James Wexler wrote a post Stop Foreclosure Evictions - the innocent victim of the housing crisis, in which innocent renters are getting eviction noticeshe discusses the fact that innocent renters are being evicted because even though they have paid their rent, their landlord didn't pay the mortgage payments.  Once the property is foreclosed on, the innocent renter is evicted, and the landlord gets to keep the rents that were paid to him.  James promotes simply stopping all evictions.  This is a noble thought, but because of my legal background, I tend to look at the due process issues involved.  In California they are usually given 30 days to move, but that is still short notice.

If all such foreclosure evictions are prohibited, would a renter simply be able to avoid eviction by claiming not to have known about the foreclosure?  Must there be a full trial in every case to let the renter prove whether he indeed paid his rent to someone who may claim he did not?  If there is no notice requirement, there will be some who take advantage and others who will be advising them on how to take advantage.

It is unfair to the lender to force it to keep the renter in place and become the landlord for some unknown period of time.  It is unfair to the renter not to know for sure how long the moratorium will last or where to make rent payments in the meantime, and unfair to the landlord if he is trying to cure the default while the renter suddenly stops making rent payments to him.  It is a very complicated issue.

court orders evictionWhen a lender is going to start foreclosure with a Notice of Default, he must give written notice by certified mail to the borrower and any second mortgage holder or lienholder.  If the borrower can't cure, there are instances (depending on your state law and the timing) where the second holder can and does cure, so he doesn't lose his security.  When those notices are mailed out, what would you think of another notice going to the renter? 

This could either come from the lender or from the borrower, but should be mandated by law, so the renter would at least know there is a risk in continuing to pay rent to a defaulting landlord.  And if the renter could keep making the rent payments after that fact, but make them to the lender directly or into a trust account, the landlord might still have an opportunity to bring the loan current before it went all the way through foreclosure, andrenters forced to move after foreclosure the rents would have to be used for that purpose rather than other personal expenses of the landlord.  If foreclosure is completed, those funds could go to the lender to offset the amount owed, or could act as seed money for the renter to relocate or to use for down payment to buy a property.

Perhaps under some circumstances he might even be offered an opportunity to buy the house he has rented at foreclosure instead of suddenly being told after the fact that his landlord no longer owns the property and he must leave his home in a short period of time.  This would give the renter a lot of time to decide what to do (from Notice of Default to foreclosure takes several months) instead of a surprise eviction after the foreclosure has taken place. 

renters pay rent to lendersThe early giving of notice to the renter would give the renter legal right to perhaps give notice that he intends to leave before the natural term of a lease, without penalty.  In other words, if he is under a 1 year lease that still has 6 months to go when he receives the notice, he should be able to give 30 days' notice of intention to vacate the premises rather than continuing to pay rent that might not be going where it should.  And he wouldn't have an eviction on his record that he would have to explain in order to be accepted by a new landlord.

Much of my idea is not completely formed, but if states adopted somethingrenters could buy their rental home similar, this might be a solution for everyone that would help the innocent renters while also helping the banks who are troubled sue to the large number of foreclosures.

Imagine the happiness of the renters who could be converted to first time homebuyers or at the very least be assured that they would not be hit with a surprise eviction.

And instead of so many REO Realtors having to be the ones who often have to see to moving unhappy renters out, some of those  Realtors could be helping these renters buy their homes.

What do you think?

 
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10 Comments on One idea to help innocent renters of foreclosed properties - what do you think?

JAN
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Your proposal seems logical and well thought out, but I would not want the NOD sent to the until at least a set number of days after the NOD goes to the owner, but at least a reasonable set number of days prior to the foreclosure being consummated.

7:12pm • #1
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The problem is we need to put things in place that will both meet current needs and avoid other complications for owners in the future when the market is appreciating again.

7:28pm • #2

Great post. It is a growing problem and I do not see a easy answer. If I am renting I guess I would just have to watch the sherrif sale notices.

 

Thanks

Tony

7:39pm • #3
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Stephen, In California at least, there are other notices sent out after the original notice of default, so there would be time to say give them the second notice if not the first.  Maybe landlords who don't want their renters to know they are in default should use the rent money to pay the loan panyments instead of for other things, and then they could avoid the issue.

Heath, I realize this is not the final or even the only thing that needs to be done, but if we don't start somewhere, the evictions that we don't work to prevent will become urgent later.

Tony, You're right.  It is a complicated issue and there is not one answer to fix everything.  I hate the fact that renters would have to take the responsibility to check on their landlord's credit status or check foreclosure postings to see if they wil have to move suddenly.  They are the innocents and they are the ones being punished.

7:49pm • #4
Hit Router

Being heavily in the short sale business, I constantly short sale multiple homes for RE investors that are in financial trouble, and many have renters in these properties.  Often, these renters are current with their rents and not the fault of why the investor got behind.

We almost always initiate the short sale with a contract by an investor, that if successful will keep the renter in the property.  However, as we all know in most markets, a short sale at 60 cents on the dollar for a pretty home won't fly unless the home is trashed.  Because of this, we normally also market the home for a retail buyer. 

Unfortunately, the owner will not want us to market until we are well into the lender negotiation because they do not want the renters to bail. AND WHY?  Because they are not paying the mortgage but they are pocketing the rents.

This really P***es me off.  Sorry.  But as a RE professional who also owns several rental properties myself,  I constantly struggle with the ethical side of this.  But, as a RE agent, my responsibility is with the seller that I represent. 

We are very seriously considering Not taking any more listings where the owner does not fully disclose what is happening.  Either we all need to take a stand or, the government will to the extent we may not like.  

9:15pm • #5
JAN
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The sad fact is that you are right, there is no perfect good answer to the problem tenants AND lenders face when landlords default. California comes close by requiring new owners to give tenants at least 60 days notice to vacate. In some parts of the country, Arizona for example, the new owner after a foreclosure can formally evict the tenants after a 5 day notice to vacate.

One thing we recommend to tenants as a pro-active measure is to use a foreclosure addendum in their next lease that states basically that if the landlord defaults on a mortgage secured by the real property the tenant is leasing then the tenant has the right to void the lease without penalty.

Renting used to be, if nothing else, stable housing. Times have changed. Tenants now must be diligent and pro-active when it comes to making sure that their rental is not in foreclosure. At RentalForeclosure.com we have tried to make it easy for tenants to get this information.

Shawn Shepherd
7:04am • #6

RentalForeclosure.com sounds like it should be a good idea but it apparently doesn't work unless someone inputs information which doesn't seem to be happening in the areas I checked in Minnesota. It's really too bad if as a renter I have to keep checking sites such as this, subscribe to a special newspaper for sheriffs sale notices, go to the sheriff's office to check their list or pay for a special web site to receive the information which may not be complete. Susan's idea is a good one, at least for starters. 

9:02am • #7
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thanks so much for the reference to my blog. This is an important subject and something that is happening more and more often. Thanks for bringing it to light

10:05am • #8
JAN
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Hey, Susan.

Didn't California have a new law that went into effect January 1 to give renters 60 days notice?

3:10am • #9
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Jim, You are right that it was just extended to 60 days notice before they must vacate, but there is no way for the renters to defend against the eviction under current law.  I wish there were a way for renters to be able to get notice that the home is in foreclosure so they would 1. have more notice that they should get ready to move, or 2. have an opportunity to buy it before or at the foreclosure sale.  Once the new owner has taken title, the renter has zero options unless the new owner wants to keep them as tenants.

1:08pm • #10

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