I was browsing my news sites, as usual in the evenings, and came across an article discussing the irregularities in decisions made by the Canvassing Board in Minnesota, regarding how votes are counted in the long-running U.S. Senate recount that pits Norm Coleman vs. Al Franken.  It would seem that the board is rather biased and inconsistent.  Check out the article for yourself here.  If what this article says is true, it just goes to show you how we truly can't trust that the people on capitol hill are there fairly or legally.

 
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9 Comments on Is Coleman Being Unfairly Edged Out by Franken-friendly Canvassing Board?

DEC
22

Some of those decisions I could easily go along with.  But the inconsistency is UNBELIEVABLE!  "Franken-friendly" seems like a significant understatement given the evidence.

8:12pm • #1
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Patrick, come on here.  Do you know how many law suits Coleman filed to get the counting stopped?  Why infer the canvassing board is biased when the right thing to do is count all the votes?  We already had votes thrown out when the Supreme Court ruled vote counting in Florida had to stop in 2000, mine was one of those.  EVERY vote, if questionable should be looked at closely, for every vote in this country should count.  I highly doubt we'd be having this discussion if Colman was in the lead.

8:26pm • #2

Was Coleman's goal in filing those law suits to merely stop votes from getting counted, or could it possibly be that he wanted to assure that before votes were recounted, there was an agreed-upon criteria for deciding how votes would count?  Maybe, just maybe, he wanted to assure that the inconsistency (demonstrated so well by the article Patrick linked to) would not occur.

We would undoubtedly be having this discussion if Coleman was in the lead due to inconsistency in decisions during the recount.  Only the roles would have changed.

But Terry is right... if Coleman was clearly in the lead dispite an extremely biased canvassing board's decisions to miraculously "find" votes in favor of Franken and inconsistently rule the majority of questionable votes either against Coleman or for Franken, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Why waste time, money, and energy pointing out completely ineffective vote-fraud?

But with pretty substantial evidence of vote-fraud, count on this going to court.

9:35pm • #3
DEC
23

A lot of the "stolen election" talk traces back to John Lott. John Lott has been famously wrong before, and he's wrong again on Coleman-Franken.

http://www.minnpost.com/braublog/2008/12/22/5476/john_lott_wrong_again

http://www.minnpost.com/braublog/2008/12/19/5441/recount_how_lott_misleads

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/11/17/franken/

John Emerson
9:25am • #4
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Patrick,

What truly disturbs me is that Francken wasable to get any votes at all. They should just have a runoff election. Without Obama on the top of the ticket Coleman wins hands down

10:00am • #5
JAN
04

Hugh - I certainly agree, it is ridiculous that so many people would vote for a guy like Franken.  The world we live in I suppose. 

John - Thanks for the opposing view.

David & Terry - I certainly agree that we wouldn't be having this conversation if Coleman held a significant lead.  The point is, that if there is such a slim margin, this inconsistency MUST be addressed, regardless of who it benefits.

4:28pm • #6
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Patrick - I agree with you, but there have been many incidents of voter fraud from both sides of the aisle.

The early discussions in the news talked about "new" batches of votes discovered in parts of the state that struck me as statistically impossible.  In an election that had razor thin margins in all areas of the state, there were batches of new votes reported that were overwhelmingly for Mr Franken. 

I am usually pretty tolerant of people I disagree with but I am originally from Minnesota and Al Franken is an embarassment to me as the Senator from my former state.  That is, of course, only my opinion.

This one is headed for the courts.  We shall see.

10:32pm • #7
JAN
07

hi, Patrick:
Thanks for pointing out this article.  It's my belief that this story is not getting the news coverage it deserves because of the Gov. Blageovich scandal.  And the only reason he's getting media attention is because it was the seat belonging to the President Elect.

Stuart Smalley has always come off as a schmuck to me.  His failure to be successful on the radio left him no choice but to run for office. 

Sorry to have to sat this Ted, but Minnesota's going to get what they deserve.  Sadly, I feel this is true across the country.  Not just picking on Minnesota here. 

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8:26am • #8

Patrick,  This whole thing is way out of hand, there are many area's where more votes have been counted than people actually voting on election day, consequently, we have fraud and mistakes.  We have good people in most voting places in MN, but at this point the gloves need to come off.  Now it will be up to the Court to review the votes.  The day right after the election Norm Coleman was leading by 700 votes, to close to call, now he is losing.  Something is not right with the system.  Just my two cents.

 

Jim Fogarty
9:17am • #9

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