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Designated Agency... Is it right for the consumer?

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Real Estate Agent with EXIT Realty Beatrice Associates 9506757

Our state added the option of desigantated agency a few years ago.  Let's face it, it really is a way to offer dual agency with less hassles.  Either way the broker is in a dual agency situation.  As a broker I have kept our office as a traditional office.  I struggle with designated agency. Yes, its allowed by law, but is it right for the consumer.

I see designated agency offering many privacy issues among theoffice, even phone calls with clientscan contain information that no one else in the office should hear.  Two sets of records are to be kept, one public and one private.

I have always had problems with dual agency also.  I don't understand why a lawyer can't represent both parties but realtors can.  My feeling is as an industry we are not servicing our clients properly by representing both sides of a transaction. 

Just wondering what others feel about designated agency and if they see it being integrated smoothly and if I am the only one that feels this way. 

Sandy Nelson
Riley Jackson Real Estate Inc. - Olympia, WA
your Olympia area Realtor

Kevin,

I don't touch a dual agency situation with a ten foot pole. I can't believe it is still permitted legally.

Sandy

Dec 29, 2008 02:41 AM
Linda Tremblay
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc, PA License #AB065488 - Doylestown, PA
Associate Broker - Bucks County, PA Real Estate Services

I am a member of a large brokerage and we do practice designated agency. I feel it would not be right to my clients to not be able to sell them a home just because another agent who may not even be in our office, but still the same brokerage lists it.  It also would not be fair to my sellers to exclude everyone from L&F.  I see no problem with me representing my particular client and another agent representing theirs.  Customer normally hire an agent, not a broker.

This is not dual agency, that is why it is called designated.

Dec 29, 2008 02:42 AM
Steven Wright
Home Real Estate - Aurora, CO
CRS - Home Real Estate - 720-989-5283

Not sure I am an advocate for Designated agency. Not sure how that could possibly be good for the consumer. You can't be a coach for both teams.

Dec 29, 2008 02:47 AM
Kevin Vitali
EXIT Realty Beatrice Associates - Middleton, MA
Helping Massachusetts Home Buyers and Home Sellers

Sandy-  Glad to feel im the only one who doesnt feel that way.

Linda- Im not sure about the laws where you are from, but in Massachusetts, the broker is a dual agent in a designated agency transaction.  When the broker needs to step in they are stepping in as a dual agent.  If the broker needs to step in thats when the client usually needs your help.

I am also not saying don't show the property, but show the property as with the buyer unrepresented or refer them to another agency.  I do respect your opinion and thats why I posted this to see how others feel.    I just find it hard to serve to masters.

 

 

 

Dec 29, 2008 02:49 AM
Herb Hamilton
RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors - Portland, OR
Real Estate Broker ,CDPE, Downtown Portland

Kevin,

Part of what your struggling with may come from your own question. " I don't understand why a lawyer can't represent both parties but realtors can. "

Lawyers are often adversary's. Where as dual agents are more like facilitators. In fact as a dual agent you often times help diffuse tense situations by not injecting over zealous agents trying to out best the other side.

Dec 29, 2008 02:49 AM
Kevin Vitali
EXIT Realty Beatrice Associates - Middleton, MA
Helping Massachusetts Home Buyers and Home Sellers

or as the bible says.... "don't serve two masters" lol

Dec 29, 2008 02:50 AM
Kevin Vitali
EXIT Realty Beatrice Associates - Middleton, MA
Helping Massachusetts Home Buyers and Home Sellers

Herb- Have to disagree there....respectively might I ad.  As dual or designated we are not facilitators we have a fiduciary to both parties.  I think one of my biggest problems is buyers and sellers don't understand agency all that well and when the situation arises they are just happy to have an offer or buy a home.  They don't think through the ramifications of the situation.

Dec 29, 2008 02:52 AM
Todd Hueffed
Champions Real Estate Services - Everett, WA

In Washington State we can be duel agents and our contracts are written to point out who you are working for and we also have agency law handbooks that have to be handed to the client and we even have a page in the contract that they sign saying that have gotten this book.

I will say however that I don't like to practice dual agency because of the problems that can come up.....usually however when I become a duel agent I know that both clients are getting a pretty good deal as I when I take a listing I state and have an addendum that gives the seller back a portion of the commissions so I am never keeping the full commission so in this way I feel I am treating the seller right and they usually in turn treat the buyer right.

In over 10 years I have not yet had a problem and knock on wood I will never.....

 

That's my two cents

Todd Hueffed

Dec 29, 2008 03:02 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

In Georgia this has been an option for years and at first I was apprehensive about it as well, but now it's the norm.  Our office offers both dual and designated agency.  First of all I believe that when you list a house the client has hired you to sell their house, so if you can not  act as a dual agent how can YOU sell their home?? 

And we explain agency to our clients when we list their home.  So I can't tell you what to offer or what to counter if I'm a dual agent... I still can provide you with a CMA to let you make an educated offer or counter.

And if a client is at all uncomfortable with it we give them the option of designated agency where as two different agents who agree and follow through and do not discuss their clients of the situation represent the different parties.

As a back up we also have a friendly competitor that we love and trust that we send the buyer to and he does the same if either the buyer or the seller are not comfortable with dual or designated agency.  We've only had to do this a couple of times it works out great.

Dec 29, 2008 03:13 AM
Herb Hamilton
RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors - Portland, OR
Real Estate Broker ,CDPE, Downtown Portland

Kevin,

I do not meen to give the impression that we are facilitators.Only that we act more like it than a true Single Agency relationship.

In single agency any thing that you find out about the other parties needs are fair game. Often times the other agent will give out that information freely in hopes of protecting an un-earned commission. How does that benefit there client?

This entire game I think can create more ill will in the community than is neccessary. I am a very strong advocate for my client. But I also am a member of the community and human race.

A good deal is where both clients can leave the closing table feeling as if they got most of everything they wanted and are pleased with the process.

Dec 29, 2008 03:15 AM
Thomas Tolbert
Better Homes and Gardens® Real Estate Legacy - Savannah, GA

I see no problem with designated agency but do see one with DUAL agency.  How can one represent two parties properly?  Even with the best intentions I think that dual agency is wrought with issues. I have a realtor friend who indicated that dual agency is commonplace in the state she came from and she's comfortable with dual agency. Not something I feel comfortable with at all.

Dec 29, 2008 03:45 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

If you are against dual agency how would you handle this following situation?

You are working with buyers, they want representation, they sign buyers brokerage agreement on Tuesday and you show them 4 homes.  Nothing they fall in love with, on Thursday you list a home and place it on your web site, Friday your buyers call you back and saw your new listing and really want to see it???  What do you do if you are against dual agency??  Isn't it your obligation to sell the listing?  Isn't it your obligation to still represent your buyers??

While I admit it took me a while to wrap my head around the idea, after years of practicing dual agency I find it's not a problem for me.

Dec 29, 2008 04:27 AM
Kevin Vitali
EXIT Realty Beatrice Associates - Middleton, MA
Helping Massachusetts Home Buyers and Home Sellers

Dual Agency is definitely legal and I practice it.  I just think that, especially if there is a problem, the consumer is uneducated and underserved.  Just as a point of note, a large number of lawsuits in our area revolve around dual agency.

Dec 29, 2008 10:17 PM
Scott Smith
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Gloucester, MA
Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts

Dual agency and designated agency are two different things.

I have not had an instance when I have been a dual agent, however, if I have properly educated my sellers and my buyers, then I believe I can effectively represent both.

Dec 30, 2008 09:57 AM
Kevin Vitali
EXIT Realty Beatrice Associates - Middleton, MA
Helping Massachusetts Home Buyers and Home Sellers

Scott-On the surface dual and designated are different, but when push comes to shove the broker himself is in a dual situation. Its a fancy way of covering up dual agency.

Dec 31, 2008 12:04 AM
Deb Nicholls
Keller Williams Boston North West - Acton, MA
Realtor - ABR, LCM, e-Pro

I think desiganted agency is a must, especially for large firms. I could not effectively help my buyers find the best home for them if I had to eliminate the ones listed by my brokerage. Seriously, I have worked for two large firms, and there have been agents whom I have never seen, let alone talked to, who worked there.

When I first meet with a prospective client I spend time discussing agency, and then have them sign the state mandated agency disclosure. I point out that as an agent, I really work for the client, not the other agents or the firm, so my loyalty and fiduciary responsiblity is to them. I tell them I will let them know if and when we are in a designated agency situation ("Notice," also required by MA law.) 

Further, I explain that if we ever run into a dual agency situation,  I would step back and be more neutral, and try to make both parties feel good about the transaction. But if either felt uncomfortable with this arrangement, I would find another agent to act as a buyers agent (designated agency) and I would represent the seller. So far I have not had to do this, but it makes my clients feel better to know they have that option.  

Since I keep a home office, and rarely call clients from the company office, that helps prevent any  inadvertent disclosure of confidential information. (I don't know how agents who work in their company's office handle this.)

I think the most important part of agency is to make sure your clients understand it!

Jan 01, 2009 03:12 AM
Michael Prescott
ERA Key Realty - Whitinsville, MA
Blackstone Valley Worcester County Homes

I am in the same situation as Deb, I work out of my home office and there is little issue of inadvertent disclosure.  Dual agency to me is a no no...I do not think I could do both parties justice in that situation. In fact, a friend who's home I had listed, told me if I brought in a buyer they did not have an issue with me representing both sides.  I did.  I did get a buyer in and gave them to a colleague (who gave me 50% of his commission).

Jan 02, 2009 05:05 AM
Jim Frimmer
HomeSmart Realty West - San Diego, CA
Realtor & CDPE, Mission Valley specialist

We allow it here, but I think it's difficult to sign a listing agreement saying you will work for them to get the highest price and then turn around, walk to the other side of the table, and sign a buyer's agreement saying you will work for them to get their dream home at the lowest price possible.

They are mutually exclusive. What do you do when there is a conflict? I have heard that the great supermajority of lawsuits against Realtors here are because of dual agency.

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Jan 05, 2009 11:21 AM