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Ok banks, that makes no sense at all!

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Real Estate Agent with eXp Realty LLC 200311024

photo courtesy of I am K.E.BIn this time of banks taking homes back in foreclosure left and right, you would think that some common sense would still prevail. However, here I am telling you the story of another home that will go into foreclosure because of a banks stupidity!

You see I met someone who owned their home that they got in the divorce, the only thing was, that the home had to be put into her name and that she had to make all the payments on the loan. It was looking good for her until about August when her payments adjusted because of an adjustable rate mortgage on the loan.

Now, she called the bank and they said they sorry there was nothing they could do. You see, she heard the same story as so many others have. "You have to be late before we can talk to you and possibly help you." Ok, this person, once again, had great credit, a 720 credit score until she was late on her mortgage payment.

So, she lets it default, just so she can possibly change her adjustable rate mortgage to a fixed rate mortgage that she can afford now that she is paying for this mortgage by herself without the help of a husband.

This is where shock hit her face, as well as mine, as she told me the story. The bank told her that despite her never having a late payment on her mortgage up to this point and paying around $1,500 a month, they couldn't put her in a fix rate mortgage with payments that would be around $1,300 a month because she didn't make enough money.

WHAT? You can't lower her payment because she can't afford it, yet you expect her to continue to pay the higher amount? That is the stupidest logic I think I have ever heard. If they had just locked her in, they would have had payments on a house for the next 27 years. Instead she may have to have the house go to auction and the bank will get only about 50% of what the mortgage is worth because of the condition of the house and the depreciation in the area.

Please, banks, if you have someone that wants to keep their house and has been paying you on time, work with them! Don't be foolish and throw away thousands upon thousands of dollars because of a chart that tells you they can't pay. These families want to keep their homes and a roof over their head or they wouldn't have called you before they were late and tried to work something out with you.

You may see it as you aren't getting as much from month to month, but not getting anything at all makes even less sense than taking a little less per month on the payments.

 

Comments(19)

Vickie Nagy
Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate - Palm Springs, CA
Vickie Jean the Palm Springs Condo Queen

Todd, it's true all over. We have a 2nd home that used to be our primary home. It didn't adjust, but we want to refinance to the new lower rate, but we don't qualify. Whhaaat?

Jan 13, 2009 04:00 AM
Konnie Mac McCarthy
MacNificent Properties, LLC - Cobb Island, MD
Broker/Owner - VA & MD "Time To Get A Move On!"

Todd, I wrote a letter to Sean Hannity this morning and Neal Cavuto about this issue...it is rediculous, that the people who are trying to do the right thing are encouraged to do the wrong thing....  I talk to people all the time, who need to refinance, but can't because they don't qualify or they have negative equity, but the bank already has the money out there on the house, why don't they bet on a winning horse.... people who pay, we are the silent majority...the ones who have this story that is not being told, because all the forecloures are scraming louder.....all I can say is WRITE TO People who can tell the story......  go to fox news, and write the fellas, maybe they will report on it..

Jan 13, 2009 04:01 AM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Well said Todd, I can't figure it out. It doesn't make sense to me. Too bad the bank won't "sell" her HER house at the short sale amount, or their ridiculously low foreclosure amount - and just work with her to let her stay.  It truly doesn't make any sense.  They'll lose money with a new buyer, but not with their customer?  The bottom line for the bank would be better to work with their customer.

Jan 13, 2009 04:05 AM
Leslie Prest
Leslie Prest, Prest Realty, Sales and Rentals in Payson, AZ - Payson, AZ
Owner, Assoc. Broker, Prest Realty, Payson,

The banks are never going to get this mess of homes cleared up until they start acting reasonably.

Jan 13, 2009 04:07 AM
Lauren Krady Lancaster
Keller Williams Realty - Lancaster, PA
PA Realtor

That is dumb.  I prefer to work with smaller local banks for just this reason, sometimes they actually use common sense instead of plugging it into a computer.

Jan 13, 2009 04:13 AM
David Wang
Prudential California Realty - Millbrae, CA
Prudential | 650.504.8190

Todd, if this was not such a serious situation it would be very very funny.  this reminds me of my first bank account when they charged me for not meeting the minimum balance of $500.  wow dinged for being poor.  the case you present is just a larger amount.

Jan 13, 2009 04:17 AM
Fred Chamberlin
Guild Mortgage Co - Oak Harbor WA - Oak Harbor, WA
Oak Harbor/Whidbeynulls, #1 Experienced FHA Mortgage Consultant

Todd - Again, another stupid decision by a bean counter. When are the banks going to learn that they need the help of real people with real knowledge about Real Estate?

Jan 13, 2009 04:20 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

  

Hi Todd

The banks could use professional assistants in managing the short sales and foreclosures like using Realtors. What a concept.

Good luck and success

Lou Ludwig

Jan 13, 2009 04:23 AM
Mesa, Arizona Real Estate Mesa Arizona Realtor
Homes Arizona Real Estate LLC - Mesa, AZ
AzLadyInRed

Hi Todd: You are right. The banks' employees are not all that savvy, nor do banks pay enough to get good help. It absolutely makes no sense. I've heard of this happening time and time again - yet they are willing to let the home go into foreclosure and lose that incoming payment each month. They need to get some better help.

Pepper

Jan 13, 2009 04:31 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Todd... I have run into this very same idiocy.  One of my favourite loan officers finally explained it to me.

The financial vehicle had been SOLD.  Some investor had purchased it, as part of a package... and that package, the parameters of the loan were LOCKED IN and were impossible to change.

As logical as your argument is... the investor is unwilling to allow the parameters to change.... EVEN though they realize that this puts them at risk of having the loan default (I said it was idiocy, didn't I?).

I agree with you... it seems if she was capable of paying $1,500 / month, it would be a no brainer, knowing that she should be able to continue with her perfect record at $1,300 / month.... But what's logic got to do with it?

Jan 13, 2009 04:38 AM
Maria Mastrolonardo, IL Probate Specialist
RE/MAX of Naperville & RE/MAX Enterprises - Naperville, IL
Illinois Probate Realtor

Todd - I'm hearing stories like this all the time and it makes me sick that banks have no common sense what so ever!

Jan 13, 2009 04:54 AM
Fran Gaspari
Patriot Land Transfer, Inc. - Limerick, PA
"The Title Man" - Title Insurance - PA & NJ

TC,

You're applying too much common sense to the equation!!! Thanks,   Fran

Jan 13, 2009 05:03 AM
Tony Grego, 317-663-4173 #1 Trade Association for Alternative Inv
REISA - 317-663-4173 - Indianapolis, IN

In this crazy market nothing makes sense.

thanks

Tony

Jan 13, 2009 05:12 AM
John Walters
Frank Rubi Real Estate - Slidell, LA
Licensed in Louisiana

As usual the good has to pay for the bad.  The ones who are doing the right thing are always the ones who get punished.

Jan 13, 2009 06:08 AM
Leslie Stewart
Oregon Licensed Broker with Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Real Estate Professionals - Stayton, OR
Realtor, ABR, CRS, Oregon Licensed Broker

It is so hard to digest the banks thinking.  It is a loosing situation for all involved including the investor if the buyer defaults. 

Pretty soon we are going to see Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs doing an expose of Package Mortgage investors! 

Jan 13, 2009 02:01 PM
Heather Goodwin
Licensed by the Louisiana Real Estate Commission - Shreveport, LA
Results That Move You

Todd, the saddest part of this is that it doesn't make any sense, yet your friend will probably lose her home.

Jan 14, 2009 01:49 PM
COMPASS PALM SPRINGS | Stewart Penn
COMPASS - Palm Springs, CA
COMPASS Palm Springs - Broker Associate

If only the people who approved the "Financial Bailout" would take note of what's happening they could perhaps force the banks to act with some logic!

Jan 14, 2009 01:56 PM
Anonymous
Anonymous

I completely agree. It feels like bad advice to tell our customers who are already in trouble to let their loan default so they can get some help. Then, typically the modification ends up being more expensive than the original payment. How is that helpful?

Jan 20, 2009 02:28 AM
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