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11 Comments on One idea to help innocent renters of foreclosed properties - what do you think?
Your proposal seems logical and well thought out, but I would not want the NOD sent to the until at least a set number of days after the NOD goes to the owner, but at least a reasonable set number of days prior to the foreclosure being consummated.
The problem is we need to put things in place that will both meet current needs and avoid other complications for owners in the future when the market is appreciating again.
Great post. It is a growing problem and I do not see a easy answer. If I am renting I guess I would just have to watch the sherrif sale notices.
Thanks
Tony
Stephen, In California at least, there are other notices sent out after the original notice of default, so there would be time to say give them the second notice if not the first. Maybe landlords who don't want their renters to know they are in default should use the rent money to pay the loan panyments instead of for other things, and then they could avoid the issue.
Heath, I realize this is not the final or even the only thing that needs to be done, but if we don't start somewhere, the evictions that we don't work to prevent will become urgent later.
Tony, You're right. It is a complicated issue and there is not one answer to fix everything. I hate the fact that renters would have to take the responsibility to check on their landlord's credit status or check foreclosure postings to see if they wil have to move suddenly. They are the innocents and they are the ones being punished.
Being heavily in the short sale business, I constantly short sale multiple homes for RE investors that are in financial trouble, and many have renters in these properties. Often, these renters are current with their rents and not the fault of why the investor got behind.
We almost always initiate the short sale with a contract by an investor, that if successful will keep the renter in the property. However, as we all know in most markets, a short sale at 60 cents on the dollar for a pretty home won't fly unless the home is trashed. Because of this, we normally also market the home for a retail buyer.
Unfortunately, the owner will not want us to market until we are well into the lender negotiation because they do not want the renters to bail. AND WHY? Because they are not paying the mortgage but they are pocketing the rents.
This really P***es me off. Sorry. But as a RE professional who also owns several rental properties myself, I constantly struggle with the ethical side of this. But, as a RE agent, my responsibility is with the seller that I represent.
We are very seriously considering Not taking any more listings where the owner does not fully disclose what is happening. Either we all need to take a stand or, the government will to the extent we may not like.
The sad fact is that you are right, there is no perfect good answer to the problem tenants AND lenders face when landlords default. California comes close by requiring new owners to give tenants at least 60 days notice to vacate. In some parts of the country, Arizona for example, the new owner after a foreclosure can formally evict the tenants after a 5 day notice to vacate.
One thing we recommend to tenants as a pro-active measure is to use a foreclosure addendum in their next lease that states basically that if the landlord defaults on a mortgage secured by the real property the tenant is leasing then the tenant has the right to void the lease without penalty.
Renting used to be, if nothing else, stable housing. Times have changed. Tenants now must be diligent and pro-active when it comes to making sure that their rental is not in foreclosure. At RentalForeclosure.com we have tried to make it easy for tenants to get this information.
RentalForeclosure.com sounds like it should be a good idea but it apparently doesn't work unless someone inputs information which doesn't seem to be happening in the areas I checked in Minnesota. It's really too bad if as a renter I have to keep checking sites such as this, subscribe to a special newspaper for sheriffs sale notices, go to the sheriff's office to check their list or pay for a special web site to receive the information which may not be complete. Susan's idea is a good one, at least for starters.
thanks so much for the reference to my blog. This is an important subject and something that is happening more and more often. Thanks for bringing it to light
Hey, Susan.
Didn't California have a new law that went into effect January 1 to give renters 60 days notice?
Jim, You are right that it was just extended to 60 days notice before they must vacate, but there is no way for the renters to defend against the eviction under current law. I wish there were a way for renters to be able to get notice that the home is in foreclosure so they would 1. have more notice that they should get ready to move, or 2. have an opportunity to buy it before or at the foreclosure sale. Once the new owner has taken title, the renter has zero options unless the new owner wants to keep them as tenants.
Susan - Great post, more information and assistance is always appreciated when dealing with this subject.
I posted a blog on another website regarding this topic. In the blog I referred to the following act.
"Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act", a Federal Law, ensures tenants receive proper notice of rental home foreclosure and protects them from abrupt or improper removal from the home.
Under this Act - Public Law No: 111-22 (S. 896E) (Enacted: May 20,2009) - a new property owner cannot evict a month-to-month tenant for 90 days. When there is a lease in effect the new owner cannot evict until the tenant's lease ends. With one exception, when the new property owner is going to use the rental property as his or her primary residence, in this case the new owner must give the tenant 90 days notice.
Hope this is useful. Cheers. RK in Sunny Phoenix AZ
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