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As I write this, it's January 3rd, 2009. Almost everyone who is reading this had/has a goal in 2009 to get 'more organized' and streamline tasks associated with being a successful, productive agent. As listing inventory continues to reach record levels, and the buyer pool shrinks even more due to mortgage industry changes and other factors, Realtors are forced to carry more business 'in their pipeline'. Gaining new leads and managing them has become just as important as converting them, because failure to do so means there will be nothing available to 'convert' down the road.

How many Realtors buy software or subscribe to online management systems designed to help them, only to find that they flushed valuable dollars down the drain? There are so many products available to choose from, it seems that some companies exist merely to pocket as many 'non-users' as possible. Even worse, how many Realtors actually attempt to use the tools they have paid for, only to find out they do not have the time to learn the software and utilize it? Or my biggest pet peeve - I subscribe, only to learn a little too late that their tech support takes forever to respond, or doesn't even offer phone support, or worse yet, has very limited 'banker' hours. Realtors work non-typical hours, you need Tech support in the evening! In the early morning! On Saturday!

While I have worked with numerous database/contact management software companies and Intranet providers, I cannot recommend any one over the other to the general Realtor population. You are all different, with different types of leads and needs, and what works for one will not work for the other. When an agent asks us 'What should I use?' our response is always 'What's your biggest need right now?'

In an effort to help you make the right choices out there, and save you time and frustration, follow these simple guidelines when shopping for a new contact management/database service. Whether you are signing up for the first time or looking for a change, it can't hurt to have this checklist handy:

  • How much time will you have to devote to learning the software in the beginning? If you don't have a spare second to learn the basics, this is clearly NOT a good time to buy/subscribe. Pencil the time in your planner, treat it like an appointment with a client, THEN buy.
  • Don't purchase or subscribe to a plan that does not give you a free trial or a money back guarantee. There are too many companies that support Realtors and stay in business on 'turnover' profit. This means they have no intention of keeping you as a long term customer - if you are with them for two-four months out of twelve, they got what they needed from you.
  • Ask about the hours of Tech support and response time, and be sure to test it at least FIVE times during your free trial. Slow to respond? Unavailable to answer questions on Saturdays? Not available in the evenings? Move on. There are too many cutting edge companies that are available to help you use their product when YOU need them.
  • What EXACTLY do you want this product to do? Store all your leads, and automatically contact them on a regular basis? Customize the content of each email? Is there anything on this list that can already be done by signing your leads up in your MLS as a potential buyer? Make a short list of what you would like the software to do, and don't get caught up in bells and whistles. What good will the service be if it sends a sleek looking email to every buyer in your pipeline, but you can't even tell if they opened it or not?
  • Start simple. Most programs are very affordable. If the system does not have everything you want in one source, but it completes your most important task efficiently and precisely, consider purchasing it and getting a second software program for the other tasks.
  • Look for a system that will enable you to divide your contact system into three categories: Before, During and After. (Before the escrow (leads), During the escrow, and After the closing). This will help you maximize the contact and create specific content that is relative to your client. You don't want a potential buyer to receive your favorite recipe! And you don't want a past client to receive '10 tips for Buying in Today's Market' when they already purchased a home from you last year! Automated, pre-designed content is not information or 'contact', it's SPAM, and you don't need your good name affiliated with such an ugly word!

As a Virtual Assistant company who supports a myriad of Realtors who are in every stage of their career, we have at least THREE different management systems at any one time. One to manage your tasks, another to keep in touch, and yet another to manage email alone. This enables us to delegate the work effectively, monitor progress, and run smoothly on any given day, no matter how many unexpected tasks are thrown our way! As a Realtor, you should consider doing the same.

Responses/Reviews are welcome from those of you who have a success story using software. To keep from going 'off topic', please do not post only negative experiences with software companies. Every negative should be followed by a positive so we can learn something. If you represent a database management company, please identify yourself as a salesperson or developer so that we may view your experience objectively.

 

Julie Chapman
Julie Chapman Broker - Ormond Beach, FL
Daytona Beach Shores, Florida

Marlelle,

I have nothing to offer but I have this post on bookmark because I am expecting to see some great answers......

Jan 03, 2009 11:12 AM
Anonymous
scott

I wanted to post a few suggestions.  Almost all products offer a free trial, so the nest thing to do is pick a few and try them.  the best product is one you will use and real estate is one of those fields which is so diverse.  So, I hear people who are looking for the most complete and comprehensive solution at any price and for them, perhaps Top Producer is the best fit.  For others, they are looking for ease of use, speed, simplicity and low price is a factor - for them perhaps RealtyJuggler is the way to go.  Others may not want an online solution and would prefer something they install on their own computer - so perhaps REST is what they are looking for.  if you add in the ability to access your information via your SmartPhone, that really winnows the list down considerably from there.

 

One other thing I would also suggest - be careful about looking at raw features and comparing at just that level.  What you really want to do is make sure that the product is solid, works for you quickly and reliably and all of that.  There's really no better way to test that then doing the free trial.

Mar 04, 2009 04:26 AM
#2
Gary David Hall
RE-ACT, LLC - Doylestown, PA
Real Estate CRM Sales, Training and Implementation

Good article Markelle. One comment I would make is that out of the 29 CRM's I have interviewed, NONE commit to providing support on the weekends. Note I used the word "Commit". Some will do so when they can, but none will commit to consistently responding on the weekend, as is evidenced by what they themselves filled out on that subject in my Matrix.

FYI - My Real Estate Contact Management and CRM Comparison Matrix is finished! This Matrix allows you to easily compare almost 30 Real Estate Contact Management and CRM software products across 350 features, while learning about all the possible features with a 15,000+ word glossary.

Mar 16, 2009 07:19 AM
Markelle Harden
Classy Inbound - Charlotte, NC
Digital Marketing Specialist

WOW! I just may have to get a copy of that list, thank you! Just out of curiosity, did you include Highrise by 37 signals in your comparison? I recently started using a 37 signals program and I'm very impressed, I hope to promote Highrise as my #1 recommendation after a more thorough review. Thanks again for the info, I'm sure many Realtors here will find it very helpful (as will Virtual Assistants).

Mar 16, 2009 08:01 AM
Gary David Hall
RE-ACT, LLC - Doylestown, PA
Real Estate CRM Sales, Training and Implementation

I hadn't heard of Highrise, probably because it is not Real Estate specific. I operate under the premise that Real Estate agents should be spending their time using CRM software that is already set up for what they do, so they can be out making money doing what they do best. Using software that is not already Real Estate specific is not the highest and best use of their time, in my opinion.

I qualify my opinion as follows:

I started residential Real Estate sales in 1987 and finished in 1994 when I was doing 40 - 50 sides/yr.

I first used Outlook and then many different others

I've been teaching, consulting and training agents in Real Estate technology since 1995, with a foucus on organization with respect to accountability, risk reduction, follow-up, and systematizatoin of the processes.

I have implemented systems for agents and teams all over the world.

For more help with CRM's - Check out my home page for:

Considerations when choosing a Real Estate Contact Manager or CRM

A 60 minute Power Point Presentation by Gary David Hall Prepared for the Real Estate Cyberspace Society's 2009 Cyber Convention

OR

A History of Contact Management in Real Estate - Article

"...comprehensive, unbiased,........aspects of making a decision on CRM I never even thought of......... far and away the best article of it's kind I've ever seen on the Internet..."

OR Interview by The Lead Booster Club CEO Kathy Goughenour

Kathy interviews Gary for her membership for an hour, with a wide range of questions about Real Estate Contact Management & CRM Productivity Software

Mar 17, 2009 07:03 AM
Markelle Harden
Classy Inbound - Charlotte, NC
Digital Marketing Specialist

I have to say I disagree with the statement 'Real Estate agents should be spending their time using CRM software that is already set up for what they do'. Real estate associations (local and national) have led Realtors to believe that the only way to do CRM or lead generation tracking is by purchasing something that is advertised in their glossy Realtor magazine or their local association newsletter. I came from a very large market, and I found it insulting to see my association promoting systems and services that did not make a lot of sense in the long run for the average agent and their budget (and brokers who don't discourage their agents from spending spending spending their way to success, but that's a different blog). Companies promoted by NAR and state associations aren't necessarily better for Realtors than other software geared toward client & Project tracking; I believe they just spend more advertising dollars in our publications and have arrangements with other Realtor based companies.  

Realtors are hit very hard with third party companies who want a piece of the Real Estate pie. In the current market, it is more important than ever to keep yourself from throwing money away on software that has a myriad of features you will never utilize, or worse yet, you have to pay someone else to take the time to set it up because it's too difficult for you to do. (It's OK to pay someone else if you're busy, but if you're the e-pro and the Internet saavy Realtor, shouldn't you know how to create a drip campaign and upload a contact just in case your staff flakes out on you, or you have to train an assistant?) I'm sure at one time, it was accurate to assume the association or NAR had the best products to offer, but with the onset of software enterpreunership and the Internet, Realtors have options like they never had before. There are plenty of business model software programs, like 37 Signals (the makers of Highrise) that are even more user friendly than the top software programs geared specifically to Realtors. That being said, one does have to consider the longevity of a company when selecting their software. Imagine choosing a company, and within a year, they no longer exist. Even further, imagine it was 100% online, and there is no 'back up'. That would be a nightmare! Yet another factor to consider...

I will blog in the future regarding Highrise, and you are more than welcome to use that information. In the meantime, I will definitely be ordering a copy of your comparison, I can't wait to read it! Thanks for the opinion, I hope you don't mind the debate.

Mar 17, 2009 09:58 AM
Gary David Hall
RE-ACT, LLC - Doylestown, PA
Real Estate CRM Sales, Training and Implementation

Debate is good! :-) That's one of the reasons I like being a student of, and a broker for all these products. I don't have to be "loyal" to any one of them, so I can be on any side of the debate when it's justified. I agree about Associations promoting products. For that matter, franchises are even more guilty of it. The worst part is that neither of them do it because they know it to be the best product. They usually, not always, do it for revenue. That's how Agent Office got to be second in market share. They jumped in with RE/MAX right away, paying them to be listed as an "Approved  RE/MAX Supplier".

I don't think we're very far off on our opinions though. It sounds like your primary objection to Real Estate specific software is the cost. If that's the case - I certainly can't disagree that some of them are quite expensive. But Highrise is $30/mo. which puts it in the realm of the more expensive ones that are RE specific. Top Producer for instance is $40/mo. WiseAgent Is $25/mo.  As a matter of fact though, my overall favorite for many agents generally speaking, is not advertised virtually anywhere, is not recommended by a franchise or association, and I could make more money personally selling many of the others in my selection. And it's one of the least expensive ones available. It's also considered to be the easiest one to learn and use by most of it's users. I ofttimes in fact, talk people out of some of the more expensive ones. What I don't do though, is recommend non-Real Estate specific products, to people because they then have to spend their time figuring out work-arounds to accommodate Real Estate specific needs. very few agents have the ability, time, or inclination to do that.

So while the product I sell the most of also happens to be one of the cheapest ways you can go with regards to contact management software, I don't believe the cost should be the primary focus. Whether you spend $300 up front and no monthly fees, or $30/mo., using the right solution will save you far more than the cost of the software. After you are doing 20 or 30 sides/yr., there is simply no time left in the day, and production plateaus. At that point, time is your most valuable commodity. Every minute you save through the efficient use of the right software solution for you, counts. Saving $5 or $10/mo. Or $100 up front feels easier on the wallet, but in the long run, it can cost you much more. Take a look around you at who makes the most money. Agents who are willing to spend (pronounce that INVEST) some money in their business, are generally the ones who make the most money. That doesn't mean spending money in and of itself is smart. Just because everyone has their hand out, doesn't mean you have to put something in it. Investing money in your business WISELY is the mark of a good business person. Spending money un-wisely - not so much.

Apr 08, 2009 05:48 AM
Thomas Moore
www.eBrokerHouse.com - Las Vegas, NV

Please check out my new virtual office that I created

www.eBrokerHouse.com

Its very affordable and it works great for traditional listings, reo's , and short sales.

It's completely web based and you can create sub users to your account with out being charged extra!

Manage all your listings, tasks, contacts, reimbursements, and offers!

There is a FREE 30 day free trial so test away

 

Apr 08, 2009 04:04 PM
Anonymous
Matthew Hardy

Please allow me to introduce you to Real Estate Success Tracker - aka REST.

Of course, if we can help in any way, we'd love to.

 

Matthew Hardy

CEO/President

Real Estate Success Tools

480-626-4461

mhardy@realestatesuccesstools.com

www.realestatesuccesstools.com

Apr 23, 2009 10:39 AM
#10
Roy Kohn
RE/MAX Allegiance - Burke, VA

I am in the middle of trying to find the "perfect solution" and I too may give highrisehq and Outlook a go. But I really liked a couple of others as well.

Oprius is almost perfect for most every need except that they have a double opt in requirement for mass email. When someone opts in for my site and then gets there, I don't want them to be encouraged to opt out prior to learning anything about me. That is the only reason I can't use them but I do understand why they do it.It's a perfect solution for most sales people but I use buyerlinks and it just can't work for me.

PipelineDeals in also in the runnning and is very nice.

Top Producer is the biggest real estate specific, CRM for REALTORS (so is unlikely to go under) but I willprobably cancel within my 30 day trial.

BatchBlue, BigContacts, Relenta are all worthy, in my opinion, of a look.

No one knows me but I do have a decade of technology training under my belt with my former, large Broker. The market went bad here in Oct of '05 so I've been back selling real estate full time with no database. Another consideration that goes hand in hand with my Contact Manager or CRM is the phone. I'm a decade (or more) user of Windows Mobile but I'm increasingly tired of the problems, crashes and breaking devices that I continually embrace. Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Storm or the iphone will be my next choice (so let it be written... so let it be done) watch me get another Windows Mobile though.

May 17, 2009 03:22 PM
Markelle Harden
Classy Inbound - Charlotte, NC
Digital Marketing Specialist

Thanks Roy! Your reply was exactly what I was looking for - Realtors to share their personal experience. Every Realtor has a different need for software, and one size fits all will never work for Realtors.

Pipeline Deals does look great; but if you don't use Outlook, it appears you may be missing out on some of the key features?

Have you checked out Constant Contact for your e-newsletter campaign? It's affordable enough to add on to your CRM costs.

I converted from Palm to Blackberry and will never go back. I have the Blackberry Curve and am very pleased with the conversion.

May 19, 2009 01:39 AM
Markelle Harden
Classy Inbound - Charlotte, NC
Digital Marketing Specialist

Well folks, it's been six months since we've started this discussion, and I don't believe we've received any clear feedback for one software company over the others. Again, everyone has different needs and different ways to run their business, but there are some common goals among Realtors:

  • Receive and Manage Leads, convert them into buyers and sellers
  • Simplify keeping in touch with past clients. Over 40% of buyers and sellers utilize a Realtor who was referred to them by a friend/family member. EVERY Realtor needs an organized, clear cut, automatic system of staying in touch, period.
  • Manage, track, and record marketing activities, either on listings, prospective buyers, or both.
  • Increase referral rates by utilizing excellent communication and service delivery during the course of a purchase or sale

What software can accomplish these 4 tasks, is affordable, and has frequent free training sessions and excellent tech support? I vote for Top Producer 8i. I know, shocking! I still like non-Real Estate based software for certain tasks and organization, but when you are limited on time, one program to start with is best. Surprisingly, 8i is MUCH more user friendly that it's predecessor, 7i. Don't believe me? Try it. I double dog dare you! It's JUNE!! If you've been looking for a centralized system to get this ball rolling, NOW is the time. Don't have the time? Then maybe it's time to hire that Virtual Assistant too who can help you with your To Do list for 2009!

Any other votes out there for programs that accomplish these four general tasks affordably and with ease? Debate is welcome!

Jun 05, 2009 09:28 AM
Jaclyn Erwin
Jackson Erwin Realty, Inc. - Charlotte, NC
ABR,SFR, REALTORĀ®/BROKER, Charlotte NC.

Markelle,

Outstanding Post! This is another reason why I simply LOVE Active Rain! You can utilize the search feature to research any real estate topic, program or system and there's always someone who is more knowledgeable, experienced and willing to share.

I am conducting some research of my own today---(I'm in the second hour!) for a Contact Management Database for my practice. I am making some major changes targeted towards systems that are mre efficient, customized and affordable. I'm analyzing what works, eliminating what doesn't and tweaking those systems towards perfection.  

I remember using Top Producer years back. It was too bust for me, as I really desired something more simple at that time. Now, my business has grown and I need more systems to work harder for me, to free-up my time more more hands-on direct client activity. I'm happy to see it mentioned here that TP 8i offers a free trial. I guess I will give it a try to see if it's really worth purchasing.   

Does anyone have access/a link to the 30 day Free Trial?

Aug 09, 2009 04:46 AM
Markelle Harden
Classy Inbound - Charlotte, NC
Digital Marketing Specialist

Hi Jaclyn! I'm glad you found this post helpful - and even happier you FOUND it. Sometimes these things get buried!

 

Here's a link to our local rep's TP web site, there is an info box on his site:

http://www.tptim.com/

 

I think you are right on when you say that the Top Producer of yesterday was not going to work for your business because it lacked simplicity. The new 8i is by no means simple; but a novice user can start out of the gate using basic features. It only becomes easier and even more productive after a few months of use and training. Looking forward to feedback from your experience!

Aug 09, 2009 01:18 PM
Scott Schmitz
RealOrganized, Inc. - Fort Collins, CO
Real Estate CRM Software

Jaclyn,

I think you have identified some core capabilities of a real estate CRM system.  There are certainly many products that could fit that criteria.  I would like to add a few things that I think are worthy of consideration as well:

- Ability to access or synchronize your information with other devices, like cell phones, PDA's and the like. I suppose this is a given. but I think it is worthy of consideration.  The devices that people use are pretty diverse - Blackberry, iPhone and the variety is likely to continue.  So, I would suggest that you want to pick a solution that has some level of flexibility in allowing you access to your contacts and calendar.

- Something that is simple to use.  It really makes no sense to purchase a system that's really powerful, if you never take advantage of it.  Technology seems to follow the pattern where the geeks and power users make lots of requests to software vendors and the vendors respond by adding tons of features to the products.  In the end, the products can get bloated and difficult to use.  So, I think it's well worth your consideration as to what kind of learning curve the product has.  Not everyone is a power-user or super-geek.  In fact, I would argue that most people would benefit from a product with fewer features that are easier to understand than a ton of features that are difficult to grasp.

- Something that can be used efficiently.  Again, it makes no sense to use a system that takes a long time to get basic tasks done.  For example, if you get a call and need to pull up a clients record, you had better be able to do it in a few seconds.  Pull out a stopwatch and time yourself - pull up a random record and add a note to the record.  How long did that take?

- I know a lot of people say cost should not be a consideration, but I respectfully disagree.  There's some pretty large differences in cost between using something basic and Top Producer.  Many people end up purchasing a high-end product and end up using it as nothing more than a glorified rolodex.  I think this is particularly important when the economy turns down and you are looking to keep monthly expenses to a minimum.  I have seen a number of new clients shifting to RealtyJuggler (the product we publish) from more expensive systems precisely because of cost.  With some competing products the costs can be amazingly high, especially if you purchase all the add-ons.

 

 

Aug 12, 2009 04:40 PM
Jaclyn Erwin
Jackson Erwin Realty, Inc. - Charlotte, NC
ABR,SFR, REALTORĀ®/BROKER, Charlotte NC.

Scott,

Thanks for the wonderful information! I am trying out a few new systems during the free trials. RealtyJuggler is one of them. You raised a valid point in advising me to select a system that easily syncs with my Blackberry, as I heavily rely upon my PDA when I am away from the office and out in the field (which is most of the time.)

Equally, I do want something that is easy to maneuver. Being classified as a member of the "Generation-X" era, I am a techie agent--I highly appreciate and enjoy a lot of gadgets, software and hardware. However, I do know the overwhelming feeling we all get when we are faced with an urgency and considerable time constraints. When we want a resolution: We want it right away. That being said, I want a program that meets my business needs, provides room for growth of my practice, has GREAT & FREE tech support w/ quick response time, and is cost effective.

The year 2009 will go down for many of us as the Year of Trials & Review! This year, I believe every practicing agent has been challenged financially and had to learn to (a) quickly adapt to the change (as only the"Survival of the Fittest Survive) or (b) get out of the business.  To adapt, many of us have discovered ways we can cut our operating expenses and replace those ineffective systems/programs.

 I'm personally monitoring my operating budget like a hawk. My practice has sliced well over 50% in costs this year--whether we all liked it or not. It has really helped us stay in the game of real estate.  Currently, our main objective is to implement those tools that will allow us to work smarter and not necessarily harder. Those systems/programs that can do this remain. Those that fail receive the cut. :)

Aug 15, 2009 02:37 AM
Markelle Harden
Classy Inbound - Charlotte, NC
Digital Marketing Specialist

Hello Scott! Thanks for the additional information. One question about Realty Juggler that does not seem to be answered on your home page: Does your software have report capability? If a Realtor wanted to send a seller a report of all activity done on their listing, regarding marketing or showings, can this be accomplished using Realty Juggler?

 

Also, what is customer support like with your product? Hours? Online chat available?

 

Thanks in advance!

Aug 25, 2009 07:28 AM
Russ Ravary ~ Metro Detroit Realtor call (248) 310-6239
Real Estate One - Commerce, MI
Michigan homes for sale ~ yesmyrealtor@gmail.com

Thanks for the good post.  It's helping me to decide which management soluction to use. 

Jan 11, 2010 10:15 AM
Gary David Hall
RE-ACT, LLC - Doylestown, PA
Real Estate CRM Sales, Training and Implementation
Jul 08, 2011 10:27 AM