As promised I put together my list of market and economic predictions for the New Year.  I somewhat unfortunately managed to go 10 for 10 in last years predictions (Recap).  Admittedly my crystal ball is a bit hazier this year, and the law of averages should give people hope.  Sorry, if my predictions this year aren't any more optimistic, but I'm not going to pull a David Lereah and will just call them like I see them.

1. The "Credit Crisis" morphs into much wider economic crisis

During 2008 we saw what was first labeled as the sub-prime crisis morph into a mortgage crisis then a credit crisis as problems spread to every type of debt security.  This year we are going to see the issues spread much deeper into the wider economy.  Job losses, particularly during the last quarter of 2008 were horrific using the reported government numbers, but downright terrifying when you factor out their number fudging.  In much the same way as government inflation numbers showed almost low inflation over the past several years when it was fairly high, there's several artifacts of the BLS's job reports that make them look much better than they really are.  Things such as the Birth/Death model and the fact that 637,000 left the job force last month because they couldn't find work (so they obviously don't count).  Using broader measures without these fudge factors, unemployment is the worst since 1983, running closer to 12% at the same time job losses are accelerating.

2. The recession gets an upgrade

Ok, I'm getting a little ahead of myself here, after all it was just officially declared we were in a recession about a month ago (backdated to last Dec) but almost everybody crunching the number on their own could have pretty much declared a recession over a year ago.  While we almost certainly won't get an official declaration this year, I think it will become apparent to independent number crunchers we will be closing in on depression territory by years end.  A depression is defined as a GDP loss of over 10%  Almost across the board economic numbers are coming in as some of the worst on record and in many cases the plunges are worse than they were in the 1930 time frame. 

3. Pension funds, the biggest non-story of 2008 becomes THE STORY of 2009

This maybe one of the biggest stories of this last year and not next to no major press.  Simply put many of the largest public pension funds were trying to be hedge funds and were decimated.  These pension funds everybody expects to be invested in nice safe things found themselves already underfunded and decided to pile money into riskier and riskier things, CDO's, risky MBS's, huge positions in financial stocks, even the historically volatile commodity market. 

Take for example CalPERS, California's massive pension fund, they lost 103% on their residential morgage investments.  Yes, you read that right 103%, because like a hedge fund, leveraged up and used borrowed money.  CalPERS lost 25% of all assets just since July 1st ($70 Billion), and while I can't find the number to reference, I saw it calculated they lost 47% of assets in the last year.  Of course learning their lessons from Bear Sterns and Lehman Brothers, they continue to claim, nothing to see here, we're well capitalized. 

Unfortunately, CalPERS is far from alone, this same type of risk taking was par for the course among many of the large pension fund and so far the losses have been kept surprisingly quiet.  Baring the most amazing economic recovery in history, many are toast and the damage is trillions.

4. House prices continue to fall, but in most regions not as fast

I'm basing this mainly on historical price trends in when regional real estate markets have collapsed.  The price declines typically last 5-7 years before bottoming out, but the steepest of the price declines typically occur within the first 2 years before leveling off somewhat. 

5. The stock market is far from seeing a long term bottom

Back in Oct. when we hit an intermediate bottom on the equity markets, about 738 on the S&P500, I started telling people I thought there was a good chance we were about to start a multi-month rally, mainly due to the massively negative sentiment I was seeing.  As a side note it's interesting that in almost all markets, sentiment is the most negative near bottoms and most positive right at tops.  So far we've managed to rally for a month and a half and it may continue for some time, but we are far from the overall bottom.

For example during the great depression we saw more than half a dozen multi-month stock market rallies taking the market up over 40% in short periods of time, yet despite this the total loss from peak to trough was nearly 93%.  Based on many types of analysis that people have done and some of my own looking at technical patterns, historical trends and economic impacts and valuations, I think a very likely bottom could be in the 300-500 range on the S&P500 within the next couple years.  That would equate to a 68-81% loss off of the peak or 45-68% loss of where we currently are after all the nastyness in the fall. 

People subscribing the buy and hold philosophy maybe in for a shock.  The whole stock market comes back and gains 8% of year over time that people like to spout is actually predicating on picking some very "convenient" date ranges.  There's been some rather lengthy (15-20 year) periods in the last century where annual stock market returns were closer to 2% and well below that of bonds.

6. Where does the bailout money come from when it's time to pay up?

When you add up all the bailout money that's been committed to in the last several months it adds up to over $8 Trillion.  Yes, $8 Trillion, to put that in perspective the total tax revenues of the US government last year was $2.7 trillion.  While that much money has been committed to, that is not the same as actually spent or handed over, similar to social security.  Most of it is in the form of backing various debt securities, which are likely to go bad in the future.  It's basically a giant credit default swap written by the government, and we've all seen what happens to those.  So, what happens when it comes time to pay up?  Who knows?  Truthfully I don't think they have a plan, I think they're just trying to kick the can down the road a little bit longer hoping for a miracle, and a new person to be in their position.  This maybe related to the next prediction.

7. A crash in the US Treasury market?

This is probably the prediction I am feeling the haziest about, particularly since I thought we were on the verge of a crash in the treasury market late last year and instead it rallied.  But the US treasury market is beginning to look like just another giant asset bubble, and asset bubbles have a tendency to continue longer than anyone expects before collapsing.  Right now prices of long term US treasuries are the highest, thus yields the lowest they've been in, well as long I can find historical data.  This is mainly due to a flight to safety from all other asset classes, particularly other types of debt, mortgages, corporate corporate bonds, etc.

Now the problem, is this is depressing long term US treasury yields to a range of 2.5% at the same time the US is taking on a unsustainable debt load plus massive future bailout commitments (see #6).  So, either the market for US treasuries is pricing in a very, very lengthy period of deflation/depression or the market is just setting up for a spectacular crash very similar to the situation in 1931 that sends interest rates soaring.  Neither is good but given the US debt load now, a treasury crash this would bankrupt the US, giving the US two choices of either hyper-inflation or flat out defaulting on debt, both which have some terrifying consequences.  Interestingly enough, guess what's the best performing asset in hyper-inflation, yes real estate.

 

8. GM files for bankruptcy despite the automaker bailout

They just got billions in low cost government loans, but that isn't going to tide them over for very long.  Given how fast they are burning cash, (you couldn't burn it faster with a forklift and a blast furnace) along with a continued economic decline they'll need continuous giant cash infusions.  There's a good chance the next cash infusion this spring comes in the form of DIP (debtor in possession) financing for a pre-packaged bankruptcy.  Really, a bankruptcy is the best thing that could happen to GM as it's the only legal way it's going to be able to restructure in a way that allows for long term survival.  Chrysler is in the same boat, but Ford is in substantially better financial shape and will probably avoid bankruptcy.  If the government really wanted to help Detroit it would be better off using part of that money to supply seed funding to several new car companies but unbordened by past liabilities and being smaller and more agile could be more innovative.

9. Regional bank failures and consolidation accelerate

I was somewhat shocked to only see 25 bank failures on the FDIC's Failed Bank List at the end of the year.  Though you could realistically add several others like Wachovia that when through FDIC forced/assisted mergers.  To me not proof that the banking system is in better shape than I thought, but rather that the FDIC and OTS are even more incompetent than I thought.  There are dozens, probably more like hundreds of regional banks that appear better capitalized than they really are, due to um, creative accounting. As far as the biggest of the banks go, keep an eye on Wells Fargo, who've continued to profess they are clean, just don't look to far into their books.

Allowing them to continue to operate while realistically very under-capitalized is putting more and more depositor and tax payer money at risk.  These bank failures and mergers mean that the banking system will continue to consolidate into a few super banks, clearly including the likes of Citigroup, Bank of America, JP Morgan/Chase, etc.  The problem is these are some of the worst offenders out there, they simply get to survive because they happened to be the biggest thus are getting the direct government assistance.  Is this really good for America?  I think you know the answer to that one.

10. A revolt against corruption

The last 10 years ago has probably been some of the most corrupt years this country has seen at all levels both government and corporate.  Much of this corruption still has yet to get the exposure it rightfully deserves.  What was once frowned upon became the status quo.

Maybe this is more of a hope than a prediction, but 2009 may mark a turning point in this cycle.  Maybe it'll be a new incoming president (for the record I think both parties are equally as corrupt) or maybe the spreading economic problems will finally cause people not to be able to afford their cable bill, thus interrupt their stream of American Idol and Dancing With The Stars.  I don't know but hopefully people not only wake up but start to display the outrage needed to actually change things.

 

52 Comments on 2009 Market and Economic Predictions

JAN
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Really I'm not a depressing guy in real life, really...

3:45pm • #1
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Matt ... lots of challenging stuff there on your 2009 Real Estate Predictions article.  You must spend considerable time analyzing news and the economy.  I enjoy that too and am busy with other stuff, like the real estate business itself.  Best wishes. Harrison

3:59pm • #2

Your predictions are depressing, but the overall outlook is grim and not your fault. I'm particularly interested in the hyper inflationary scenario you mentioned. I truly doubt the US will default on our debt if it comes down to it, therefore the govt will need inflation in order to make paying off the debt that much easier. It will all work itself out...my concern is how long will it take.

Damon Pace
4:00pm • #3
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Fascinating and IMO, right on target. 

#10 interests me the most.  I've been thinking about this lately.  I mentioned in some post in the past couple of days that the off year election in 1010 will tell if the American citizen has finally developed a sufficiency of outrage to show it at the polls when we vote these fool out and vote some new fools in. 

I recall vividly the election in 1994 which turned things upside down.  Things are just sliding along now and considering who's in and who's out, doesn't make that much difference. 

I know one thing for sure.  Once it was clear that our regulatory institutions were worthless, folks are simply feeling hopeless. 

Hopelessness often leads to outrage and the need to "do something".  The question is, what to do. 

Happy New Year Matt. 

Yeah, right!

4:04pm • #4

Yes, you read that right 103%,

Ouch!  I didn't know that about CalPERS.  Sounds like some heads should roll.  :(

Whew, what a read.  Can I send you a box of chocolates, or something, to ease the pain?  :)

4:23pm • #5
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Matt- I knew I didn't want to read this...as I was sure you would be right on, and that the news wasn't going to be good.  Ok...so now I know, and thank you.

4:32pm • #6
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Great info Matt! It will be a challenging year, but we are up for it. Good luck to you in 2009!

4:35pm • #7
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I can vouch for ya Matt...as I've met you.

But the truth is the truth and we all love you for it. (was i convincing?) :)

6:20pm • #8
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Matt, Your post makes me want to slice my wrist and jump off a cliff!!!! Holy crap man. Personally I predict an EXCELLENT year for my business. I plan on helping a whole ton of folks muddle through short sales. I hope you are not batting 10 for 10 next year :)

7:43pm • #9
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"Matt, Your post makes me want to slice my wrist and jump off a cliff!!!! Holy crap man."

There's a reason I stopped writing many economic posts and following things too closely, it was a little depressing and frustrating, not because I didn't see plenty to write about.  I'll be very happy is I bat .100, just getting #10 right :)

"Personally I predict an EXCELLENT year for my business."

That's great, just because the economy in general sucks, doesn't mean there aren't a ton of opportunities out there.  I predict my new business is gonna do great too.

 

7:57pm • #10
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Matt, This is a tough read for sure. I hope that you miss the mark on all but #10. It's about time we wise up, stand up and do the right thing by not continuing to support corrupt businesses, and not put the crooks back into office.

There's got to be a way!

8:23pm • #11
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I actually chuckled a bit at #10...  I think that a large percentage of 53% of the population will be shocked over the last election... 

9:29pm • #12
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Hi Mat;

Great post and I appreciate your predictions, I do believe that corruption is a bad thing and we have our share. Happy New Year!

9:55pm • #13

Sad, but true. The best will make the best out of the worst.

9:57pm • #14
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Matt,

I have a feeling you'll probably have most if not all the right predictions.

10:00pm • #15

Grim.

10:00pm • #16
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I am very impressed with the amount of time you took to post your predictions. Thank you.

10:09pm • #17
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UGH!!! Not a very fun thing to read, but we will all survive and be better because of it!!!

10:11pm • #18
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unfortunately, I agree with your assesment for 2009; however, i thing it is going to get even worst, go to prisonplanet.com and check out alex jones.

10:26pm • #19
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Matt,

Very interesting. People say it is depressing, but this is what you see. If this is depressing close your eyes. If we are going to live theorugh it, so we need to know and understand it.

A lot of food for thought, thanks

10:44pm • #20
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You're probably right on target with your predictions.  Sometimes I'm glad I never invested in a retirement account, and paid down the mortgage instead.  Hope the new year brings you some good news!

11:10pm • #21
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Geeze, Matt!  What a freakin bummer! 

Sitting here in our nation's capital and reading this - it's not just corruption.  It's also stupidity.  The only thing allowing me to cling to any optimism is that I do think Obama is incredibly smart and will surround himself with some of the best minds in the country.  What a challenge for the new administration to take on!

11:41pm • #22
JAN
03
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Wow Matt. Why did I read this?? Just kidding. :) It is bleak, but dead on I'm sure. I will however in spite of it keeping bothering my government officials and make this a great year for my business.

12:58am • #23
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interesting points Matt - a little bleak but very interesting

more millionaires are born in these types of years than in the good years so there are opportunities to be had for those willing to go after success

To search all the current home listings in Charleston, SC, please visit http://www.CharlestonPierPartners.com

Randall Sandin, 843-209-9667, rsandin@carolinaone.com

 

5:50am • #24
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Matt, and in the midst of all the crap going on, I had a great year and expect to do even better in 2009. Yea it is harder to work in but you can sell homes and buyers can buy. It will be interesting to read this in Dec 2009, to see what actually happens. You are so smart, I don't take anything you say lightly.

6:11am • #25
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Matt, I read your 2008 predictions and was amazed at how dead on you were.   I also read this post (your predictions for 2009) and hope you are wrong in several areas, but am not holding my breath.

6:21am • #26
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Matt, I won't be surprised to see much if not most of these predictions come true.  However, like Bryant, I also see a great year for my business and many opportunities for others.  Your life and your business are what you make it despite the greater economy. 

6:27am • #27
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Matt, So it's YOUR fault that our economy is in the toilet, lol..just kidding.  We are in a fine mess, aren't we?  I'm with you on most of your predictions. #10: I surely hope that we are SICK and tired of the corrupt stealing money from us and that we DO get angry enough to finally shoot that dog in the butt.  Enough is enough.  I pray you are wrong about #9, but have a feeling you are right.  That will truly put many in a spiraling down, with little faith in our so called "American Dreams".  I appreciate your honesty and respect you for your opinions and sharing them with us all, whether I like them or not.  Now, I'm off to stick my heads back up in the clouds...it's a much safer place to be:)

7:08am • #28
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Matt: I would love to read your antidotes to these issues. Diagnosis is an art and I appreciate your post, but what you DO with this information - living in the solution is what matters to me.

7:19am • #29
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Matt,

You are right on.  One more.  If Active rain had a system that deleted members after a long absence you would see a lot less members because they are out of the industry

7:30am • #30
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Matt,

Finally, somebody out there that is talking some real sense about what is going on.

I agree with everything and I am still dumb founded at the level of optimism from the "experts".

The most worrying thing is the Treasury market.

My only suggestion is to expect the unexpected.

7:40am • #31
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Matt, You describe a depressing outlook. I can't say that I disagree.

 Makes you want to just get frozen and wake up in a year or two!

   Happy New Year, Greg

8:17am • #32
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Morning Matt,  Of course, I hope you are wrong on the first nine of your predictions.  What does your crystal ball say about the NAR ?

8:43am • #33
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WOW, I hope you are wrong, but in my gut I feel you are correct.  Things are going to get a lot worse before they can get better and we all just have to find a "different" way to do business.

9:06am • #34
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Matt, I found your Wells Fargo observation of particular interest- when we review lis pendens, they are RIGHT UP THERE as lenders for distressed properties in this area. They've also requested (per a company that has some of their foreclosures) that a sign not go up in front of the property. I've wondered for some time about their self-proclamation that they're above the fray somehow.

9:36am • #35
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Gee, I wish I hadn't read this and hope you are wrong. Like Missy, I had a good year, and signs for 2009 are positive even though we both live in shaky manufacturing states. And I just signed up for my prior company's pension.

I think #10 is going to become more of an influence. Even though we can't immediately vote the bums out, I think the citizens are going to require more immediate accountability from the politicians. Maybe we need to act more like we did in the late 60's and early 70's. I think Jim Crawford did a post on that quite some time ago. Need to get out the Flower Power clothes!

9:45am • #36
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normally i would say what a fantastic and insightful list this is that you have put together, which it is, but yes, we need some more optimism (even if you are right  :)

9:59am • #37
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OK Matt, I'm going back to bed. Wake me when its over:)

10:46am • #38
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Matt: Thank you. I like your sensible predictions. I, for one, am hopeful that 2009 will be better than 2008 in the real estate world. Almost everyone I know had a slow year and are hoping that by surviving they'll be rewarded. We shall see. I wouldn't be surprised if there'a an uptick in activity by the Spring or Summer.

11:12am • #39
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I have great respect for your grasp of the big picture and must admit, while I don't know as much about all of what you have written, I have definitely felt that we haven't seen the worst yet and in areas like mine in NC where many thought we would get through this unscathed, I have a strong feeling that we are going to be hit very hard this year.  Late to the game but now loosing NASCAR jobs, Wachovia, etc. it is going to be a tough year.  Like Missy, I am very busy right now so hope to keep this trend up no matter what. 

11:37am • #40
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I guess everyone is depressed because they don't know how to use your bleak predictions to make money.

If you think the stock market is going down, why not buy ETFs that go up twice as fast as the market goes down.  Check out QID for the NASDAQ or SDS for the S&P. 

If you think hyperinflation is a possibility, it might pay to have some physical gold or silver stashed away.  You might want to store up on essentials and things that you will be able to trade with such as cigarettes and whiskey. 

If you think bonds are the next bubble, buy the double inverse ETF for 20 yr treasuries, TBT.

All things have risks and timing is pretty important.  But there are tools to take advantage of many bad situations.

It's only depressing when  you don't know what to do.  The optimists will just keep saying things aren't that bad while they find out it's too late to do anything.  Most people will stand shell shocked and just watch things unfold and accept it all as being out of their control. 

I think you have to become an Active Optimist.  See things as they are and do what it takes to stay ahead of the game.  I like a good game so I'm really excited.  Life would be easier if it all weren't happening but if we're forced to be in the game, why not try to play hard and come out on top.

12:23pm • #41
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Matt, I agree with you, it won't get better this year. Realism is a tough sale.

12:23pm • #42

Why was I ever born before 2010?! Matt, I can't say "great stuff" cause it's not great but it's probably true:( Last year's predictions seem like a joke:)

12:34pm • #43
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Matt ~ I'm bookmarking this post and plan to read it in 6 months and again in 12 and hope that not all these dire predictions come true .... but it is helpful info to share with us.  I'm glad to see that you mention real estate as the best performing asset in the event of hyper-inflation.  Hopefully that keeps the market going  (and for my part I plan to help those sellers' homes look the very best they can with quality staging that appeals to the buyers).

12:47pm • #44
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Matt, I went back and read your 2008 predictions, and you were very much on target.  I remembered that I'd disagreed with you on the timing of the rally on the dollar.  To be honest, with all the economic chaos that's happened in the last couple of months, following the dollars drop or rise has fallen by the wayside.  Could you give an update on that?

The issue of the loss in capital within the pension funds is the biggest story under-told in my opinion in 2008.  But, there is opportunity within this mess...it just takes digging through the dirt to mine the gold.  Sounds like you're up to it!   Happy New Year. :)

1:23pm • #45
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I certainly hope # 10 is correct.  The corruption we've witnessed is beyond belief.

1:52pm • #46

We shall see but it made me laugh this past week when I overheard at a party several people saying how the world was going to change and blue skies were ahead as soon as Obama takes office. Poor guy has a lot to live up to.

I think one of the first thing Americans need to do is kick everyone out of office and start over. Term limits need to be set at MAX 4 years for every office in every state.

Corruption is killing us. You just cannot have CEOs taking 50 to over 100 million dollars a year out of companies and asking the grunt down the line to take benefit reductions and pay cuts and expect them to take it forever. It doesn't work. I'm fine with people making a great living but bleeding good companies and killing the employee to do it is corruption on the front lines. Some of us and probably our family members work for CEOs doing this. I totally believe there needs to be some type of revolt or massive clean up of the corruption in this country. It has to happen and if it means kicking out CEOs and government officials by force maybe that's what it will take. We are better than this. We certainly do have a handful of greedy bastards at the top running this country into the ground. If we as a country are like addicts then maybe we need to hit bottom before we can see the light.

Americans also need to learn to curb their appitite for instant gratification and CREDIT. I see clients with crdit card debt that if I had that much debt I would never sleep a wink. I don't know how they do it.

2:12pm • #47
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Thanks for the guidance Matt, the graphics are great.

4:08pm • #48
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Fortunately, a number of your predictions will not materialize in Canada, except for the spillover effect. But, I hope you are right on the money when it comes to corruption.

In Canada, we simply don't catch people, because we don't have well-funded enforcement agencies. Consequently, many potential issues are simply undiscovered.

You might have noticed some of our most notorious offenders get away with it here, but are "caught" when they are brazen enough to do the same thing in the United States.

Brian Madigan

5:17pm • #49
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God willing alot of what you predict will be wrong.  The logic is there, but what we have not seen in my lifetime is over 50 percent of our country worshiping a president....not merely supporting a president.  The positive that this can create is extreme consumer confidence moving faster than anyone could possibly predict.

I honestly am taking the gamble that this will happen and we will see major increases in consumer confidence starting maybe this month...then major spikes in February and March.  If this does happen we will see a snow ball effect of confidence in the stock market which will move to the housing market that should offset to some degree of the negative news that will occur in the market.  I do see numbers getting worse; but I see consumer confidence increasing dramatically which should cause the economy in the central part of the US to immediately rebound and cause somewhat stabilization in the west and east coasts at some point this year. 

This cat has more power over peoples' emotion than I have seen seen MLK.  Time will tell.........

10:27pm • #50

Matt your predictions are pretty close. They sound pretty bleak but almost on the money. My husband has a economic degree and he agrees with you completly. Brian I feel you are wrong it has spilled over into Canada. All the American companies like Wells Fargo and HSBC have pulled out of auto financing already in Canada. It looks bleak for the auto industry if they cannot finance loans to consumers and have to turn to the real banks for it and in turn the banks are choking the money and not lending to people. Housing is in the rocks and consumers are losing whatever equity they have in their homes. Housing is just not selling no matter if the banks drop their rates. Banks choke the consumer in turn the consumer chokes their spending which will spill into the other retail sections and other sections. A chain reaction and then unemployment, foreclosures, bankrupcties are running rampant. This economic reccession has not hit the bottom of the barrel yet and the downward spiral will continue to fall. History is repeating itself and greed plays a big part of it and funny thing is they still don't learn from their mistakes and continue to make the same mistakes.

10:50pm • #51
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It will be a challenging year, but as in all real estate cycles there will be pockets of opportunity.

10:21pm • #52

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