On New Years Eve last year I wrote a post, Market and economic predictions for the new year where I set out 10 predictions mainly about markets and the economy for the new year.  I tried to choose topics where my predictions were differed from the majority of mainstream economists and market pundits.  Since the year is now coming to an end, it's time to revisit this list and see how I did.  I should have a new predictions list for 2009 coming within the next couple days.

1. The fear of inflation is misplaced, deflation is coming...

Correct -  There has been massive monetary deflation as credit throughout the world has significantly contracted.  While price inflation in commodities surged for the first half of the year due to hot money speculators trying to find the next asset bubble, this bubble collapsed rather spectacularly mid-year.  Between massive demand destruction from slowing economies around the world, and the continuing deleveraging in our financial systems this will almost certainly continue.  It wasn't until October that I heard the first mention of deflation not inflation in the main stream media.

People are screaming that we are going to experience near term hyper-inflation do to the central banks pumping liquidity.  The central banks ability to pump money pales in comparison to the size and speed of the credit contraction.  Consider over $30 Trillion in wealth evaporated this year across the various asset classes, compared to a couple trillion pumped by the central banks.  Plus most of this money particularly pumped into banks in simply being hoarded in US treasuries, so it really has no inflationary effect at all.

2. The dollar will strengthen against most currencies... 

Correct - The dollar index started the year at about 76 and appears that it will end around 81 with most of the US dollars strength coming against the Euro.  My prediction was based on the fact that world economies were in just as bad of shape if not worse than the US economy and there would be massive rate cuts not in the US but internationally.  There were also massive bets being made against the dollar that would b unwound during global deleveraging and the market realization economic problems are not limited to the US.  The global decoupling theory spouted by many economists and market analysts is proving to have more holes than Swiss cheese, the world economy really is dependent on the US consumer.

3. The housing downturn will continue...

Correct - Yup, last I checked it's still going on and I think we've got several years left until "bottom" is hit.  We have many substantial regional housing down turns in the past to look at for a model, and they usually lasted 5-7 years from peak to trough.  It should be noted the steepest price declines happened in the first two years and then it was a slow grind down for several years.  The main driver behind the housing market this time is almost totally availability of cheap credit, so until you see a turn in the credit markets there won't be in housing.

4. It is not subprime...

Correct - Look no further than default statistics on mortgages in general and it's obvious in it's not just subprime, Fannie and Freddie should be proof of that.  Secondary markets for everything from credit card debt to students loans are now pretty much dead, and we even saw it spread all the way into the municipal bond markets this spring as they locked down (I wasn't expecting that to happen so soon).  The worst effects are yet to be felt, as some of the secondary credit market troubles have yet to have spread down to the consumer.  I do not believe the credit crisis is over, in fact I believe we are experiencing another lull in the storm just like we did last fall, then again in the winter, and then again after Bear Stearns.

5. Real estate commissions will increase... 

Maybe Correct - Most people were claiming average real estate commissions on a percentage basis were going to contract due to new business models such as Redfin.  My prediction was made on the basis that commissions typically increase in down turns as it becomes harder to sell properties and that many "innovative" models will die off because they can't survive in an environment of lower transaction volumes.  I haven't seen any hard numbers on this, but I have lots of anecdotal evidence that my prediction was correct.

6. Several large regional banks will fail...

Correct - My prediction was "This next year several large regional banks will fail and end up being seized/merged by the OTS for violating capital requirements.  There is a very significant possibility of at least one of the top ten banks in the US having a similar fate.  I won't mention any names but several candidates come to mind."

Out of the large regionals we saw IndyMac, Washington Mutual, Wachovia, Downey Financial go down.  Both WAMU and Wachovia laid claim to being in the top 10 largest banks in the country.  Additionally, the only reason Citigroup (the largest) made it through the year was several hundred billion in bailout money being thrown at them.  Back in April 2007 when I started really investigating the banking system I put together a list of banks that I thought were dead men walking based on their exposure to bad debt and low capitalization.  All of these failed banks were near the top of the list.  There are MANY banks on that list, that I still believe are walking dead even with the government intervention and I actually expect the rate of bank failures to increase significantly in the next year.

The accounting fraud in are banking system, which the regulatory agencies like the FDIC and OTC are assisting to cover up is massive.  There is no other way to describe it other than criminal, the agencies put in place to protect us have instead been assisting in the crimes for years.  See: The TRUTH Behind The Credit Market Lockup

7. More bail-out schemes than you can shake a stick at will be proposed...

Correct - Does this one need any further explanation?  I think I'd need about 10 pages just to list the bailouts set in motion in the last two months alone.  Keep in mind one line from the 2008 prediction though, "Yet, none of them will fundamentally do anything."  I'm sticking with that, mathematically they can't solve the problem, it's all a smokescreen, all they do it drag out the economic pain longer, and act to distribute the losses wider in the system.  History has shown you can not have a true economic recovery until you take the losses and get them out of the system.

8. The FED substantially lowers the target rate...

Correct - What are we at, .25% now from over 4% at the start of the year?  Welcome to ZIRP (Zero Interest Rate Policy), it's gonna last for a while, and no that isn't a good thing.

9. ActiveRain will launch many cool new features and several new faces will join the ActiveRain team... 

Correct - ActiveRain launched the redesign Localism, Outside Blogs, and is preparing to launch channels which may be the biggest overhaul to the main ActiveRain.com site in years.  Many new faces too, though I've moved onto to start a new venture.

10. Despite all my bearish predictions we will survive and life goes on...

Correct - I'm still here writing this...

Now I have some work to do to come up with a whole new set of predictions...

 

52 Comments on 2008 Market and Economic Predictions - RESULTS

DEC
26
265,188 Points 59 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Matt - While it's unfortunate that you are correct with these, it proves that you are a damn smart cookie.  The subprime thing was big for me.  Perhaps some of the "Powers That Are" will read this and offer you a job.  Between you and Lenn Harley, I think we could whip into shape sooner rather that later.

2:32pm • #1
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Good call on all the points. I'm still waiting to hear about TIMU.

I think 2009 is going to be very-very interesting. It is one of those years where the convergence of everything comes together. There are some positive signs, some negative signs, some ho-hum signs.

 

2:34pm • #2

Matt-  You write, "The accounting fraud in are banking system, which the regulatory agencies like the FDIC and OTC are assisting to cover up is massive.  There is no other way to describe it other than criminal, the agencies put in place to protect us have instead been assisting in the crimes for years." This is the first I've heard this accusation.  Can you point me in a direction for further research?  I completely agree that these bailout efforts are like using a boogie board to stop a wave:  the wave needs to happen and topple what it may so that we can move on with, hopefully, a much healthier foundation.

BTW, came to this post via your tweet.

2:34pm • #3
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Yep.  Sad but true.  I'll have to go back and post mine too.  I missed one out of 10 by predicting higher interest rates. 

Of course, what good is a low interest rate if the house won't appraise. 

 

2:40pm • #4
242,399 Points Outside Blog

That's a pretty good "hit list"!!    I'm impressed.

2:41pm • #5
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Wow!  Please let me know where you got your crystal ball!  I could use one.

2:43pm • #6
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Matt,

9 out of 10 correct and a "maybe" impressive!

I think that the "maybe" is an absolute for individual pro's and not according to the former masses.

I'm willing to go out on a limb and predict that the sun will rise and set once each day dunning 2009, even January 21!

Bill

2:44pm • #7
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Kathleen: There is very little written about it in the press.  But simply the fact that back in early 2007 I could look at the public filings of these regional banks and see dozens that were clearly undercapitalized (if proper accounting was used), insolvent and flat out lying about their losses.  Yet the FDIC and OTS which has access to much more private data and who's mandated job is to look regulate this did not take any action is criminal.  I wrote about it in The TRUTH Behind The Credit Market Lockup

 

There is no way this in just negligance they know the financial shape these banks are in and continue to both lie to the public, and not take enforcement action putting millions of depositors and tax payers at risk.  The balance sheets of many of these big banks are flat out bogus, like Enron bogus yet, regulators are helping them cover it up.

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2:53pm • #8
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Lenn: I think you may have just be early with that prediction.  Even though I didn't put it in my "official" predictions, I did think mortgage rates were probably going up this year too.

One of my 2009 predictions is that sometime, probably late in the year we experience a bond market crash, a la 1931 that causes interest rates to skyrocket.  The patterns and circumstances leading up are scary in their similarity.   

2:59pm • #9
129,146 Points 3 Featured Posts

Not bad Matt you have good reason to be proud. 

3:46pm • #10
535,696 Points 45 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Matt - with a record like that, I can't wait to hear your predictions for 2010! Do you see some money fleeing the US?

3:51pm • #11

now pick some lottery numbers! :)

3:52pm • #12

Looking forward to the 09 predictions.

3:55pm • #13
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Matt,

I enjoy all of your financial posts.  Interesting to note, even though you predict a bond market crash in 2009 like you said, "you are still here writing" and you are launching a business.

True spirit of an entrepreuner.

4:00pm • #14
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Great predictions.  They are on target.  I am looking forward to the 2009 predictions.

4:07pm • #15
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I have been thinking about last year's predictions and getting ready to go back and look at mine too... you were probably more accurate than me. 

4:12pm • #16
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Before you move on to the 2009 economy, do you have any ideas on college bowl season or the NFL playoffs?

4:21pm • #17
203,786 Points 13 Featured Posts Outside Blog

You obviously have a knack with accurate predictions -- and your finger on the economic pulse of the global economy.  I'm looking forward to your predictions for the coming year.  Pretty scary stuff but we'll try to stay positive!

4:26pm • #18
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Matt:  I really do not think that you number 5 prediction will happen.  I don't know anything about the Redfin model you speak of, but in tough times... many sellers do not have the ability to increase their commissions.  Only in the cases where the seller actually either has the equity to offer a higher commission, or has the actual cash on hand... could the commissions increase.  Just my two cents.

4:37pm • #19
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I tend to agree with most of what you said.  I am planning my year accordingly.

4:59pm • #20
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Before you move on to the 2009 economy, do you have any ideas on college bowl season or the NFL playoffs?

Not a football fan, but NBA, Cavs beat the Lakers in the final :)

5:11pm • #21
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Karen: The increase in commissions is less about what the seller "can do" and more to do with what the selling agent can afford to do.  If it takes lot more work and expense to sell a property, it doesn't make economical sense for some of the discounting or commissions we saw the last couple years. 

5:14pm • #22
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So...2009 will fine? When does your crystal ball arrive? Can I order one?

5:18pm • #23
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My crystal ball for 2009 is a bit more foggy than it was going into 2008, but I'll do my best.

5:22pm • #24

Wow, Matt! Some track record you have for '08. I'll be interested to see your '09 predictions. Who's going to win the Superbowl?

Cheers,

Robin

5:39pm • #25

That was impressive!  I can't wait to read your 2009 predictions and see what Timu is...

6:15pm • #26
190,689 Points 18 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Matt, Glad to see you!  Yes, almost all your predictions were correct, sadly. I agreed with you then and am almost afraid to read your predictions for next year, but still can't wait to see what you think.

6:26pm • #27
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Thanks Matt. I like forward looking posts and your accuracy for 2008 has me anxiously awaiting your predictions for 2009.

7:08pm • #28
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Matt, I knew you were smart but gee 10 of 10. I saw a video today that Fred Light posted here. It was my a talking head in 2006, who was absolutely correct. Everyone disagreed with him on air but lo and behold he was the only one right.

7:19pm • #29
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Good predictions, you've done your homework.  I fail to see how the USD can keep up value when the Fed keeps on printing more paper money.  I look forward to your next predictions.

7:44pm • #30
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Matt - You did pretty good. You are like a little genie in the bottle.

9:02pm • #31
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I do believe you mapped that one out pretty darn good. I'll look forward to your 2009 predictions :)

9:35pm • #32
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Matt, You must be the great predictor. I enjoyed reading your post and can't wait till 09 comes out.

9:48pm • #33
248,073 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Matt,

Your accurate predictions qualify you for a Nobel nomination. Fed cutting the target rate all the way to .25 is of course unheard of but there we are. Shows you the nature of the mess we are in.

9:48pm • #34
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Matt: Many of these are correct. As for the sales.. Each market is differnt. Our market has actually been fairly well.

 

11:09pm • #35
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Matt,

I remember reading your predictions last year and being scared.  Now that the sky has fallen, so to speak, and I'm still in business, I'm hopeful, but realize there's still a lot of crap that can hit the fan. I'm looking forward to your 2009 predictions. 

11:23pm • #36
DEC
27
234,685 Points 5 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Matt, I'm looking forward to seeing the predictions for 2009. 

12:23am • #37
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Agreed.  The "experts" and pundits are all recommending a "flight to bonds".

One of the problems with the bond market is that the rating agencies are now totally discredited.

 

6:45am • #38
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Regarding Kathleen's question, I watched a PBS show last night with Gwinn Eifel (? sp) that discussed what a bad job the stock rating companies had done, and how those watchdog agencies had looked the other way, rather than doing the job they are set up to do.

I also agree with you that commissions generally increased. Agents were willing to walk away from unprofitable listings. I heard many agents say that they turned down as many listings as they took.

9:04am • #39
127,520 Points

Matt: Thank you. I appreciate your predictions. What about 2009?

9:36am • #40

I think the saying "hit the nail on the head" is in order  -- How about this year you predict a Market turn around in 2009 and lets have a big CORRECT on that one at the end of 2009!!  JE

9:54am • #41
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Matt, great post and I fear that you are correct on most, if not all of your predictions.  2009 will be a year of challenges.

10:05am • #42
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Matt,

This is something that I have debated as well, "Consider over $30 Trillion in wealth evaporated this year across the various asset classes, compared to a couple trillion pumped by the central banks."

Very good point.

10:15am • #43
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Matt I just want to know if I can borrow your crystal ball for the next few weeks:)

10:39am • #44
138,086 Points 4 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Great perception.  I wish my crystal was as good as yours.  I think mine needs a jump start and maybe a push start.  Have a great year...

10:48am • #45
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Glad your predictions have fallen in line with so many others.  Thankfully we did not buck the prediction of the masses as did many and did not prepare for a massive correction.  We had predicted many of this several years ago and were surprised that it did not happen until last year.  Thankfully we were ready and are in the mode of increasing market share while losing net income.  Just getting ready for positive market to come...whenever it comes.

I guess if we were really smart we should have shorted the maket with all we had, and we would be sitting on the beach sipping Margaritas.

11:47am • #46

That is right on the money.  Please forward your predictions for '09

1:07pm • #47
JAN
01
868,068 Points 68 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Nice job, can you predict Wednesdays lottery numbers with such good results? If so, why aren't you buying lottery tickets for all of us?

Todd Clark, Helping Families Home - www.IFoundYourNewHome.com

8:41am • #48
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03
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Matt, I'm curious if there is an asset class that you see remaining stable or growing in '09.

2:42pm • #50
JAN
04

Matt: Im glad I read your post before closing on that property I was going to buy. Im sure the selling agent will be devastated but you convinced me theres nothing but gloom ahead so why even bother. Im sure all the bloggers who started the year so optimistic on here feel kind of foolish after reading your predictions. I hope you are wrong but more than likely you will be pretty accurate. Just when we thought public confidence couldnt go any lower. "Brother can you spare a dime?"

Joe Scaperotta (Scaperotta Real Estate)
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