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America's #1 Mortgage Rates Report: January 14, 2009

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Commercial Real Estate Agent with Matthews Capital Markets NMLS 2415712

atlasThe US Treasury Department has been supporting the mortgage bonds market, in order to keep mortgage rates under 5%.  I cited two reasons why sub-5% rates might not happen:

1- Capacity: Lenders don’t have the horses to ride since they laid off so many workers in 2008.

2- Greed:  Lenders typically made a loan at a rate and sold it for about a half a point profit.  The improvement in mortgage bonds allowed lenders to fatten up their margins and make as much as 3% of the loan when they sold it.

I think the real reason was more in line with my first guess; capacity.  What I didn’t realize was that the mortgage lenders were out of money.  Well, sort of.  To understand this concept you have to understand the “flow” of mortgage loans.  The big banks, like B of A, Citi, and Wells, loan direct or buy loans from other lenders and brokers.  We “commit” those loans to them and they sell the loans off to Wall Street.  If my company loans you $300,000, we’ll sell it to a bigger bank for $303,000, and they sell it to Wall Street for $306,000…except…

They don’t really get paid but once a quarter.  Loans made back in October have been COMMITTED to Wall Street, by those big lenders, but the transaction (sale of the loan) only happens every three months.  While they wait for that transaction day, their funding line gets filled up.  Imagine a funding line (sometimes called a warehouse line of credit) like a big credit card,  Normally, a big bank needs, say $100 Billion for its line.  The unexpected refinance volume filled up that line quickly.

Those big lenders were “at their credit limit”…until today.

Today was this past quarter’s settlement day, which means, the big lenders sold off all of the loans to Wall Street and paid off their “super-sized credit card”. From Mortgage News Daily:

Tomorrow brings us the final day of Class A settlement, in which sellers of MBS deliver the loans in pools to satisfy the executed sale trades made over the last 3 months.  When this occurs, sellers will finally receive payment for the most action-packed month of originations in recent memory.  Up until now, the cost to originate these loans has been borne by MBS sellers, aka originators.  We have surmised that one of the several components that is causing a much-larger-than-welcome margin of MBS prices to lenders’ rate sheets is the funding constraint created by the gradual exhaustion of money to satisfy a rapidly increasing originationd demand.  As this money has dried up, it stands to reason that lenders must artificially raise rates to deter incoming business in order to avoid exceeding their funding sources.

Lenders have lots of cash to lend again. NOW is when we should see the lenders start pricing in line with the mortgage bonds market.  Mortgage rates should drop to 4.5% …IF the mortgage-backed securities market remains strong.

This is what the Treasury Department was waiting for.  Expect the Government to support mortgage bonds, so that lenders can lend out all this cheap money they have and still make a healthy profit.  It might take a radiofew days and I don’t expect mortgage rates to stay this low for too long.


Listen to how this phenomenon might get you a mortgage rate as low as 4.5% on Radio Mortgage.

 

At the risk of sounding alarmist, you should be getting your ducks lined up and talking to a mortgage adviser….NOW…not later.  I’m not selling you, I’m TELLING you to…

 

take action now.

 

 

Comments (28)

Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Brian...  some excellent information. And yes, rates should come down. But just as MBS's have been bought in most recent weeks and rates only coming down slightly, not as much as they did before... doesn't mean that they will come down more... even if they do have the money to lend now. Just so many unknowns out there and Wall Street can still control some of the fears and such. Just to many things tugging at rates right now, from all sides of the fence... and don't forget, that there were big loses last year and the year before...  investors can hedge a little, not lowering the rates to where they should be. We have also seen that in the last week, when the 4.5% coupon was paying money back.  Sure, we all can hope... but if people were going to buy now, they should just buy and not worry about the rates dipping even another 1/2%... just my .02.

jeff belonger

Jan 14, 2009 12:58 AM
Emily Lowe
RE/MAX Homes and Estates, Lipman Group - Nashville, TN
Nashville TN Realtor

Thank you for the information!  I feel like I learned something - I honestly don't know how everyone keeps up with all of this!  It's crazy!

Jan 14, 2009 01:06 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Brian - very useful explanation. I always learn something new from your writing. Now to get those buyers moving who are seemingly waiting for that magical number.

Jeff

Jan 14, 2009 01:59 AM
Jeff Johnson
On the Move - Louisville, KY
Proud To Be Your Realtor

Great information Brian.  I agree with the other comments about rounding the corner. 

Jan 14, 2009 02:39 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

Thanks for such an informative post.  Very insightful, and forward looking.  Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Jan 14, 2009 02:42 AM
Mike Frazier
Carousel Realty of Dyer County - Dyersburg, TN
Northwest Tennessee Realtor

Brian,

Are you saying you believe the bottom will be 4.5% and that will not last for long before they go up?

 

 

Jan 14, 2009 03:13 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Brian,

You convinced me!

But, I'm unsure who you are writing to. I think the public is more likely to simply accept the proliferation of hate and believe the problem is greed. They have certainly had enough examples, none of which they can sight, but you know, that guy, that, well you know! The public and most mortgage people have never understood how it works and until recently that was ok, it's not anymore and learning is going to be expensive!

Let us pray your message gets through! "At the risk of sounding alarmist, you should be getting your ducks lined up and talking to a mortgage adviser....NOW...not later. I'm not selling you, I'm TELLING you to..." 

History, alone would say were going to have about 6 months of low rates to be followed by 4 years of astronomically high cost. Jimmy Carter left us at 21.5%!

Bill

Jan 14, 2009 03:53 AM
Steve Graham
Inactive - Atlanta, GA

Well, that certainly clarifies, and gives insight to, the workings of the mortgage market. Perhaps, the 4.5% loans are on the way...

Jan 14, 2009 05:32 AM
Scott Guay
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services PenFed Realty - Ocean Pines, MD
Associate Broker. Ocean City and Ocean Pines MD

That's all great news.  I have a client that just got 4.9%% no points.

Jan 14, 2009 06:16 AM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Thanks for explaining things to me, Brian. Now I will reblog this baby after you off the feature board. Not that you care but I would rather folks read it hear. I know the lenders in my area, are saying they are very busy, and I'm sure even more so since so many got other jobs.

Jan 14, 2009 06:38 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

ducks or not, which I do agree that we should be getting our clients ducks in a row...but great example today...  stocks down, losing .... 10 yr yield dropped in favor... MBS's flat... and we only picked up a 1/4 pt in points.... if that. Many investors or lenders were the same from yesterday. I feel that we will see some hedge, waiting for 1 investor to take the plunge and then others to follow. Brian...What would you think about that one?  You had lots of experience on Wall Street.

jeff belonger

Jan 14, 2009 06:56 AM
Tom Burris
NMLS# 335055 - Baton Rouge, LA
Texas/Louisiana Mortgage Pro - 13 YRS Experience

My pipeline is full of people waiting.....

Frustrating.

I know I will lose a few to some big fat liars!!!

 

Jan 14, 2009 07:21 AM
Stephen Kappre
KW Hometown - Mantua, NJ
Helping You Home

Great quotes - I love the 'I'm not selling you, I'm telling you" - I'm gonna write that down.

Tom - There are some crooks still around

Jan 14, 2009 10:29 AM
Susie Blackmon
Ocala, FL
Ocala, Horses, Western Wear, Horse Farms, Marketing

Hi Brian, very interesting. I'm always smarter after I read your posts. Thanks very much. There's so much crap going on right now that it is hard to know what to do or what is going to help... at least in the short term.

 

Jan 14, 2009 11:21 AM
Charles Stallions
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pensacola, FL
850-476-4494 - Pensacola, Pace or Gulf Breeze, Fl.

Hi Brian, once again you have hit the mark with a great post. Do you really think this will move the real estate market. Because I just don't think so, I think the numbers point a lot further than that, it is not the money it is the stability in the markets around the world.

Jan 14, 2009 12:28 PM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Brian, thanks for the explanation of the process. I kept hearing that banks didn't have a lot of money to lend and that's why they were being picky about who they gave loans to. Many people think the banks just kept the money from the bailout and used it to buy other banks...or is that another story?

Jan 14, 2009 02:32 PM
Chris Olsen
Olsen Ziegler Realty - Cleveland, OH
Broker Owner Cleveland Ohio Real Estate

The more I think I understand the mortgage industry, the less I feel I know at times.  Sigh...it's mostly a mystery to me, no matter how much I try to keep up.

Jan 14, 2009 03:22 PM
Brian Brady
Matthews Capital Markets - Tampa, FL
858-699-4590

Thanks for all the nice comments.  I'm floored that there were over 160 Radio Mortgage downloads in the past 24 hours.  I think the most important question, in these comments, was:

Are you saying you believe the bottom will be 4.5% and that will not last for long before they go up?

ANSWER:  Sure...within an eighth or so.  When I talk about rates, I'm talking PAR rates (without yield spread premium).  I chargr a 1% origination and $499 processing fee with those par rates.

Jeff Belonger's correct when he says that nothing happened today; I think a lender will break the mold, lower rates and the rest will follow.  Banks are like OPEC.  They all keep margins fat until someone acts like Hugo Chavez and gets greedy.  Then, everyone else follows suit.  Mortgage banking is such a monkey-see, monkey-do business; bankers have no real imagination.

I think the Treasury will support the 4.5% rate for another 3-4 weeks (then run out of money).  Meanwhile, I think the margins will be reduced by that Chavez-like maverick banker, bringing rates down to the 4.5-ish level for a vrief period.  The prepared will be rewarded.

Does this mean you should wait to buy a home?  Lord, no but you might be prepared if you intend to refinance your mortgage.

Jan 14, 2009 03:38 PM
Roland Woodworth
Blue Cord Realty - Clarksville, TN
Blue Cord Realty

Brian: This is very interesting information. Thank you for taking the time to share with everyone

Jan 14, 2009 03:47 PM
Michael E. Walsh
Abe Lee Realty, LLC - Honolulu, HI
(RA) AHWD

Interesting mortgage information thanks.

Jan 14, 2009 06:28 PM