LOCKBOXES, or should I say, the lack of using one!

THE PET-PEEVE:  If I can name one thing that bugs me the most when it comes to real estate, it's a vacant property not having a lockbox.

Last week, our friend Charles McDonald of Charlottesville, VA posted, Where's the Key, which got me going on this subject.

THE EXPLANATION:  Allow me to first introduce, THE LOCKBOX

Essentially, a lockbox is a "safe" for the property's key.

Supra type LockboxesToula Rosebrock - Lockbox

Most are pre-programmed to only open from 7:00am to 9:00pm or 7:30 to 9:00pm

They can be re-programmed to allow showings during certain times, if needed.

They can be programmed  to require an additional security code, called a CBS code.  Without the CBS code, it cannot be accessed.   It's like an additional password,  (you need to turn the CBS status ON).

By checking the lockbox on-line, the listing agent can see who accessed the property including the date & time.

Agents can program the website to send a notification via e-mail, when a lockbox has been accessed.

THE PROBLEM:  In addition to having them for a vacant property, let's not forget the homeowner who is not always home and gives their agent a key....

We hear; "the homeowner won't be home, so you can pick up the key here".  If the homeowner has given the agency a key to give out, why not place it safely in a lockbox...

How ridiculous; for an agent to need to go to each listing office, wait around to track down the key, run to the property, then need to bring the key back.

How many times have we gone to the listing office and

  • the key is missing
  • the key is out
  • the previous agent forgot to return it
  • the previous agent lost the key
  • the listing office is closed!

THE CONFRONT - MY RESPONSE:

When I've confronted these listing agents that requiring a key pick-up/drop-off, they say:

It's safer..  Are you kidding me?  You're telling me that your homeowner feels safer with ME carrying their house key in MY vehicle or in MY BUYER'S vehicle or AT OTHER PROPERTIES...

We need to track the showings?  Lockboxes track showings on their own...imagine that, technology!

We want to CONTROL the showings?  Control them?  What exactly are you controlling?

The homeowner doesn't want anyone coming in un-annouced- Yes, I can certainly understand that.  So in that case, don't note the lockbox on the listing.  "Call listing office for instructions" would work in that instance.

The homeowner doesn't  want that bulky thing on their door - OK, then place it on the railing, fence, backdoor, side door or anywhere at the property.

The homeowner doesn't like lockboxes - Did you fully explain it to them and include the advantages with the disadvantages of them?

What if an agent loses their lockbox computer keypad - each agent has their special code for their keypad, plus the keypad needs to be updated daily in order to operate.

The town won't allow it - WHAT?  then I need to see the zoning codes in that town.

Showings for that property are restricted, we don't want certain agencies to show our listings - so you're punishing the rest of us.  Anyway, is that legal in the first place?

We don't have lockboxes at our agency - then tell your Broker to contact the board and buy them.

THE "REAL" REASON/PROBLEM:  When it comes to vacant properties and sellers that allow key access, there are 5 REAL reasons why lockboxes are not used by some agencies:

  1. These agents want to sell the property themselves (having both sides of the transaction) making it difficult for outside agents.
  2. They would prefer agents from their own office to sell the property, in-house deal, (again, having both sides of the transaction, making showing difficult for outside agents).
  3. They will not spend the money to buy the lockboxes.
  4. The listing agent did not take the time to explain what a lockbox is, or how it works to a seller.
  5. OR, the listing agent doesn't know how the lockbox works or benefits sellers.

THE FACTS:  Not having a lockbox at the property puts the seller at a huge disadvantage.  Some agents will not show properties, if they need to pick up and drop off the key. There are so many properties on the market, agents can afford to skip the properties that are difficult to show.

I always use lockboxes.  My personal feeling is that; "I don't care what agent brings in the buyer, as long as the property sells, that is my objective".

Properties needs to be accessible! 

There are thousands of agents out there, they should all have easy access to show and sell each property.

THE SOLUTION:  My suggestion is to have the Real Estate boards require a seller to sign off on a form, if a lockbox is not being used.

This form should outline the advantages of having them, and clearly outline the disadvantages when they are not used.

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THE CONCLUSION:  Our local board here in NJ requires special forms for an exclusive listing that's not going into the mls system, because it's places the seller at a disadvantage.

As far as I'm concerned, not having a lockbox falls under the same category.

 
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80 Comments on MY Real Estate PET-PEEVE

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Good point and shared frustration as well.  I'm afraid like many good ideas it will fall to the wayside.  Hang in there and maybe your thoughts will touch a guilty party who will pay more attention.

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I completely agree, and know it is very frustrating!  I like your last point as well...

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Thanks for the mention. As you know I totally agree with you!!!

Merry Christmas!

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7:49am • #3
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Hi Connie -   Thanks...let's hope that someone is listening!

Hi Kristin - Very frustrating!  Thank you!

Hi Charles - Thank you!  You got me going on this one. Plus, I had to pick up a key this past weekend on a vacant home again...

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  • These agents want to sell the property themselves (having both sides of the transaction) making it difficult for outside agents.
  • They would prefer agents from their own office to sell the property, in-house deal, (again, having both sides of the transaction, making showing difficult for outside agents).
  • They will not spend the money to buy the lockboxes.
  • The listing agent did not take the time to explain what a lockbox is, or how it works to a seller.
  • OR, the listing agent doesn't know how the lockbox works or benefits sellers.
  • I would add have a pet buyer client
  • None of these are in the best interest of the seller.  I couldn't agree more, sorry I couldn't resist adding my pet-peeve. 

    7:52am • #5
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    I agree with Mark, no lockbox only serves the Realtor not the customer.

    8:16am • #7
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    I must admit that I pass on over homes that dont have a lock box. I dont have time to pick up and return keys. Put a lock box on!

    8:28am • #9
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    Some scenarios where there is not a lock box are  ridiculous. 1. The agent wants control. 2. there is not a free one at the office. When we list a property and the owners are reluctatnt, we tell them to keep it inside and only put it out when someone calls to show the home.

    8:29am • #10
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    Hi Laura - Thank you for being honest and sharing...

    Hi Frank & Jodi - Exactly...thanks for responding...

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    8:32am • #11
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    Can the agent also state where the lockbox is located. We have some locations that are out in the sticks, and hunting and searching takes time. The other suggestion is when you go to locate the lockbox and there are eighteen on the same rail system ---- make yours stand out.

    8:42am • #12
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    I sometimes work in a small town here, where the real estate company does that, it drives me crazy....to add another layer to my tour..then I had to go in the office and wait 20 minutes for the secretary to find the key......now they are converting our lockboxes to the new ones, so we don't even have them right now..

    8:53am • #14
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    Hi Konnie:

    Right...And gas isn't cheap...nor is putting mileage on your vehicle!

     

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    8:57am • #15
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    I think the bottom line here is that weak agents don't have lockboxes or even keys to their listings and strong agents do.

    A pet peeve of mine is also combination lockboxes. Those things are hard to operate, especially in bad weather or after dark.

    10:10am • #16
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    Hi Jim - I don't like the combo's either.  Anyone can access properties at any time as long as they know the combination.  Thanks for adding that...

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    10:13am • #17

    Don't forget those that have SEVERAL UNMARKED keys in the lockbox... Because it's always fun to keep a client on the steps while you play, "Which key will it be???"

    10:24am • #18
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    Guess we have it pretty good in our area.  The GE electronic boxes are used at the vast majority of listings here.  Combination boxes can be found...typically at REO properties.  Most of the listings that have no keysafe are "higher end" properties and also carry the restriction of "Listing Agent must be present at all showings"

    10:37am • #20
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    Hi Chuck - That's great...you're area does it right!  Thanks for responding.

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    10:47am • #21

    I completely agree with you.  Lockboxes were invented and implemented for a reason; to make an agent's job easier!  If sellers want their house sold quicker, if at all, a lockbox is necessary!

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    I think having a lockbox is a definite must! Thank you for sharing that blog with us! I hope you have a great day and Happy Holidays!

    11:18am • #24
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    Hi James - Thanks for reading it and responding!  Happy Holidays to you as well...

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    11:33am • #25
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    We have an agent in town that has about 20 listings and they are all on combo lockboxes.  Getting the number from the agent is like pulling teeth.  Now that a buyer's agent has the combo, there is major risk of passing the combo to clients.  It is absolutely rediculous.  He has a listing in my neighborhood with a combo box and no sign and we wonder why it has been on the market for 8 months.  There are so many bozos in this business it is amazing how they survive.

    11:37am • #27
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    Toula.. Key pick up/drop off.  What part of the boonies and decade are these realtors in?  All our listing MUST have lock boxes.. it is the only way I'll take a listing.  Face it.. if the sellers want to sell in this day and age, there is nothing more efficient.

    valerie osterhoudt

    11:48am • #28
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    Hi Tim - Isn't it unbelievable!!!

    Hi Valerie - You got it...you are absolutely right!  We actually have two island communities (both are very large) and no agencies there use lockboxes at all.  In order to show properties, you have to stop at multiple agencies.....I just don't get it...

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    12:02pm • #29
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    Toula...

    HAh! You made the front page! Congrats on the Gold Star and a wonderful post in a fun format! Very well done!

    12:28pm • #30
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    I like the Supra lock boxes and all the features they provide. Even at that, I have had sellers lock the storm door which prevented access (to the entrance door and the lockbox itself) by the showing agent. Then sometimes we have to put combo boxes on as well in order to allow contractors to access the property.

    12:58pm • #31
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    Hi Richard - Thank you, it was great to make the front page!

    Hi Jim - Yes, I've had that happen as well with the storm doors...

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    1:06pm • #32

    I agree, I agree!! Every house needs a lockbox.  I must be honest and say that I have one listing without a lockbox.  The sellers insisted that they must be present for every showing, they restrict the showing hours, they won't allow showings during their meal times or showings early in the morning (9-11am is early to them).  I am beginning to think that letting this listing go may be the answer. I wanted to help these sellers achieve their dreams as I do all sellers and buyers but they are making my job so difficult.  I have sat down with the sellers and explained the advantages but they still refuse to use a lockbox.  They have asked for additional marketing sources (ones that I know won't work anyway) and I told them that until they make their home more accessible I cannot spend more money on  additionals marketing to only have them turn down the request for showings (which they have done about 1/2 of the showings) or not be home to let the buyers in.  The sellers won't even give me a key to meet the buyers and their agent.  I just don't understand the motivation of the sellers or should I say the lack of motivation.  In all discussion with the sellers they have a plan and really seem like moving is what they want to do and need to do but their actions say something different. 

    Cynthia
    1:08pm • #33

    Toula - We've yet to come across a home with out a lock box - usually Supra.  Typically REO homes will have some type of combo box and there are so many different types it can be like working a puzzle to get the keys.  A pet peeve though is when showing condos that have parking gates or restricted access gates and you need some code to open it - they'll leave the * or # that you need after the number off of the showing notes or something like that and you have to call the agent (will they answer? I doubt it!) while you're stuck at the gate unable to get through. - parking lots with toll tag style gate readers? no key pad? I got into a parking lot Sat because a car was pulling out, little did I know I wouldn't be able to get back out!!!

    B

    3:10pm • #34
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    That is absolutely the worse thing.  It makes no sense whatsoever to make extra work for the agent except to prove just how lazy you can be by not providing a lockbox.  You really just make it harder for an agent to show your property, making your chances of selling it smaller and smaller.

    Kathy

    3:20pm • #35
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    Last week I had to remove one of my combo boxes that was placed to allow contractors to enter the property. Several days of rain allowed water to enter the shackle part, and then when temperature dropped, the water froze into ice in the bottom of the box. I could open the key container part, but the lift lever was frozen into the solid ice and it took me a long time to melt the ice and remove the lock.

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    Congrats on the "Featured" !!!

    Merry Christmas!

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    4:07pm • #37

    Excellent points! In the market that I work in, there are areas that do and do not use electronic lockboxes. Agents working the Beach area have a history of using Combo boxes. In my primary area agents do use a Supra, so those agents coming from the beach can't get in, although we are all affiliated with the same board. I have had to jump through a few hoops to open a house for those agents without a Supra Key, which I will do for the benefit of my sellers, but if you are going to do a job, you really need the tools. There is no good reason not to use electronic lockboxes. Expense doesn't count. Unfortunately, if I have a listing in one of these areas, I have to use a combo, although I typically add a Supra as well, because I like the tracking features. As for a seller that won't allow it, if after a careful explanation of the benefits and safety of using one they still will not agree, perhaps that is not a listing that I am willing to take.

    And for Cynthia above... you have what I call a non-saleable listing. At least it falls under the criteria that I use when assessing if I want to take a listing or not, which is...are the homeowners going make the house available to be shown. Can't sell it if no one sees it. You are right to place a limit on your marketing expense if they are going limit you as they have. I probably would not have taken this listing, if they expressed such limitations at the outset. Good luck!

    4:14pm • #38
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    Last week I had to do an interior BPO. The listing agent didn't have a lockbox, didn't have a key and didn't know the code to the community gate. A week later I'm still wondering what the heck was going on.

    4:36pm • #39

    Great Post- Now if you can only get ALL the  Island agencies to listen to you!

    Merry Christmas- your friend

    Pattie

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    5:18pm • #40
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    I totally agree with your post. Some sellers want more control over who goes in and out of their home. They are not educated on the system. I use GE lockboxes too, but they are $90 a piece. Maybe some firms don't want to pay that. 

    7:07pm • #42
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    Is a great idea to have the seller sign a form.  It is amazing the difficulty for showings for properties like this !  Is totally ludicrous when it comes up !

    7:11pm • #43

    99% of listing agents in my immediate market use supra lock boxes.  About once a year, I will run in to a 30 year dial combo (high school locker)...Those are annoying to me just as asking for the key from the listing agent.

    7:37pm • #44

    The old combo ones are a safety issue; they have the easiest passwords to guess.  I agree no lock box would put a seller at a disadvantage and they may not realize it.

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    No lockboxes in New York City, I show anytime I can.  Getting those exclusions is always a little bit tricky, always want to make sure you are following all of the guidelines in your local area.

    8:26pm • #46
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    Hi Cynthia - Oh boy, present at all showings...that's a tough one!

    Hi Brian & Marie - It's always something!  Thanks for adding your gated community fiasco!

    Hi Kathy - Exactly...thank you for responding.

    Hi Jim - I guess we should now carry de-icers!

    Hi again Charles - Thank you...how about that!

    Hi No-Name - I wish you had your name on your response, you make some very good points!!!

    Hi Dena - Sounds like the agent doesn't have a clue!!!

    Hey Pattie - How are you?  Geez, LBI...I rarely see a lockbox there!  Merry Christmas.... 

    Hi Alan - And thank you!

    Hi Sandy - Yes, they are expensive, but we all agree that it's part of doing business...Thanks!

    Hi Christopher & Stephanie - Thanks for responding and agreeing with me!

    Hi Mindy & Jay - Wow...99%, that's excellent...I would say, less than 50% here.

    Hi Lauren - Thank you for responding!

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    8:52pm • #47
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    I once had an agent that expected me to drive 20 mles to pick up a key.  Pretty ridiculous!  Needless to say, that house didn't get shown by me.

    9:05pm • #48
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    I agree 100% My other pet peeve is when you put a lockbox on and the realtor doesn't have a lockbox key because it is too expensive.  You are either in the business or not!! Get the tools you need.

    9:07pm • #49
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    Toula OHH that is a big pet peeve of mine to.  I went recently to some new construction and the appointment desk and everyone was under the impression (since the agent had turned it in that way) that the home had a Supra E-Box on it.  We get there and NOTHING.  Of course early it was cold I am hunting all around the home thinking they put it here or there and NOTHING.  I called and was told OOOHHH I am so sorry I was planning on being there to show your buyer around.  I was so mad.  I called the builder and gave him an ear full. 

    9:12pm • #50
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    Hi Diane - Thanks for sharing that, how ridiculous, right?

    Hi Lesley - Yes, that's a good one too!!!

    Hi Larry - I'm sure you gave him an ear full...

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    9:22pm • #51
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    Toula, I could not agree with you more. I am so uninterested in picking up a key in someone's office, not because I am lazy but, as I am sure you would agrere, it's ridiculous and a complete waste of my time. Thanks for your post.

    9:57pm • #52
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    Hi Barb - Absolutely, a complete waste of time & totally unnecessary!  Thanks for responding...

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    10:25pm • #53
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    Toula - I agree that having to go pick up the key is a hassle, but I'd make a different point. If I were selling my home, I wouldn't want my agent NOT to be present. So you can stop by at your convenience, and my agent will have the key with them.

    Why do I want my agent present? Because with all due respect to showing agents, you don't know anything about the listing except the tinybits of "data" that are on the MLS listing sheets. IF you went to the broker caravan, you might have met the listing agent who told you what makes the house special and the details that don't fit on the listing sheet. However, only a small fraction of agents go on the broker tour. The rest just show up at showings and say, "Isn't this nice. Spacious. Oh, lovely..."

    If I hire a selling agent, I want them there SELLING the home. That means telling the buyer all about the home at the showing - NO DIFFERENT than an open house. I want them to point out all of the features that their agent couldn't possibly know, I want them to ASK if they'd like to make an offer (a lost art on many agents today) and I'd like them to get FEEDBACK immediately - not later if/when the showing agent feels like remembering it.

    Lockboxes are the REAL disservice to sellers. They leave the selling part up to the other agents from other companies. That's not who sellers hired to sell their home; and it's the untold story of the dangers of what I call "lockbox laziness" in the real estate industry.

    Of course, I'm a contrarian, so what do I know... :>

    10:52pm • #54
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    Toula: I have to agree with you 100%  Here in Clarksville we gave up Supra nearly 2 years ago and went to Sentrilock which is a much better system.

    I hate combo lockboxes too.. These have No Security at all. Nearly bad as no lock box at all. Many cases the listing agent can't be found to get a code.

    11:53pm • #55
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    Toula, I am in total agreement with you!  Well deserved gold star!

    1:37am • #56

    Have to agree with you on this one.  It may not be the case if agents were available to show them when needed...  That is a part of the job and it is proactive, and in the sellers best interest to get it shown as much as often.  Thanks

    3:28am • #57

    Toula, I didn't realize I wasn't signed in.  They above message was me.  Thanks

    3:30am • #58
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    Hi Matthew - I think we could have a real debate with having the listing agent present.  Maybe I should write a blog about that???

    Hi Roland - Thanks for your comments.  I agree, combo boxes serve their purpose, but the codes need to be available...

    Hi Dave - Thank you!

    Hi Bradley - Thank you for signing in...mystery guest.  Thanks for you comments!

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    7:49am • #59
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    Nice Rant! Our Board requires Supra lockboxes on all properties. However, with the current market, many Realtors are using the lockboxes you can purchase at Home Depot. I understand that some agents have lots of listings and don't have enough Supra boxes, so I don't have a complaint about that but, they all operate differently. And I'm usually chatting with my clients while trying to open the door, and it just makes me look stupid!

    What really frosts me are rentals. Many of the rentals have lockboxes of one kind or another, and that's ok. I know at a rental I need to be paying more attention at the door. But some rentals require ME to go to their office and pick up a key! NO WAY! I did that a couple of times and decided that it was TOO much when there are many, many other rentals that don't require me to pick up a key. PLUS, the ones you have to pick up and then drop back off, usually only pay me $50.00! Can you imagine? I figure they just don't want to rent the property...so I don't show those properties.

    I've learned to use a Tenant Agency Agreement with rental clients and I charge an upfront fee. I charge what I think I'm worth, which is a lot more than $50.00. Many people will agree to use me because I'm able to get them into lots of homes all in a few hours, and find the ones that suit them the best. And many of them don't see the need for my services if they have to pay, and I'm okay with that, too, because I know they are going to have to go to those listings offices, pick up the keys, and drop them back off again, and they probably won't even like the house! I wish those folks the best and say good-bye.

    11:05am • #60
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    Toula, extremely well written. Here in the Sacramento area if an agent puts up one of those contractor lockboxes and does not have a Supra lockbox they will be fined. Lockboxes are the safest form available to the seller and trackable...best that agents get educated in order to do the best for their sellers.

    With so many homes on the market to chose from, having to go pick up a key and put the agent out is not what I call representing the seller to the fullest. Many agents won't bother...there goes the sell.

    I'm with you all the way on this one!

    11:13am • #61

    I went though the comments and I guess I am going to buck the trend "a little" -- I am an on-site sales agent for a Golf Course community -- We use lockboxs on some of the listings -- However, with the boom in the market and every Tom, Dick, and Sally getting their license we were getting showings but these Realtors had NO IDEA of the features of the community, we were getting ZERO feedback from Realtors (that is a whole different blog post).  Our Sellers were getting so frustrated a lot of them asked that we remove the lockbox and begin to accompany on the showings -- To help put the properties best foot forward --

    Now I will agree that "pick the key up at office" is BS  -- If it is someone I have worked with before or I know they are a true Realtor, I will have the home open and lights turned on for them otherwise I generally going along (trying to stay out of the way but answer questions when they arise) -- Vacant Houses and general Brokerage I will concede should have lockbox's! 

    Have a Merry Christmas and Best of Luck in the New Year!  JE

    12:38pm • #62
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    Most have lockboxes here in Co. I don't like the combos though. While you are on pet peeves- do you think it would be a good idea to shovel a pathway (snow or leaves) to the door? I have had to get out my shovel before! Thanks for the post!

    12:45pm • #63
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    Hi Marianne - I did rant a bit, didn't I...

    Hi Gena - Way to go Sacramento!!!  Thanks for sharing that information.

    Hi Jason - I see your point for homes in a concentrated community setting.   But here, we are working within the entire county.  By the way, not getting feedback is unacceptable also. 

    Hi Kristi - I guess we all need to carry shovels too!

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    1:10pm • #64
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    Ease of showing is one of the key components of effective marketing. I always explain to sellers that agents will take the path of least resistance when showing homes. A home with a lockbox that can be shown any time makes it easier for agents and buyers, and that improves the chances of getting an offer.

    5:48pm • #65
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    Toula, don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel. I totally agree with you and those are plenty reasons. Probably the best one is the disadvantage to the seller

    8:18pm • #67

    One thing I would add to the lockbox is a contact agent on the lockbox, when I am at a condo with 30 listings, PLEASE let agents know which box is yours!

    8:28pm • #68
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    Hi Charles - I know...the post got a little long!  LOL...Thanks for responding!

    Hi Sonny - That must be impossible!  Thanks for adding that comment...

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    9:21pm • #69
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    I did not read all of the comments as I sip my coffee this morning...but I do recall so many times that I am running to offices to pick up keys...just a waste of time.. also, I heard, but have not confirmed, that our E and O insurance may not cover us, if we don't use the electronic keyboxes through the board.  So the local hardware store boxes would not protect us.

     

    Anyone else hear anything about that?

    9:07am • #70
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    Hi Laura - Thanks for responding during you morning coffee!!!  You're actually the first person to bring up E & O...and I believe you are correct.  Great point...yet another reason why our boards should require a form for not using a lockbox.

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    2:40pm • #71
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    Even a combination lockbox will do the trick...... you can get them at Lowes or Home Depot for under $50.00

    I have no idea why agents do NOT use lockboxes...maybe it helps them feel more important.... who knows....

    DUH.....

    =-P

    4:02pm • #72
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    I totally agree. Houses that aren't easily accessible aren't shown as often as those that are unless there is something obvious about it that makes it stand out far above the competition.

    5:55am • #73
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    Toula-

    I work in  markets where lockboxes are the norm and a few places (like Manhattan) where they are unheard of. In Manhattan, the listing agent is present for showings instead, and we are at the mercy of their a) schedules and b) personalities. Add to that a small studio or co op (600-800 SF) and you have an uncomfortable situation.

    6:26am • #74
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    Amen!  I tried to show a home last week and was SHOCKED when I read "key at office"....the office was 15 minutes away and I had 12 other homes to show..Guess what happened?  I didn't show it.  I would have had to have not only picked it up, but I would have had to take it back...No thanks!  There is a similar house down the street...we looked at that listing instead. What a PAIN in the butt.  Why does this agent think they are doing the seller a favor?  I don't have time, nor do buyers, quite frankly...too much competition. You'd better be easily accessible these days. 

    7:51am • #75
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    Hi Alexander - I agree, I would rather see a combo versus no lockbox...

    Hi Colleen - Accessibility is one of the key elements!

    Hi Philip - Very interesting, I guess they do things differently in Manhattan!

    Hi Elizabeth - Exactly...thank you for sharing that!

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    10:48am • #76
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    Toula, I think is probably my #1 pet peeve also.  I strongly agree with you on all points, thank you for outlining this nice post.  I also DISAGREED with the guy who wrote the post about "lockboxes are a disservice to the sellers", that is hog wash!

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    12:10pm • #77
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    Hi Regina - Thanks for your response here!  Great, I will join right now!

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    12:14pm • #78
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    Toula: Rants are good! I definately sided with you on it.

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