Matt Stigliano reminded me the other day of how I approach Inspection Report writing.  When I started doing home inspections there were several companies offering Inspection Report Writing software----none of them would do what I wanted them to do----especially when it came to pictures.  They have gotten much better, but now that I have a Bazillion hours creating my own (in Excel), the thought of changing takes on the proportions of the government bailout.Inspection Report

      From the beginning, I wanted to produce a written record of the house that was very specific to that house at the time of inspection----with as little CYA and filler as possible.  I wanted to avoid the kind of canned verbiage that was common with these commercial programs.  Take for example this common commercial software idiocy:  "There are missing light switch covers at one or more locations."  Who the heck comes up with this stuff?  I will come back to how I approach this a little later.

     My reports are broken into four basic components:  1. The Cover & Index, plus the Buyer and House information (the kind of stuff that would be on the MLS listing); 2.  The Summary Section (this is all the safety issues and stuff that is going to cost a bunch of money to fix); 3. The Information & Maintenance Sections (this is where all of the "details" about the house gets listed; and, 4. The Narrative Sections (this is where I discuss in detail the kinds of stuff that might end up in the summary). 

     What I am attempting to do with the report is to not only provide the buyer with a document that they can use in determining whether they want to buy the house or not, but also a place to put all the other information about the house that I accumulate during the short time I am at the inspection-----the beginnings of their owner's manual if you will.

     Since my primary note-taking tool is my camera, I can gather tons of information about the home that would not be possible to collect in the context of the inspection if I had to rely on pen and paper---unless the inspection was to take much longer.  I photo all data plates, temperatures, water pressures etc so that not only are these things documented but I can then transfer the information to the report when I get back to my office.

     So my report would not just say:  "Clothes Washer---present" (assuming there is nothing wrong with it), but would say:  "Clothes Washer, Kenmore (Whirlpool), Serial # xyxyxyxyx, Model # ABxxxxyyyyssss, Overflow Pan present without drain, No High water alarm present, Water Shut-offs present, Rubber hoses present (little blurb about what is wrong with rubber hoses), Drains to Stand Pipe, etc."  We are assuming in this case that there really isn't anything "wrong" with the washer.  Otherwise I might add things like dents, and chipped enamel, whether the unit is nearing its expected life, signs of past flooding, present leaking, draining to the laundry sink (and issues associated with that practice), ungrounded electrical outlet, etc.  In other words I am attempting to document everything I can, and in the process give the buyer real information in a context that is relative to only that item I am talking about----and in the context of the age of the home and what was required at the time of installation and/or construction.  This approach is then applied to the whole house and its many components, and provides a document that is very specific to that home and doesn't contain 10 pages of information that has nothing to do with that house.  I do everything possible to minimize statements like:  "Leaking pipes in basements and crawl spaces are common with older galvanized pipes"----when the house doesn't even have a basement.

     Regarding my little rant about the missing light switch covers, I would comment on the missing covers based on how many were missing.  If there is only one missing I say where it is missing.  If they are all missing I recommend that all switch covers be installed where missing.  Again, it is an attempt to convey what is going on as opposed to writing less----and as a result not providing any real information.

     The absolute worst kinds of reports are those check-list type reports that are twenty pages (in triplicate) of mostly boxes to check that have nothing to do with the house and in the end provide virtually no information of any real value.

      There are those that will argue that what I am doing is "too much" and not necessary for the buyer to have to make a decision about the house.  But from the get-go, that is not what I am interested in.  That part is easy.   I do not see myself as merely someone to facilitate a sale----I am an information provider.  My business model as a builder and now as an inspector has always been to provide real service---to do what I can to make sure the buyer has an experience of being taken care of.   I am also sensitive to the fear that so much information will be overwhelming at an already emotionally overwhelming time in the buyer's life.  A very important part of my conversation with the buyer is to prepare them for the "volume" of information.  I like to warn them that all my reports are really long even if there is nothing wrong.  Basically it is the Narrative portions of the report that has the information that is typically considered the stuff that would help the buyer make a decision---and that information condenses-out even further in the Summary of "Significant" findings.  Most of the agents I have the pleasure to work with appreciate this framework that I use.  They know that "information" protects them. They also help to prepare the buyer for what to expect from my inspection and the report----long before the buyer calls me.

      I have had many buyers come back to me years later and say how they used the report as a punch list of things to do on the home and as a resource for information about the house when they couldn't remember some detail about the house.

      While my inspections take typically 3-4 hours----it is pretty rare for me to get the report done in less than 6 hours.  For this service I am able to command higher prices per inspection than some of my competition, reinforcing the notion that you get what you pay for when you hire an inspector.  I have yet to have a buyer tell me they would appreciate it if I would give them, "a little less information next time----please."

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Charles Buell

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44 Comments on A little less information next time please!

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Charles, a simple statement that you hate generic statements and like it to be more reflexive of the house being inspected would have being fine, excellent rant.

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10:11am • #1

Thanks for sharing, sometimes less is more and other times more informationin needed....

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The more relevant information possible the better.  I hate when I get an inspection report that has the check boxes and vague descriptions of the problems with no pictures.  This is about 50% of the reports out there.  We are in an information society, to much information is good!!  keep up the good work, us realtors appreciate it!!

10:12am • #3
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Roy---sometimes I just go on and on:)

Diane, it is a delicate balance sometimes

Brian, we are in obvious agreement----thanks.

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Charles - First, thanks for the mention.  I saw what you did and I loved it.  Me, I'm a bit wordy myself, so I appreciate the detail and explanation of the details.  I think a buyer should get all the info they can, it only serves them better and if they're my clients, serves me better and helps me serve them better.  I am not an inspector, although I know a lot of the things you look for and see.  But I am not an expert, which is why I would rely on someone I would consider an expert that goes the extra mile for my clients, just like I do for them.  The idea of the "owner's manual" is brilliant and I can see how a buyer could use it as a "punch list" to do the things they need to on their home after the purchase.  Keep doing what you're doing and spreading the word.  I hope to see more of your style of inspection in the future.

10:22am • #5

Sounds like you are doing what you are paid to do.  I think you are doing it right.

10:26am • #6
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Matt, buyers are becoming more savvy and with the internet are starting to expect what they deserve in a home inspection.  In my opinion it is only a matter of time before the inspection industry as a whole will be forced to meet the demands of the market place.

Nate, thanks---I am working at it.

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Charles - I certainly hope your predicitions come true.  I definitely see a need for more information.  Buyers and sellers alike are doing their homework long before we speak to them and although many of them want help navigating the process, many of them know exactly what to expect.

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Hey, Charles.

Since we are in the information age, and since I've been in real estate for 43 years, I take advantage of my experience as a Realtor, home inspector, roofing contractor, landscaper, general contractor, roofing contractor, plumber, and probably a few others, to provide not only a documentation of the property, but tips and tricks on safety and maintenance.

In order to prevent such a report from being a gazillion bazillion pages long, I take advantage of my web site where I can store a few billion gigabytes of information and put a lot of information in my SOLUTIONS Internet Real Estate library which is accessible to all my Clients. That means that Clients (and Realtors) can get a 7-page report on a new condo and a mere 15 pages on a 10,000-SF scraper. Realtors love it because they don't have to read the same California legal and insurance disclosures that they read in all home inspection reports here, yet the Client has access to that information through links in the report.

I'm like you, though, in that I had no need for the commercial reports that were out there. I created my reports in Word since it's much more of a word processing program than Excel is using three sections: Descriptive information about the property, legal and insurance disclosures via links, and areas of concern.

It surprised me that you were using Excel to do you reports, but it didn't surprise me at all that it takes you six hours to compile a report in Excel.

By using the hidden text and outline functions of Word, the only reason it takes me more than two hours to compile a report on a scraper is because I'm singing along to The Beatles of watching Star Trek.

11:43am • #9
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Charlie,

I am currently working on a computerized reporting system I am going to purchase. I have been using a paper reporting system, not a check list however, for years and it is a pain with the general comments. What I always end up doing is writing additional comments in the report concerning defects. It is time for me to change, but it is taking time to customize the new reporting system.

12:23pm • #10
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Matt it is the old "too much is never enough" principle.

Russel, how long the report is, is of no consequence to me as long as all the information is applicable to that particular house.  Neither Excel nor Word is ideal for what I am trying to do----but for me Excel works better. 

James, I have talked to other inspectors that use a variety of commercially available software as well as their own "homemade" systems and I have come to the conclusion that it would take me a long time to do the kind of report that I am doing no mater what program I used.  Setting up a commercial system with the sheer volume of information that I have accumulated would be a daunting task to say the least----and with no guarantee that I would be any place different than where I am right now----in either time it takes to complete the report or (even more important) in producing the type of report I want to produce.

2:17pm • #11

I have spent the last 6 months trying to convert my report to "electronic reporting".  In that I do 6 different types of inspections it is difficult, to say the least, to incorporate my reporting system into an off the shelf system.  I use a data base template that I wrote in Access, but it falls short of my needs (mainly thanks to the number of pictures).  I thought about Excell a few years ago and gave up to do more programing in Access.  Word does not keep the database of information that I am used to having.

I do use canned phrases, but they are for items not present (Washer - Not to be included in transaction) but not for anything that is to be transferred to the new owner.  For those items transferring I do as you with SN, MN, Age, and etc. Since summaries are more than likely going to be mandated for critical items I continue (in contrast to many inspectors) to use them for all issues that effect the habitability of the home (gas leaks, serious structural flaws, etc.)

I issue the report on disk, unless a paper report is requested, for "Home" inspections.  All of my commercial and investment clients require a paper report and I do intend to please the "Bread and Butter" of my business.

3:09pm • #12
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Jack there are a lot of limitations to the off the shelf software----but then again there are lots of limititations to the "homemade" versions as well.  In my area, my commercial and investment clients typically don't demand a paper copy of the report---they get the PDF email just like everyone else.  Think Green:)  Think paperless as much as possible---we are the "Evergreen State" afterall.

7:59pm • #13
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Charles, you are just too talented!  Making up your own report is going way beyond what is expected.  You should have plenty of business!!!

8:17pm • #14
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Charles - your report looks awesome. I am sure buyers will appreciate it. I can't stand the check the box types... ~Rita

9:23pm • #15
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Thanks Barbara----it comes more from me just being too stubborn really:)

Rita, thanks----none of those kinds of check boxes for me.

10:17pm • #16
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Charlie,

I have seen lots of reports from lots of people. You have the most informative, most detail-oriented report of anyone I have seen. It comes across in your report that you really know exactly what you are talking about. Unfortunately, that is not always the case with some inspectors. There are lots of ways to impart information and lots of ways to do a job. The job you do is impeccable and fills a real niche in the Seattle real estate market.

10:51pm • #17
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Steve, thanks---but did Nutsy write that?:)

11:11pm • #18
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I agree with Caron - less is more. But, where there are major issues an inspection report needs to be well defined.

11:46pm • #19
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Charles, There are two trains of thought regarding inspections, one of them being less is more, or going overboard. I am making an attempt to "bridge the gap" by breaking the report down into minor repair, safety concerns, service life and run for the hills...

~~ michael

4:40am • #20

I have always offered more than one "type" of report, and tailoring it to suit the needs of the client. I have a detailed report, a walk-through report, which I try to use sparingly, but there seems to be a lot of investor types out there right now that only want to hear or see the 'meat and potatoes" of any particular house, and don't want their time "wasted" with anything else. I even offer a "verbal walk-through" with no report other than what the buyer himself writes in notes as he walks through with me. I do this as a  service for investors who want to qualifiy a house before they offer to puchase it ( I guess it saves them time and unnecessary steps). Of course, I have different contracts and disclaimers for each of these types as well.

I have also done some "documentation" type reports, where you go through the property with a video camera, and a still camera, and simply document and describe everything, record serial numbers, condition, distinguishing markings, etc. You end up with a "catalog" of the house, it's systems, and items contained in the house. These reports can take as long as 2-3 days to complete, and are expensive ($1200-$3500). I think this area could be a whole different business, since there appears to be a growing need for it, at least in this area.

5:34am • #21
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Thanks Carol

Michael, my report does the break down the same way---I like to think:)

Kevin, if I write a report it is always detailed----I feel like I am not good at figuring out what is important to the other parties and circumstances might change where the building doesn't end up getting totally remodeled etc.  I do walkthroughs though where nothing gets written except what the buyer writes down as we go----but I don't consider those the same sort of inspection.

9:44am • #22

I bought a specific home inspection software package. A good friend of mine gave me his library that he had spent countless hours getting it customized. That helped a great deal starting off. I also spend a fair amount of time tweaking my library to continue to add things, and modify others. I use a Pocket PC as I do the inspection, then transfer the report and photos to the laptop to finish it off. It takes me about 45 minutes to finish the report.

I also do different types of inspections (like Jack G.), so I created various templates to accommodate those differences. Works for me.

Based on your example with the washing machine, I would say that your reports are a lot "wordier" than mine. To each their own style.

I gauge my performance on the amount of questions I get from clients after the inspection. If they call me with questions, I must not have done a very good job explaining the conditions I found. Same for Realtors or Sellers (if they get a copy of the report). I get very few calls, so I guess I'm doing a pretty good job. Or at least I have fooled a bunch of people, over and over and over.

1:43pm • #23
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Jack, like you I get very few questions after the buyer gets my report.  I always follow up with a phone call to "press them" a little as to whether they might have any questions----they rarely do.

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Fantastic looking report. My local inspector also has a very thorough and professional report with details. My clients have also used it as a reference and actually learned more about homes and appliances in the process! Buyers feel like they got their money's worth when they receive a lot of good information. Good Job!

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Sandy, thanks----I truely think that most people want to feel as though they are being taken care of----as opposed to being taken for a ride.  Whereas some people like to follow the line of thinking of setting expectations low and delivering more---I like to set expectations high and delivering even higher:)

2:52pm • #26
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Charles:  Really good looking report.

Your post takes me back to my first home inspection experience when I bought my first home.  I was in construction and thought that I was pretty handy but knew enough to know I needed more info.  I still have the report and it is like a crazy mans manifesto.  Check boxes and little sense.  He missed about 3 issues that total added up to around $10,000!!

Terrible....it still puts a bad taste in my mouth and that guy is still in business around here!!

Anyway good report I like the categories of your comments.  Very clear and easy to understand.

4:34pm • #27
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I'm like Jack, if I'm not getting calls to clarify issues then I figure the explanations and report were clear to the client.

4:49pm • #28
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Charles - I would be happy to pay the extra for a home inspection done with your expertise and attention to detail.

I have wondered about some of these reports, filling in the blanks with no detail.

As far as the ones like 'clothes washer-present' - yeah, no ####, sherlock!  Oh, excuse my french.

6:23pm • #29
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Jim, thanks.  There are so many awful reports out there.  I think part of the thing that supports people's notion that inspections of new construction isn't necessary is the mediocrity of many inspections to begin with.  Kind of the mentality that if not much is being found in older homes why would anything be found in new ones.

9:50pm • #30
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James, I too think that is a pretty good indicator----as well as the number of letters with lawyers letterhead that one receives:)

Virginia---your French is excused----but entirely appropriate and encouraged:)

9:52pm • #31
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We have several local inspectors whose reports are checkbox only, and HAND WRITTEN. And their handwriting is atrocious. It's almost impossible to read their reports.

3:49pm • #32
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Erica, I have a lot of tolerance for differences----but these type of reports have absolutely no place in the context of buying a house.  Not that I feel too strongly about it:)

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Charles, please tell me how you feel, truthfully! Ha! I am with you and cringe when I have a buyer hire one of those inspectors. Remember, we can advise but not steer them to you!

7:02pm • #34
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Erica, it is just a symptom of the "infancy" of the industry as a whole----we will get there eventually.

11:25pm • #35
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That's why I use HomeGauge reporting software.

It's a bag of bones that I can arrange to suit myself.  I add a bunch of muscles, nerves and skin to it.  The program does the computer stuff for me, letting me focus on making it the way I want it to appear.

It comes with the same crappy "canned comments" that most of them do.  I just dumped that and wrote my own stuff.

Different templates for different types of inspections, commercial, home, walk thru, construction litigation, etc make it simple to finish the report, add photos, etc.

Download several of the trial versions of the software types you're reviewing.  Try them.  Then choose.

One of the things I see inspectors screwing up on is the same thing they're constantly complaining about with customers.  "I want cheap".

Your reporting software is NOT the place to be cheap.  It'll cost you a lot more in the long run.

 

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Erby, You are so right about home inspectors and cheap. I hear that complaint all the time. Oh that softwares expensive or that piece of equipments a lot of money. Come on, your running a business and there's a cost associated with doing business. If you do not invest back into your business to make it better, well guess what you wont have any business. Some guys just don't get it.

7:24am • #37
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Erby, of all of the software I have looked at and fiddled with, Home Gauge, does seem to be the best.

James, I know inspectors that won't buy a moisture meter because it is "too expensive," yet they will buy any new toy that comes along in the same price range.

8:12am • #38
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Charles, I'm curious to know what you feel is limited in inspection software like HomeGauge.  In other words, what can you do in Excel that can't be done in HomeGauge?

5:24pm • #39
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Kevin, as far as I am aware, I don't think any of these example pictures can be done "directly" in home gauge:

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6:38pm • #40

I certainly don't want to turn this into an argument because you produce an outstanding report.  However, the aspects of your pictures that can't be done within the HomeGauge software can be created, however you do it (Excel, Photoshop etc.), and imported directly into the report with the click of your mouse.

6:47pm • #41
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I agree Kevin.  But lets say I make them in Excel, then I have to get them turned into a jpeg and then import them into Home Gauge.  Another thing is that I never have to resize anything----changing to PDF does all of that at the end.  Also I can put any picture, of any size, anywhere, on any page of the report that I choose.

6:56pm • #42
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I guess I'm a little confused as to why they aren't in jpeg in the first place?  Aren't they in jpeg already to be able to edit them in Excel?  Probably depends on your camera but when I put the pics on my computer from my camera, they're already jpeg.  As to sizing, I'm not sure the last time you looked at inspection softwar (in this case HomeGauge) but you'd be amazed at the ease and options of editing/importing/resizing pictures.  Regardless, the most important part is that you have something that works and you're comfortable with.  No reason to fix what isn't broke.

12:35pm • #43
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Kevin, they are in jpeg, but when you alter them by adding all the goodies you have to convert them to a "new" jpeg.  Easy enough to do---just a few more steps is all.  I own home gauge so I have fooled around with it quite a bit to see if it would work for what I do.  While I agree with the principle of if it ain't broke---don't fix it, I am always looking for ways to improve what I do.

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