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Having not been in this business very long, I was at odds with feedback right out of the gate. I was trained to ask for feedback as a listing agent (“going above and beyond!”), but never quite understood the value when I was asked for feedback as a buyer’s agent, because I heard what was coming out of my mouth when asked for it: “No, my client isn’t interested… Why?... Because of a, b and c... No, they wouldn’t be interested if you corrected a, b and c... Because you asked… And the price is too high. Good luck.”

I think the analogy that works best for me with feedback is that of what old college football coaches used to think of passing the ball - three things can happen and two of them are bad – except in the case of soliciting feedback, all four of them are bad: 1) you get lied to so the buyer’s agent can get off the phone and you’re left with misleading opinions 2) you continue to get lame feedback which the seller interprets as you not asking the right questions to get “valuable information” 3) you get honest feedback which you know will tick off the seller, making you look bad, 4) the buyer’s agent will grill you on motivation, desperation and price flexibility.

Plus, when I’m a buyer’s agent and I am asked to provide feedback, I doubt that I will say anything to any listing agent that will show my buyer’s hand if we’re planning to make an offer. The fact is that 99% of all feedback probably wastes more time than helps the cause, which means you need to prep your clients for that. But what that also means is that you need to build a better mousetrap.

As a buyer’s agent, I do provide honest feedback when it’s asked for, usually over the phone. It took a while to realize that this is business and I’m talking to a Realtor, not a seller, but even so, I still provide honest material, especially when I get the chance on email forms. Email feedback questions are generally lame so you have no choice but to provide lame answers. Exception: If I remember that a house has a particular issue, and there is a “short answer” comment box in the email form, I will point out the issue. Example: the house is generally in good shape but there is mildew staining on the backsplash behind the kitchen sink, I’ll let them know to clean that up.

It’s too bad that so many agents misuse email feedback forms, because if the questions are posed correctly, you’d get considerably more honest feedback than if you made phone calls. The majority of the Realtors I’ve dealt with are too scared to tell you what their buyers really think (unless they’re planning to make an offer): “Love the house, but we just started looking,”… “It’s in our top 3,”…. “Don’t like the paint colors” (comments similar to this last one are the lamest, to which I’ll answer, “Did you really just say that?”)

However, if you get caught on the phone (“caught” is the proper term) being asked for feedback a day or two after showing a property, and you remember the house in question, don’t blow it off by saying that you have to “refer to my notes and I’m driving right now.” You’ll remember the house. You made the appointment. Don’t be shy. If you’re 100% certain that your buyers won’t be pursuing a house, which is pretty easy to tell for any buyer’s agent, then tell the other agent what they don’t want to hear. I think it’s wrong to sabotage other listings with lame feedback; what’s the motivation? Are you really going to get that listing when it bombs out with another agent? Doubtful… in the end, you want houses to sell, especially in your neighborhood. Supply down, demand up. Duh. Don’t worry about hurting the listing agent’s feelings, either. Maybe they missed something or they need some sort of obvious sign that the stager they’ve been using is hurting, not helping.

Recap:

  1. Always act in the best interest of your client.
  2. Promise your listings that you’ll always request feedback over the phone and email. There are loss leaders all over business and in our case, feedback is a time loss-leader, but you have to do it unless your client doesn’t care. Then prepare them for how lame the feedback will be. Then, be a hero and explain how you’re going to attempt to improve the feedback process. (See #4).
  3. Do what’s right if you get caught on the phone (again, “caught” is the right usage here). Better to be respected than liked in business.
  4. When you list, take advantage of the email questionnaire (that woman from Idaho had good ideas). Find out if there is significantly bad curb appeal that you’re missing or if there was a logistical issue with seeing the house. Don’t ask about price, condition, interest because the answers are too high, ok, and none. The wonderful veil of the Internet is enough to elicit responses you normally wouldn’t get over the phone.
  5. If your feedback will help a listing get sold (albeit not to your clients), why would you not give it? Seriously. Be part of the solution.
 
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35 Comments on Feedback BS: Don't ask for feedback you don't want!

JAN
13
2009
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Karl -

I think an agent can offer feedback politely without compromising your agency relationship with the buyer.  It is a professional courtesy to do so, in my opinion.

If you are listing a property, recorded feedback gives the seller a good feeling of how showing agents are reacting, and this becomes quite important when a price reduction is necessary, as it often is these days.

Call if you'd like to talk about this.

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10:31pm • #1

To be honest some Realtors don't have a clue when it comes to feed back. I had a house that was going to forclosure status. The guy was desperate and asked me to list it. It was trashed by a former tenant. It stank to high heaven it as a real piece. Every Realtor that showed it was prewarned of the condition. I posted a video of it at 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBfyo5DHjEk

anyway an agent gave me this feedback.

this home is toxic! You mentioned it needed to be cleaned, but that was months ago. The fumes and odor that came from this home when we opened the door, made us all immediately sick. I would highly suggest taking this property off the market before someone that is allergic to such toxins gets violently ill. Priscilla

How did this feedback help in any way. I told her before she took her clients that there was rotten meat in the fridge 3months old no electricity I said don't go !  from what she said her client wanted it sure wasn't my listing but that seemed to make her want to go even more....lol

11:12pm • #2
JAN
14
2009

Sweet crib. Funny how houses going back to the bank take on the same look. And they all have vaccuum cleaners!! Awesome.

9:42am • #3
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I suppose there is a difference between feedback (constructive comment) vs opinion (agent's 2 cents).  It is sort of a greyline, but if it is not going to help the seller or the buyer or yourself result a sale, somethings needs to be curbed, or said nicely. I agreed that there are a lot of agents do not have the respect for fellow agents and do not know how to deliver information in an appropriate manner.

2:34pm • #4
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Karl - I have always tried to give decent feedback and to mention anything the agent needed to know (a leaking water faucet in a rental that was flooding the back yard - thought they might like to know), but recently after reading the article "Showing Feeback Is Dumb" at AgentGenius, I've begun to question the usefulness, honesty, and potential pitfalls of feedback.

2:41pm • #5

I believe providing feedback is banking good karma.....seriously if you give you get!   And those agents that always WHINE "I showed 40 properties that day" really make me groan!  You showed it, you scheduled it, now help me out!  We all have a job to do and in this market let's be kind to each other and try to help out!  I always give good memory jogging details to help you remember the home, please try to be kind enough to give me something other than the "I am too busy to remember how I do my job"!  

I agree the best feedback is a contract, but I also love the systems that email the showing agents and any replies are sent directly to the seller - this takes part of the monkey off the agent if they are asking for a price reduction or aren't getting any responses! 

 

2:47pm • #6

We send out an e-mail for feedback and it sure would be nice if more agents would use it. It's always a surprise when agents act completely put out when you ask for feedback.The other fun situation is when you list a home and point out a problem and the owners get really touchy about it and let you know they think it's not a problem, but then you get hammered on it every showing.You know if you keep bringing it upthe owners are going to get mad at you. No win situation.Also, years ago I used to do termite inspections and it was amazing how many homes looked like that with people living there AND they knew I was coming.

2:51pm • #7

I definately agree that some people aren't good at delivering helpful feedback but I think the opposite can also be said.  A person is only going to be an honest with you as you let them.  If as the seller's agent you ask for feedback don't get defensive when you get it.  I've gotten calls from listing agents asking for the buyer's thoughts and I really felt "caught" because it was clear the only thing they really wanted to hear was "they'll take it!". 

2:52pm • #8
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I ask for feedback good or bad.

If it's bad I want to hear it. I'm spending money to market the property and I want to know if it is worth the money I'm spending. Once I got feedback that the dog crapped all over the middle of the front room. Now who wouldn't notice that before they left taking the dog with them. This is a waste of my money and time.

If it's good the Seller is holding up his end of the deal keeping the home presentable for showing.

When listing a home I don't think my opinion is the only one that counts. I want to hear it all.

3:01pm • #9
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Karl,

Like you I have not been in the business all that long. And, like you, I was taught to always ask for feedback. My experiences have been similar to yours. The most frustrating thing that I have found is agents who get irritated with me for asking. I want to respond to them with a comment like "Sorry for bothering you by asking you to do your job!" So far I  have refrained.....

3:06pm • #10
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Hi Karl - I always appreciate feedback another agent can give; and I always ask for it.  Negative feedback isn't a problem for me and I want to hear why buyers did or did not like a property.  Information from other agent's is important and I always share with my client; they need to know also.

3:06pm • #11
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Karl,

If a listing agent is surprised by any feedback they get, they probably aren't doing their job correctly. That being said, sellers like feedback from anybody besides their agent.

Rich

3:13pm • #12

Rich,

Funny, I just read that somewhere about where sellers like to get feedback.

 

Suzanne,

For many of the Realtors who show property, their primary skill set is writing three letters in a row (or four numbers), driving, working a lockbox, working a door knob and then repeating that sequence in reverse order.

4:33pm • #13

I always give feed back when asked.  I'm amazed though at what listing agents are now asking.  It used to be they wanted to know the buyer's impressions and thoughts on the property, but now it seems they just want to know if you're bringing them an offer.  I agree the automatic forms are lame and border on being useless, that's why I prefer to give verbal feedback, directly if possible.  I do a weekly report sheet of comment summaries, that I email to the sellers .  I don't sugar coat the comments but I warn the sellers in advance that's how I do it and so far I've had no problems.  In fact, most of them want the honest comments.  Asking for opinion about price is pretty useless in most markets.  If I've heard it once, I've heard this a thousand times, "It seemed to be priced OK".  I do put that on the feedback reports but I tell my sellers it really doesn't mean much, especially if we get lots of showings but no offers.  An agent telling me it seems high has ten times more credibility than it seems priced OK. 

4:35pm • #14
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I'd rather just keep it at...if you get an offer then there's the feedback..if not I'd rather not have some say anything. I used to ask agents for feedback on my listings and most of them didn'teven remember which property was which. Sellers generally want feedback just to hear the insults...don't understand why they say it's not personal yet they get insulted.

4:48pm • #15

Karl, I can relate to your hesitations about feedback, and have begun to doubt it's usefulness.  When asking for feedback from a showing agent, I want to say "Tell me that the orange walls need painted!" I don't want to hear that it was okay, the buyer is just looking, whatever.  Honest feedback will help everyone: sellers will fix the problem or lower the price, houses will sell, and demand will go up as inventory shrinks.

As a listing agent, I do preview a lot of property, and generally try to provide feedback on it.  I am usually brutally honest, thinking that is the kind of feedback I would want. 

If it's not going to be useful feedback, just don't leave it all.  It is hard showing sellers "buyers liked it but are still looking" over and over. 

4:50pm • #16
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Being an agent who does lots of listing, I know first hand how helpful feedback can be; especially when it comes to getting price reductions. Hearing the truth from other Realtors can be a big help to back up what the listing agent's been saying all along.

SIDEBAR TO RICH BOWMAN: Did you actually list a home while the inside looked like that?

5:06pm • #17

i'm a newer agent also, but i've had the same experience with feedback.  thanks for sharing

5:38pm • #18
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This is great!  I have a seller that wants and INSISTS on feedback.  Each time I get feedback, I pass it along to him and then he begins to give me a 20 minute lecture to pass along to the Buyer's agent. "They fail to see the value" "Tell them to tell their buyers this", Tell the agent blah blah blah".  I finally "grew a pair" this week and told him I was wasting my time getting feedback for him...I wasn't going to take a tongue lashing passing along the feedback and that IF he didn't want to hear the good AND bad, I'd gladly stop chasing down agents to get it for him.  What a huge pain in the butt feedback is.  Necessary evil, until we can train our sellers otherwise.  I like the Idaho comment as well, from Agent Genius.  I"m borrowing her idea:)

5:55pm • #19
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The feedback issue is a tough one, and sometimes the questions from the LA, especially on the written forms area a problem. I love when they want the BA to say what they think of the price. Yep, sure, right on target - won't my buyers like me saying that? And if I don't know that they are comfortbale with me sharing their feedback I can't.

Having said that, as an LA I like to have feedback if folks are willing to share, and it might be helpful. If it isn't, I would prefer to not have it. I always try to respond to requests when I get them, if I can, and hope others will do the same.

Jeff

6:01pm • #20
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Many buyers do not want any feedback about what they think given to a seller. And other times we have simply shown sooo many properties it is tough to remember them all-- if we make an offer then the buyers liked it!

7:38pm • #21

Karl, we use a company called Showing Solutions that solicits e-mail feedback from agents.  This tends to get us much more genuine feedback which is way more useful and constructive.

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9:00pm • #22

I've always thought feedback was rather innocuous.  Never put too much faith in what I hear.

9:06pm • #23

I think feedback is a valuable tool.  I just put together an email feedback form using google picasa and polldaddy and think it's better than some of the sites that charge for the same thing.  The showing agent gets a slideshow and info to remind them about the home and the questions are short and simple.  If you'd like to see one, it's at http://www.polldaddy.com/s/454B116CEC8EEA7F/ but please don't submit feedback for the listing.

I'm more interested in the agents opinion than the buyer's opinion.  Sometimes seller's are reluctant to accept the listing agent's advice, but when they see 10 feedback responses telling them to lower the price and clean the house...it has an impact!

My pet peeves when being asked for feedback:

  1. They email a request and don't provide info or link to remind me about the home.
  2. They call while I'm driving and can't understand why I can't remember their listing from a week ago after I've shown 40 other homes
  3. And #1 no no...if you're asking for feedback...don't argue and tell me why I'm wrong when I give you my opinion!!! OMG RUKM

9:08pm • #24
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Karl: I truly believe that if a Listing Agent is asking for feedback on behalf of the seller, the Buyers Agent should give honest feedback. Actually I plan to do a post on feedback reports. Was a thought before I seen your post.

11:08pm • #25
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What's even more important than feedback is being able to proactively tell the seller what the likely feedback will be, given the current price, condition and demand, and telling them that there really isn't much new under the sun, and that adjusting the price and condition to stimulate demand will offset any feedback you will get if you do nothing.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what kind of feedback a property is most likely going to encounter if an agent knows his/her market inside/out with buyer's expectations regarding condition, price, location -- as well as  keen understanding of current demand.

As the old saying goes: measure twice and cut once. 

11:09pm • #26
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Love the pictures on the feedback!!  I always warn my sellers about wacky feedback.  Being in the business awhile, I know a massive amount of agents and can, sometimes, tell if an agent is starting a negotiating game by making nasty comments in detail...  Just had one today and they ripped the house apart.  I called the agent and they said it was in their top 3.  It may not go anywhere, but some agents do play that game.  It does not bug me or my clients as we are prepped for them.

11:27pm • #27
JAN
15
2009
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Living and working in a rather small community, I know or have worked with most of the agents here.  Most are happy to give and receive feedback, and generally its constructive feedback.  There are some who can never remember my listing after showing it, or who automatically say "lower the price!"  There are agents here who are not interested in my feedback on their listings as well.  I don't understand these folks...I know I can use all the expertise that so many of my fellow professionals give. 

5:06am • #28
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Karl,

As another Realtor in this Denver market, I do believe feedback can be valuable in this market.   Some sellers still think their home is just perfect, no matter how much you, as the professional, tells them they are either overpriced or the home needs something to help the property stand out for buyers.     I think they THINK we need a quick sale, and tell them things that MAY not help them, and when the constant comment comes from agents viewing their home, it solidifies this point.    I usuallly get feedback via email now, and forward the email to the sellers if needed.    I appreciate all feedback I get - even if it is -- my buyer was not interested in your listing.....

Joan Cox

Metro Brokers - Turning Point RE

Centennial, CO  80111

720-231-6373

www.JoanCox.com

8:07am • #29
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Hi Karl,  SO much of the feedback is so lame !  I do not answer an email request for feedback.  Instead, I pick up the phone and give them both positive and negative feedback as I best see it.

8:53am • #30
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    I do not mind a feedback request except when I am STILL with my clients the same day, or I am sent one of those feedback forms that requires you to grade a bunch of questions. Those forms are ignored....

10:17am • #31

Feedback is key.... it is a tool that many agents have put on the back burner....I take the time to make the calls, because the agents and owners can put the information to good use,,,,With the new year here by the 29th of the month 2 closings and 2 new listings by Feb. 12th why.......because I use all the tools.....bottom line great agents will make the call and get respect with other agents....

10:31am • #32

If you show respect, you'll get respect. And I think showing respect when you're giving feedback is being honest with the listing agent. And showing respect when you're receiving feedback is that if you've bothered to ask, then you need to listen to the answer.

 

3:46pm • #33
JAN
21
2009
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Honest feedback is going to give the Realtor the advantage to get the home sold.

2:35am • #34
APR
29
2009

I've had feedback asked from listing agents and they were so polite and honest about it that no doubt they got it from me. I am as honest as honest can be and deliver the good, the bad and the ugly, with diplomacy of course, and the agents appreciate it. Now, one of my sellers insists on feedback and I will never forget the way that some agents had asked me to give feedback with a positive attitude so I in turn reciprocate. I want honesty, tell me what your prospective buyer's really thought about the property and while the agent is giving me feedback I ask for their 'professional' feedback as well. That way, the seller's that insist on feedback (for some obvious reason may I say?) can finally realize that their property is...well, you get my point.

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