(Author's note: This article was also published on Seeking Alpha on 1/13/08.)

At last week’s Inman News Real Estate Connect NYC 2009 conference, several key suppliers of real estate market information participated in a panel discussion – “Crunching the Numbers To Find the Turnaround” - moderated by Alison Rogers, Licensed Salesperson and Author of Diary of a Real Estate Rookie.  The participants discussed:

  • Key Real Estate Market Indicators
  • Advice for President-Elect Obama
  • Inflation
  • Projections on the Housing Market Recovery

Here are the notes of the key comments provided by each panelist:

Michael Simonsen, CEO, Altos Research Corporation

  • Key Indicators – Focus on non-traditional real estate market statistics beyond price information such as time-on-market, number of current properties with price reduction, and current inventory levels by zip code and price level.  By mapping out a number of key determinants, a more comprehensive view of the real estate market’s real-time conditions is available.  Everyone knows the price headline – “What else can be used to give buyers and sellers the opportunity to make an intelligent decision?” (Altos Research releases a national housing report each month that is available for free.)
  • Advice for President-Elect Obama – Any rescue plans should focus on the acute problems – chronic problems that require longer term and structural changes. Short term programs designed to stave off foreclosure for six months will not solve the systemic economic problems.  The path to jobs is economic growth, which means investments in education, and allowing for innovative people to enter the United States and contribute to future economic development. 

Jonathan Miller, Co-Founder, Miller Samuel Inc.

  • Key Indicators - Look at transaction activity, as the level of sales activity gives you a clue on the direction of the price.  About 18 months ago, there was a contraction in the number of transactions.  While credit stabilization will be a key indicator, it may take another 18 months for the credit market to stabilize.
  • Advice for President-Elect Obama – The last seven years have been a mortgage boom more than a housing boom.  The housing sector is what manifested the mortgage boom. The new administration should focus on smart regulation – comprehensive regulatory structure.  There has been an increase in regulation every year for the past five to seven years, but they clearly have not been effective.  Get agencies in sync to create a stable and safe playing field.  Missing piece right now is the trust.
  • The Recovery – A more stabilized credit environment is necessary first. Every month that passes in getting things settled, inventory rises and consumer confidence falls.  If one assumes improvement in second half of 2009, then the recovery will begin in another year or two with a full recovery in “several years.”

Leslie Appleton-Young, Vice President & Chief Economist, California Association of REALTORS

  • Key Indicators: Look at the number of foreclosures in the next 30-, 60- and 90-day periods.  Remember that many markets are bipolar - Distressed/REO/foreclosures versus rest of the market. (Here’s a good example from Los Angeles, CA – comparing price trends by price level. Strength at the top of the market and price weakness elsewhere.)
  • Inflation - There’s a tremendous amount of liquidity in the market right now and it’s only going to get bigger with the stimulus package. Down the line, we’ll see a return to a very significant level of inflation compared to what we saw. On the upside, high inflation has historical spurred the housing market.
  • The Recovery – In terms of transactions, California was at the bottom in 2007, as transactions increased 12% in 2008. While year-on-year prices are down 40%, it’s clear that much of the action is in the distressed part of the market.  Markets work, markets clear.  With the current economic environment, there’s now more risk in the high end than there was a year ago.

Terry Loebs, Managing Director, MacroMarkets LLC

  • Inflation – “The forecast calls for pain” because of the pending stimulus package.  While perhaps necessary in the short-run, the plan will come at a cost.
  • Advice for President-Elect Obama – Develop better transparency in home pricing because huge inefficiencies exist in pricing market assets.

Pete Goldey, Chief Information Officer, Onboard Informatics

  • Key Indicators – Stay local because real estate is local – it is difficult to look nationally to see one indicator, therefore local real estate market data should be a primary source. In California, transactions are largely distressed properties.  What happens when those clear?  Once distressed properties leave the marketplace, there is a better chance to see what is really going on in the traditional market.
  • Advice for President-Elect Obama – Mortgage rescue programs are bad.  While it is important for people to stay in their homes, those not requiring assistance will ask – “but what about me?”

 

 

15 Comments on “Crunching the Numbers To Find the Turnaround” - from Friday at Inman NYC

JAN
13
2009
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Thank you so much for this blog.  It's really interesting.  I tho't we just had to look into a crystal ball and wait for Obama to get in to office and we'd have all our troubles disappear!  Just kidding.  It's such a complex issue and, your concepts are right on!  Watching the foreclosures, job market and, what path the next regime takes will be the tell all indicators.  Thanks again for the great blog.  One thing we do know is that somehow, sometime, this too shall pass.  Robin

5:05pm • #1
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Sorry I missed you, Scott. I am enjoying my Altos reports still have a few things to tweak. But, love them being updated so regularily.

5:41pm • #2
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Hi Robin - Thanks for your note.  If you're looking for some "heavier" analysis about the Housing/Real Estate market, I'd recommend checking out:

http://seekingalpha.com/tag/housing

 

 

 

5:50pm • #3
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Scott - nice report.  I am glad to hear some people understand that the big bail out and coming stimulus plan will have a long term effect on inflation - we are surely headed there.

6:45pm • #4
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Was at the conference and there was so much great info to soak up : )  .  This is a great post, fantastic summary !

7:41pm • #6
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I think the best advice for PEBO would be just stop...  Government spending DIDN'T help during the depression, and may have actually pushed us from a recession to depression in the earley 1930s... and that was even more true moving forward. 

The way to bring the economy back would be to encourage growth by lower taxes... especially cap-gains.  Raising taxes on "the rich" is counter productive, as "the poor" aren't doing a lot of hiring.  To really shake things up, FairTax would do it...  It would spur an influx of corporate money seeking a tax haven...  That means high paying jobs.

8:22pm • #7
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None of us know when the turn around will come.  Let's do a pool

8:27pm • #8
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Thanks for sharing this great report. My advise for President Elect Obama is to breath and practice yoga everyday...!

9:05pm • #9
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Interesting viewpoints. My thoughts are most in line with Mike Simonsen and Pete Goldey. If we're going to find a safe path through this challenging real estate market, agents need to be well educated on the issues, and panels like this are a great resource.

10:37pm • #10
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Thanks for the great summary and the links to Altos and Seekingalpha.

10:42pm • #11
JAN
14
2009
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This was a great blog, something that I will bookmark and come back to later today to review some points.  Great overview of all these experts thoughts!

8:28am • #12

Wow.  Lots of excellent information here.  Thank you for posting this.

12:06pm • #13
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Thanks alot for the extra effort with the info! The bottom line will be getting consumer confidence to kick in.  It will be interesting to see how the market reacts over the next month or so.....merely from the inauguration.

11:37pm • #14
JAN
15
2009
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The presidential election cycle always seems to promote un-ease, no matter who is running or who wins, merely because of the uncertainty factor.  I believe that once we have the inauguration and "sound footing" of a month or so of policies (why wait 100 days), we will start a rapid recovery - due to confidence (semi-independent of economics).  With the emotional confidence, we will then see an economic rebound (even if not immediately visible).

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