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It's Dual Agency - Not "Dueling Guns"

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Real Estate Agent with RE/MAX Advantage

I have read some blogs in the past about Dual Agency and have been surprised by some of the content I have read.  It is obvious that some areas of the country are still struggling with this concept and for the life of my I don't understand why it is an issue.  It seems that several Realtors struggle with it and it is a hot topic.  Some attorneys and some states have had some heated discussions.

"I have come to the conclusion that it isn't so much what we say but how we say it".

I don't know the rules for Dual Agency in each state but in our state of Idaho we have Single Agency, Limited Dual Agency, Limited Dual Agency with Assigned Agents, or No Agency.

We are the largest real estate company in our area with the highest inventory so Limited Dual Agency comes up a lot and I have only had one problem in all my years which I will discuss shortly.

When I explain Dual Agency to a buyer or seller I say the following.   "If you and I went into business together and went to an attorney to setup a partnership the first thing the attorney would want to know is who he or she is representing.  As soon as we told the attorney that he/she was representing both of us the attorney would want us to authorize him/her to do just that.  The attorney would go on to say that he/she cannot disclose anything personal about one party to the other"

I go on to say that the same applies to our transaction.  "If you Mr. Buyer inform me this is your offer but you will pay more if the seller does not accept your offer, I cannot disclose this to the seller without your written permission. The same applies for the seller.  If the seller informed me what they would take, I cannot disclose this as well to you".

This has worked extremely well for me.  The only problem I had was when a seller's attorney told my seller I could not be a dual agent on an offer I brought to the seller because I could not get the highest and best offer for my seller via dual agency.  This was a huge issue for me that did not sit well with me.  After months of going back and forth with this attorney the seller finally fired the attorney.

I later sold the sellers farm for 115% of the asking price.  Oh yes, I was a "Dual Agent"

 

Marketed By: George Tallabas - Boise Idaho Real Estate Agent - Associate Broker 
with RE/MAX Advantage, Canyon Counties #1 Brokerage in sales and listings
specializing in Boise Idaho Real Estate and Southwest Idaho Real Estate.

 

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George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate
Thanks Marchel...I know it is different everywhere.  Hope you had a great day
Apr 30, 2007 04:32 PM
ASHEVILLE REALTY REFERRAL RESOURCE 828-776-0779
REAL ESTATE REFERRAL NETWORK - Asheville, NC
CONTACT janeAnne365@gmail.com
In North Carolina we have Dual Agency...I don't like the sound of it...to my clients' ears it sounds like "DUEL" Agency...and that is not a good thing...I'm with Bryant...we need a new name for this kind of representation...
Apr 30, 2007 05:00 PM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate
Thanks JaneAnne....I know it is different every put I have had absolutely no problem with Dual Agency.  I hope all is well.
Apr 30, 2007 05:02 PM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired
Excellent post and well said. I subscribe to the theory that agents that actually care to learn can and most often will do a good job when give the opportunity to represent both the Buyer and the Seller. Attorneys feel that it is usually not possible to do this and I disagree. Not vehemently but I do disagree. Dual agency is not for many who have difficulty in doing one side much less both. But if you have attained the counseling skills and fully understand fiduciary, I agree that it can and should be done when appropriate.
Apr 30, 2007 05:19 PM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate
Thanks William...I have used the verbiage I shared and just don't have any arguments at all.  I feel many attorneys muddy the water more than they need to as I proved in my post.  If we use common sense and explain it the way it is we can avoid a lot of issues. Thanks for your imput and have a great evening.
Apr 30, 2007 05:23 PM
Marlene Bridges
Village Real Estate Services, Inc. - Laguna Hills, CA
Laguna Homes|Laguna Condos|Laguna Real Estate
BRAVO George!  Your analogy of starting a business and going to an attorney is one of the best descriptions I've ever heard.  I'll be borrowing that one from you.  We do have dual agency in Southern California.  I have been delighted to help both buyers and sellers come to an agreement on a number of occasions.  And, both sides felt their interests had been served.
Apr 30, 2007 05:51 PM
Patrick Harfst
Realty Executives - Phoenix AZ - Gilbert, AZ

Hi George,

I learned early on (first year of business) that dual agnecy works best if the Realtor involved does his or her job as if BOTH parties were right there watching... In effect, NEVER say anything in front of either party that you would say even SLIGHTLY different if both parties were right there. And tell them that is your rule. It clears the air quickly when each party knows that you can't be swayed to help them "get over" on the other party. And, agents need to know that even if they try to play one side against the other (this better not happen!) that the buyers and sellers will run into each other somewhere... the mailbox, the store, the school, etc. It will happen, and they compare notes. You stretch the truth even a little bit, you will get caught!

Apr 30, 2007 05:54 PM
Herb Hamilton
RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors - Portland, OR
Real Estate Broker ,CDPE, Downtown Portland
Good for you George. I also use the same technique ( or very similar ) when I discuss dual agency. I also tell them that it is the ultimate in negotiation. No Agents interfering with true negotiations. The property stands on its own merit. I usally then conclude with " Besides I like working with the other agent ( my self ) I always no what he is thinking "
Apr 30, 2007 06:07 PM
Laurie Manny
Long Beach CA Real Estate - Long Beach, CA

I have handled quite a few double ends and have no problem with them.  Everybody wins, it works out great.  I reduce my commission by 1% to the seller, seller wins.  Buyer gets 1%, buyer wins.  I make an extra 1%, I win.  A lot of happy people. 

In the interest of keeping it fair, all parties are in agreement to the terms.  Once a price is agreed upon, the negotiations are OVER!  Buyer is to do any and all inspections to satisfy self of condition of home, listing agent will NOT recommend an inspector in dual agency.  There will be no repair money.  If the inspection indicates any  kind of major issue, all parties will convene in listing agents conference room and either come to a mutually agreed upon decision or shake hands and go their separate ways.   

As long as the terms are clearly laid out and everybody understands that this is going to be handled fairly and equitably there are rarely problems.  I have never had a dual agency fall out of escrow, which I actually think is a miracle.   

I have no problem with dual agency. 

Apr 30, 2007 06:33 PM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

George,

I have had the pleasure of having both sides of the deal on a few occasions and they happily worked out well because I was handling everything.

Most of us..not all in Florida are transaction brokerage....limited confidentiality.

Single agency exists...but I never ran into an agent in any of my deals that was one unless they never disclosed it.

I did have a listing appointment years ago and the guy hired a single agent over me as transaction agent.

He felt i should only represent him.

In NY when I sold RE I was a single agent.

Apr 30, 2007 11:25 PM
Jay Burnham
Coldwell Banker - Beverly, MA
The Coldwell Banker Guy

George...I couldn't agree more that it is all about "how you say it".  The scripts are not that difficult to learn.

Regards,

Jay Burnham, VP
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
North Shore, Massachusetts 

 

 

 

 

May 01, 2007 12:26 AM
Steve Campbell
Century 21 Commonwealth Real Estate - Georgetown, KY

This is a good post.  I am torn on the issue.  It is legal here in KY but personally I side with Broker Bryant here, not knowing if it is possible to hold a fiducary relationship with both clients. 

I guess to me it would be like going through a divorce and both people having the same divorce lawyer.  I know I wouldn't do that.  I do know someone, believe it or not, that did that and the lawyer drug that out for almost 2 years, I wonder why.

Thanks for the geat post.  SC

May 01, 2007 12:46 AM
Monika McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Hampstead, NH
Southern NH & the Seacoast Area
In NH we practice or I should say,most of us practice Disclosed Dual Agency. A skilled competent agent, after gaining INFORMED consent and making the appropriate written disclosure can successfully be a DDA. Note I said competent...you need to know what you're doing when you practice dual agency.
May 01, 2007 01:14 AM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate

Marlene -  Thank you very much and have a great day.

Patrick - Right on

Herb - Thank you, it works wonders for me

Laurie - Very true and well put

Neal - Right on my friend

Jay - Thanks and keep up the good work

Steve - Remember to keep it simple my friend. I have used it for years with no problems.  Have a great day

Monika - Good for you. Take care and have a great day

May 01, 2007 01:40 AM
Christy Powers
Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners - Pooler, GA
Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent

I know some states do not allow dual agency. I think it's a hard situation to be in.

May 01, 2007 05:38 AM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate
Thanks Christy...I have used Dual Agency for years without problems my friend. Have a great day.
May 01, 2007 06:24 AM
Ryan Hukill - Edmond
405home @ ERA Courtyard - Edmond, OK
Realtor, Team Lead
George, great explanation and I'm sure it will help many agents better explain it to clients now. I'm glad to hear your problem case turned out well for you and the attorney lost out. It's always fun to see it go the other way for the "underdog" right? Selling 115% of asking price didn't hurt the seller too much, now did it?
May 01, 2007 10:35 AM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate

Thank you for your support and comments Ryan.  Have a great evening.

May 01, 2007 10:51 AM
Ana Connell
G & C Properties - Burbank, CA
Burbank Real Estate Agent
Excellent comments, great post, I have to say I agree with Bryant, on the name and what it implies.
May 01, 2007 12:58 PM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate

Thanks Ana.  While some states prohibit Dual Agency and some Realtors don't like it I and my office is thriving with it.  Thanks for your comments.

May 01, 2007 01:11 PM