The Chicago Tribune recently featured an article titled "8 Real Estate Trends for 2009". We did a news segment today with ABC15, part of our ongoing "Home Smart" series, outlining how that article's "Trends" related to our own market here in Phoenix.

  It struck me mid-production that the Real Estate insights from a Chicago paper have about as much to do with Phoenix Real Estate as a Chicago weather report has in common with....(hold on, I need to crank up the air conditioning)....with a warm 70 degree Phoenix in January afternoon. I'm guessing the Tribune picked the number "8" because it resembles the snowman in their driveway, or perhaps their knuckles froze solid at the keyboard on their way to a Top Ten List. Regardless, I decided to issue my own trendy list:

 "8 Real Estate Trends for 2009...the Phoenix Metropolitan Edition!"

  8. Income Producing Properties will Overshadow Owner Occupied Purchases

  The Great Price Plunge of 2008 has scarred the psyche of the average Valley home buyer. For the average consumer, awash in a daily sponge bath of negative Real Estate news, buying a house right now is like going on a tandem parachute jump with Helen Keller manning the rip cord. "When will we stop droppppiiinnnggggg?!?"

 Meanwhile, those nasty investor types that GOT RICH selling their wares back in the 2005-2006 Bubble Popping Contest, are clamoring back into the market. Why? Because we have thousands...not tens, not hundreds...yes, THOUSANDS of homes available for purchase today that will "CASH FLOW" immediately. Prices have burrowed into the $20 per foot range in some areas, with more to follow. Seeing as how a large chunk of Valley residents are now "former homeowners", thanks to foreclosure, the pool of future renters has more members than Richard Simmon's hot tub at Spring Break.

 If it makes money, it makes sense. Investors will mark 2009 as the year they struck gold.

  7. Fees Will Create Unease

  Recession 101: When the lump in your throat is bigger than the lump in your wallet, price tags become essential reading material. HOA Fees, Land Lease Fees, and Property Taxes will become deal killers in 2009. A penny shaved is a penny earned. Consumers will finally be asking the oft ignored question, "What DOES the HOA do for me?". Uh oh.

 Valley cities would be wise to begin comparing their own property tax rates to those of their neighboring municipalities. The bad news is that property taxes will likely rise regardless of common sense. Tis the way of government after all! The good news is that you can now list your town as a "dependant".

6. East Valley Will Stabilize. West Side Needs a Defibrillator

 The dirty little secret in Valley Real Estate is that Newton's Law doesn't apply to Real Estate. All things do not fall at equal speed. While certain communities are declining, many pockets of stabilization have already taken place. There are communities in South Scottsdale for instance that stabilized mid-2008, and are now poised for modest value gains.

 Meanwhile back at the paved over ranch...the west Valley continues to dominate the new to market listings, the under $100k club, and the bank owned list of deeds. Were West Valley loan officers issued invisible ink? You mean signatures made in spray paint aren't valid? For every foreclosed home, you have one more opportunity to rent out an investment property. We see 2009 as being the year of the investor in the West Valley.

5. Outlying Communities will Face "Shrinkage"

  "I was in the pool!"...won't be a good enough excuse for the condemned outlying areas to explain their cooling off, and their population growth shrinkage. Buckeye, Maricopa, Queen Creek, Surprise grew with the motto of "If you build it they will come." Well, they will come until gas hits $4 per gallon, construction jobs disappear, and 20,000 homes become available for sale between your town and the job corridor.

  The banks are swinging a wrecking ball at home values in these towns as they struggle to escape their own house of cards. As the banks diminish the property values, the few homeowners left in town are going to take a hard look around and think to themselves, " Why am I paying these banks MY $250k mortgage payment...when the banks are selling the identical house for $90K?". When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide.

4. New Home Builders Go the Way of the Doh!-Doh!

  With costs between $60-$80 per foot to build a basic Xerox-Attack-of-the-Clones type home on a blank stretch of once pristine desert, new home builders simply can't compete with the bank repos. Show me a new home community near Phoenix and I will point out the hundreds of foreclosed homes surrounding it, all priced at less than half the cost to build new homes.

  I suspect new home builders can only survive if they post a profit. Even Bernie Madoff couldn't make the current books look good on paper. The valley is overbuilt. Having more homes than people only works if your last name is McCain. We don't need a wave of job growth. We need a tsunami. The question is not "How many builders will go under?", but rather, "How many will go under without completing the communities they are now building?". Buying a new home right now is like pogo sticking through a minefield. When the sales trailer is hooked to a running vehicle, buyer beware.

3. Proximity, Thy Name Conquers All

  Theoretically, gasoline never should have approached the $4 per gallon heights that it achieved. It was an artificial commodity price increase...but that doesn't really matter. American consumers haven't been this emotionally scarred since "The Crying Game". Not everyone is converting to a horse drawn Prius, but virtually everyone checks the gas gauge before the rear view mirror these days. The fear of a return to $4 gas is here, it is real, it will have a dramatic effect on the 2009 consumer.

Where there are jobs, there will be real estate purchases.

2. New Home Starts...Will Stop

   In a perfect world we could hit a magic button on the new home builder and covert him into a repo-home remodeler. It's a strange paradox that builders are going under faster than Oprah in an undertow, yet we have thousands of repossessed homes that could use a guy with hammerin, nailin, and sawin skills. Did I mention we are overbuilt?

   Many builders will continue to build, holding onto their employees, hoping to wait out the storm. They remind me of Yul Brenner, taking a long drag off a Marlboro through the hole in his trachea, gurgling "I'm gonna beat this"....thulump.

1. Price is King.

Your co-worker tells you he just bought a new home this past weekend. Your first question is:

 a. "Does it have granite countertops?"

b. "Did it come with a landscaping allowance?"

c. "How MUCH did you pay?"

   If you answered "c.", congratulations...you greedy money worshipper! Gordon Gecko would be so proud. As frightened as the masses are of real estate, they are equally as interested. Unlike stocks, bonds, or derivatives, Real Estate is a tangible asset. People ‘see' it everyday as they drive to work, look out their window, stand on a floor. The Valley news story of 2009 will be the crash landing of the Real Estate market. It won't be pretty, there will be casualties, but the descent will be over with! Disembark.

  The drumbeat of recession should place "price" as the favorite focus group for consumers. If they are paying attention to the price of milk, you can bet your food stamps they'll be line iteming the cost of their next home. "Honey, do we really need faceplates on the outlets?". We track the market daily in my office. We are seeing feeding frenzies in certain areas where the prices have finally hit their sweet spot. These are but flickers of light in a sea of darkness, but after twenty years of watching this market go up, down, sideways...those flickers appear to be the end of the tunnel. Or, more like the reflection off the bottom of the well. How the Valley climbs out of the well is a story for a different year. In 2009 we just need to find the bottom.

 
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JAN
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As a builders wife I can tell you he has to post a profit. We are seeing others out there that are pricing just to keep working.

5:42am • #1
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Excellent.  The "local" numbers can be applied to many markets across the country. 

Proximity will, indeed, rule.  Our "outer suburbs" died when gasoline hit $3.25 a gallon or so.  Folks are just not willing to commit to a long commute even to get their dream home in the burbs with the spector of $10 a day or so gasoline costs.

Builders are hurting.  No question that they cannot sell at a loss although I know a couple that are selling their smaller models at a loss just to keep building. 

6:29am • #2

Man, good, and kind of gloomy, post. Price is and will be the main focus for a long time to come.

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Stanley, first, I agree, why is the Tribune writing about your market. Our local paper doesn't even understand our market, I certainly wouldn't want their opinion about another. I'm sorry that you're not seeing any light at the end of the tunnel yet. We're starting to see some changes here.

6:46am • #4
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I can understand a builder leaning out there business model to be able to build in this market.  I will never understand why anyone would builds to sell at a loss in a bottomless real estate market.

6:47am • #5
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Wow!  How did you come up that title?  Catchy, but...

6:47am • #6
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Enema - thy name does conquer all - not a pretty sounding word

6:48am • #7
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The minute the newest energy crisis started, I knew that close-in properties would be good sellers.  Only makes sense to live closer to work these days.

6:53am • #8
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Stanley...

You had me at hello. Great title, it grabbed me!

7:25am • #9
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We should ensure we give wise and unbiased counsel to buyers.  Agents can oftentimes become very subjective and emotional themselves in a real estate transaction, and in times like these, objectivity is key and I hope everyone keeps a level and informed head on their shoulders.

7:40am • #10
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This is a good read, and we need to heed the warnings. The proximity issue is one I have always brought up with clients, why waste time commuting when you can live a short distance from your work?

7:41am • #11
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i would have to say we may expect see pricing complaints in terms of commissions to realtors , these complaints of oversiezed fees by consumers are rising

7:43am • #12
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Laura: This notion that the builders can survive a profitless period made some sense when values were still hanging around "near" the build cost. There was "hope" that a builder could retain their employees and weather the downturn. But in the last half of 2008, here in the Valley of the Sun, prices fell off a cliff like a Coyote with an ACME anvil. I see newer built homes, 2004-2006 range, coming on market for less than $30-$40 per foot daily. Some predict a possible $20 per foot bottom in our outlying areas. I think builders have PLENTY of profitable avenues to travel, but building new homes is no longer one of them. I hope your husband adapts. Good luck.

Connie: The Tribune was writing about Chicago. Which is why I didn't think their article applied to my region. Today Chicago will be confonted with salted roads, wind sheer, freezing temps and perilous blizzard like conditions. BRRRR! We're golfing in shorts and Tommy Bahama shirts in Arizona today! 70+ with blue skies. Connie, you should move here...really, I know a wonderful realtor...

Janice: Enema is metaphoric of what I think the nation's real estate digestive system needs. There is gunk in the pipes. We need to flush the system of the waste accumulated during the Sold Rush of 2005-2006. Luckily the prices have become almost TOO attractive as of late. As a for instance, we picked up a home last week for $33,400, in virtually turnkey condition. That home Sold for $225,000 in 2005...which is a number I give little creedence to. What is INCREDIBLE, to me as an investor, is that this home sold for $97,500 in...1998! We picked it up for one third of its pre-bubble price! I think it's that kind of dramatic CRAZINESS that will revive consumer interest in Real Estate. It will just be a different kind of consumer than we are used to.

7:46am • #13

I agree with about everything here. Very insightful.  Thankyou.  Gives us something to think about.  Cindy

7:51am • #14
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Chris: Wise and Unbiased council is a pleasant ideal. But if we think our advice is wise, aren't we being a little biased?

James: I  agree. As everyone's income is placed under the microscope, OUR fees will likely be questioned. I suggest the book "111 Ways to Justify Your Commission". Good reference material. I keep it at my desk...right next to the tip cup.

7:57am • #15
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Brilliant- this post was the best I have read in a very, very long time.  I love your use of analogies and how cleverly you crafted your message- a compelling read and for certain worthy of the gold star (calling like a beacon to readers)

Fantastic!

7:57am • #16
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Well written and I like the title. This nation can't drink enough detox tea in 09 ...  

7:59am • #17

Great article, well written, funny, and sad but true. Thanks for the post.

8:17am • #18
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Nice work.  We used to be a building contractor.  Not sure what is worse right now, construction or real estate!  ;)

8:42am • #19
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Excellent post!  You are a very clever writer and did a great job of communicating the reality of your market.  Everything is local when it comes to real estate!

9:05am • #20

Stanley, very wel written, entertaining and insightful. And I loved the title.  It is good that changes have begun to make people think about working close to home - sustainability of our planet requires that we think of the embodied energy derived from commuting long distances.

9:07am • #21
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Actually the article is very well done.  Builders in this market are in a critical mode, and may not survive.  The same thing happened in the late 70's and early 80's.  This is much worse than any of that.  Location, price and common sense will rule markets.

9:08am • #22

Great heading - Great artile and I am greatly appreciative that I live and work in the Toronto, Canada market!  A friend of mine from KW in AZ, Jeff Sutherlin, was teaching (a great course based on a great book - "Fierce Conversations" by Susan Scott) up here at the end of August and gave me the rundown on your market.  My prayers are with all of you.  Thanks for this "fierce" article.

9:24am • #23

Great post, Stanley.  Many of these trends are related to other markets.  There was alot of thought that went into this post.  It's nice to know that the light at the end of the tunnel is the way out, not a train coming smack dab into you!

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Joanne: I came from the San Francisco Bay Area where they consider you "blessed" if your commute is less than an hour. I've never understood the wasted "lifetime" that people will donate to a commute...though as Realtor that drives around all day long....hmmm. I find myself torn. I actually enjoy warmer weather, so I encourage greenhouse gas emissions. Drive more, burn more fossil fuels, do it for Chicago! They are freezing! But at the end of the day, the more time we each can spend with family and friends, rather than staring at a bumper, is a better quality of life for all of us.

Jim: Thank you. I feel for the developers. Everyone is being touched by this market collapse, but none moreso than the developers who dangled their life and limb out there and are now facing potential ruin. Timing can kill. The market can flip on a dime. I think you're spot on that location and price will rule. But common sense? I haven't seen that guy around for years.

9:28am • #25
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Always great to see a top 10 list.... Ooops top 8 list in this case.. lots of great points here.

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Excellent take here, Stanley.  And thanks for rubbing in the fact that you have your air on while I was using the snow blower this morning (that's a device to remove snow from your driveway and sidewalks).

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9:49am • #27

You make some great points here, Stanley.  I have relatives who are builders and have definitely seen them get hit hard!  And, though gas prices have gone down in the past 6 months, they are starting to creep up again and that will be another huge factor in deciding where to look when purchasing a home in the near future.  I look forward to future posts from you.

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Stan~

IF we are looking on the bright side of things (and as an eco-friendly sort, I tend to do that) the idea of walkable communities surfaces here...that's where I'd head in this market...and possibly even on foot

10:26am • #29

Thanks, Stanley.  These trends can be seen in many markets across the country.  Many people are struggling, but, on the flip side, others can take advantage of the current situation by investing in income-producing properties or a second home that may not have been feasible in the past.

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Kris: Hey, I know what a snow blower is! I just don't understand why people live someplace that requires one. It is surreal to be sitting on the back patio pool lounge, warm sun on face, cool drink in hand, watching some half frozen figure on TV awkwardly trying to shovel off his six foot deep driveway while wrapped in two parkas, three undershirts and an afghan. I do not get you people.

Jane-Anne: We actually did a bit on the news just last night about a "walk to work" community in downtown Phoenix. Check it out:

http://www.abc15.com/content/realestate/story/Valley-sees-new-real-estate-trends-in-2009/u7jjrkGS8EKtN__IEkqXuQ.cspx

It's a novel idea. One I'd love to embrace...but show me an urban job core that is also child friendly. There just aren't many downtownish places that appeal to the average family unit. Scottsdale has done a good job of surrounding the office islands with condos and shopping centers. But single family housing and five story office towers generally don't get along.

Which is why I am big on personal jet packs.

10:42am • #31
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Great title for your post!  More gloom and doom...how "surprising" huh?  Not!  Take care!

11:14am • #32

Thanks, Stanley.  I guess we do need some enemas to take care of the crap out there.  Being in the Phoenix market, this post directly relates to my area.

11:28am • #33
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I don't know I think I'd choose the enemas... at least you know what you're getting.

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Dear Stanley,

I come to Paradise Valley,AZ every Christmas for a week or two. I love this area. It is hard to believe the prices are so depressed. There are some truly lovely and architecturally significant homes in Scottsdale. I hope things pick up for you! Thanks for the top 8 list. you cracked me up, but every one of them was SO TRUE!!

Betina

1:36pm • #35
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Hi Stanley,  Excellent presentation of the issues facing your market.  As I read them I couldn't see how my market is all that much different !  Food for thought !  Best of 2009 to you !

3:01pm • #36

I have to admit the title made me click but good post.  It's true, there are so many deals out there and people who can afford to buy and hold on until the market stabilizes are most likely going to be happy they did!  Too bad realtors don't have any stated income to buy more of these great deals! =)

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Stanley - Thanks for sharing your well written insights.  You've done a terrific job of localizing your market using unmistakable illustrations that grab the reader by the throat to help them see the reality of your market.  Very cleverly done. 

5:16pm • #38
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Betina - Paradise Valley and Scottsdale have suffered little in comparison with the rest of the Valley. Where we have suffered in PV is volume, but high dollar sales are still the norm. The giveaways are across town. Last Thursday I had a $3M showing in PV, then we hopped in the car and drove fifteen minutes to show a $33K house. That's when you realize how small this valley really is.

Jenn - Accessing the deals is easier than you would think. In December part of our Valley dipped into the STUPID zone, where you just have to be stupid not to buy something there. Our latest little hobby is obtaining rental props in the $30k-$50k range. Renters are happy to pay $750-$950 for them. It's easy math. Where else can you be into a property with $15k cash, finance the rest at around $200 per month, and collect $500-$600 monthly? Who cares if it ever appreciates? It makes money right now. Thus it makes sense.

5:44pm • #39

$20 bucks per square foot? You can't even find a mobile home for that price out here!

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Excellent post.  GREAT title, and some good one-liners.  The premises are pretty spot-on, too. 

8:46pm • #41

Stan,

You are hilarious!  I was looking for a funny post tonight as I needed a laugh!!  Yes, I can relate. Here in the Houston area...  I have a client that just bought a foreclosure in Nov. and leased it out. He was so happy with his purchase, he now has two more contracts down on a foreclosure and a short-sale (the latter may take a while.)

Best wishes for a prosperous 2009!

10:55pm • #42
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Riveting!  When's the next show?

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That was a great read!  Love the mix of humor, sarcasm, and just great info!  The title was what lured me in...obviously :-)

11:54pm • #44
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Nicely put together post Stanley! You're really calling it like you see it.

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... another post that is insightful, and very well written !

Great points ! ... you have a new subscriber :o)

1:56pm • #47
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Thanks very much Stanley, I will be sure to share this with my investors in BC. Good read!

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