost markets still trying to pull through this. With prices in some area now lower than the cost to build the equivalent home, I'd say there are some great opportunities out there for buyers planning to buy and hold, wouldn't you?

11:14am • #9
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Great post Janet,

In follow up to some of your thoughts you might enjoy my latest post about the Top 10 Events of 2009.

Happy holidays

Stefan

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I thought loan modifications were working in that they were slowing foreclosures, however, homeowners (not the fault of banks) were not keeping up their end of the bargain and paying the modified loan amount

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Marcy: I could not agree with you more. In fact, as someone who did mainly jumbo mortgages, it has been horrible to have to abandon that niche. However you could describe my quest to continue specializing in jumbo mortgages as a "beating your head against the wall" exercise.

I believe part of the reason prices have fallen so dramatically here in the Bay Area is that the activity at the top of the market is STALLED due to this situation. We just don't have any houses selling in that segment which has really skewed the numbers.

I will be posting about this in the future, and thank you for your input.

11:29am • #12
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Actually Stefan, I did read your blog and made a comment on it. For the readers of this thread...please do read his post, it is excellent.

My comment said that I felt a very significant event that has had a huge impact is the tightening of lender guidlelines which has keeping millions of potential buyers from having the ability to buy or refinance properties.

11:36am • #13
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Hi Karen: I would say that when real estate is this cheap, why would you build? Not good news for my daughter who is graduating from UCLA with a masters in architecture, huh?

And no, I do not think you should buy with the idea of flipping. I think, like you do, that buying should be a long term strategy for building wealth and lowering taxes. And Lord knows, with these bailouts, we will need shelter from the tax increases that are bound to happen!

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James: I think that we have a long way to go with the so called modification programs. So far, there does not seem to be any slowing of foreclosures. They should help those people that are still current on their mortgages, not those that are 3 months behind.

Too little. Too late.

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Sadly for homeowners, life does go on for REALTORS as you will end up getting more market share in the coming year than you would have in a normal market.  Our market hit that plunge in 2002, and most homes never came back to levels of 2000....and it is 2008.  But, we have been selling homes like gang buster since.....

12:07pm • #16

Thanks for the great insight into the Calif. market.  Everything points to the market coming back with in a year, but considering how far off you say it is, Can it really happen in a year?

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Thanks for your advice .... I'm going to contact my mortgage holder to see if I can improve on my current rate of 6.25% from 2006.  Hopefully I'll get a lower rate!

12:42pm • #18
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Hey Tim..why did your market plunge in 2002? 911? I don't expect our homes to come back to the levels they were before unless the jumbo market comes back. There is a huge pent up demand for the higher priced homes in combination with a real fear of adjustable rate mortgages. Put that together and you have a natural supression of pricing and also numbers that SEEM much worse than they really are.

What I mean is that the reason the price has sunk so low is that we are missing all the homes that used to sell at the top of the market.

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Lubbock: No. It will not come back in a year unless there is some other huge surprise out there for the economy. If it came back that fast, people would be waiting 6 months for financing. There are not enough of us left in this business to compensate for a surge in home sales so great that it would "bid" prices back to pre-bust levels.

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Maureen: My crystal ball says there is a lower rate in your future assuming you do not need a stated income loan (like many of us self employed people used in the good old days.)

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Janet - another key to kickstarting the market will be when these kinds of rates attract investors who will buy up the lower priced homes and just tear them down and sit on the land for 5 years or so - then rebuild bigger and better and reap the rewards. Not everyone is thinking of the purchase as a "now" issue - so we really need to get INVESTORS off teh sidelines as much as homebuyers (residents).

A good way to do this would be to get Congress to reduce capital gains taxes.... but the President elect prefers we all pick up a shovel and build new roads....

Oh well!

Matthew

2:36pm • #22

Janet -- we have been fortunate at Legends Resort (Myrtle Beach, SC) we have comps to back up the sales -- With FHA reverting back to the 4 property rule has thrown a kink in a couple of our sales in progress -- Best of Luck in the New Year

4:31pm • #23

Its sad to see the west Coast is as bad as the East. Then again, it seems that all that is good starts on the West Coast and works its way here and its only fitting than bad trends follow. Home prices in Rhode Island are falling faster than the temperatures.

Please remember I pay a 30% referral fee if you have anyone moving to RI!!

Happy Holidays!!

Chet

Keller Williams Realty

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4:37pm • #24

Thanks for the great info.  I only hope the low interest rates are the beginning of a stabilizing market.

Here's to hoping you have a Happy Holiday Season.

 

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Marie: I am holding on to whatever scrap of good news I can. But rates alone cannot stop the foreclosures which are bleeding all the equity out of California properties. We need to get a grip on this.

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Hi Chet: I always use Rainers when making a referral. And I love my East Coast buds. Thanks for your comment ....seems both coasts have taken a very hard hit. I hear you have some BAD weather there today...whenever I call the east coast I keep getting recordings about severe wheather. What gives?

I thought it was cold today. It was 50 degrees. (and sunny)

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Fantastic post!  I wish I was a first time home buyer right now -- there may not be a situation like this for another 25 - 30 years! 

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Hi Janet, I appreciate the snapshop of your area's market. I've been telling my clients that if they have a sob this is the absolute best time to get a property!

7:55pm • #29
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Great analysis of your area. You sure put a lot into this snapshot and I would think there is a lot to be taken from it.

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I just wrote a blog about this about 10 minuts ago. I was thinking about calling all my clients to advise them of the saving thay could have. All your past buyers will be glad to hear from you as well. You will have to check it out. Never write as well as you so I have to put a cute photo on each blog. Here the values in the areas I work have been steady since 2004 then we live in another world but its dry now.

New Orleans Interest Rates Crash! 

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Great post - great ideas and tips as well in regard to taking advantage of the rates !

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Eric: Great graph, thank you...we mortgage brokers continue to say these 2 words in a whisper to each other "Refi boom?"

We have had such a stuggle, and never know what to expect next. Almost like saying it would be bad luck.

Still, hope springs eternal! Nice to hear from you.

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Eric: I just read your blog and think it is fabulous. I love your tomato site and want to talk to you about mine. It has languished and one of my goals for 2009 is the revive it. Your is just great. Are you going to the sugar bowl? Someone in my office is the mother to one of Utah's coaches and I am jealous because she will be there.

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Thanks, Janet. I appreciate it. What all this tells me is we still have a ways to go. I believe 2009 will be slightly better than '08. It has to be; 2008 was a really tough year. Call me the eternal optimist but I think the mortgage business will see a slight uptick by Spring or Summer of 2009. It would be nice to see the buyers return to the marketplace.

10:01am • #36

Janet, it so unfortunate that values are still falling in many areas. Even with great rates some people are still trapped. Let's hope that this will eventually "stop" and start a rebound for everyone. Lower rates will hopefully bring more buyers out and get people in the mindset to do something rather than continue to sit and wait.

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Paul: For me, 2008 was a year of turmoil as I stuck with my former company probably too long. The distraction of trying to work in that environment  (of a company ready to close its doors) took a huge hit on my business.

Then there was the learning curve of EVERYONE in the Bay Area in the real estate business who had no idea how to do FHA loans, and were not set up to do them. Now we are.

That is all behind me now and just the knowledge of where we have landed after this crisis gives me hope that 2009 will be far more successful.

There will be plenty of first time buyers even if rates go higher. If rates stay low there will be lots of refi's. There is a great need out there for good solid mortgage brokers who know how to get loans funded.

All of these things to me add up to be a good 2009.

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Eric:  Lower rates are bringing people out here in our market. Not so much to buy. But to refi.

The way I see it we are caught in a loop of values going down because of foreclosures, foreclosures happening because of low values.

Something needs to break the loop.

 

 

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