Here's a tip for those of you doing short sales or thinking about it. I've been doing them for over a year now and they do require a lot of work. 

Before you spend a ton of time marketing and showing a short sale you need to find out how much the bank will sell for. So how do you do this?

The only way to know how much a bank will sell a property for is to get the first offer to them,  If the offer is too low, they will let you know.  They will tell you that they won't sell for less than X dollars.

If X dollars happens to be way over market value, then you know you're wasting your time with this particular sale and you can stop trying to make it work.  It won't.  The first offer is crucial.

OK, so I still haven't provided a way around this.  Here's what you do.  Build your investor contacts.  Get out there and find some serious investors who are willing to make offers on deals.  And what investor is not looking for a deal?

If you have an investor who is willing to buy a property at, say, 60 cents on the dollar and he is willing to back that up, then his can be the first offer you present.  In the best case scenario the bank will accept the offer and you can put the deal in escrow and get it closed.  In the worst case scenario the bank says NO but they tell you how much they are willing to accept.  Bingo!  Now you can advertise the listing as an approved short sale and it will be that much easier to get the next offer in since everyone knows that the bank has approved the price.

Doing this can save you a lot of time and frustration.  For whatever reason, I was not able to get an investor offer on a short sale I have listed right now.  But I did my market analysis and priced it right there where I felt it should be.  At true market value.  It's a lovely unit, almost new and we got a good offer on it at 95% of asking price. LP was $170K, offer came in at $160K

The package was prepared and submitted for approval.  The bank came back and said they would not accept less than $255,000 (original sales price was in the 300's).  Six weeks had passed since the submission of the package so I pulled the new numbers for the building.  Lo and behold, no new sales but there were 2 new REO listings of the same unit at $140K and $150K.  I sent all this data to the bank and tried to reason with them.  They did not budge.  $255K was their # and they were not changing it.  Now tell me, if you were a buyer and you had 3 identical units to choose from, 1 at $140K, 1 at $150K and my short sale at $255K, which one would you buy?  Precisely.

The bank didn't care.  Had I been able to get my investor's offer in I would have already known that there was no way to negotiate this particular deal.  It was like beating a dead horse.  I would have stopped my efforts right then and there.  Instead, I wasted valuable time just to find out that this particular bank was inflexible and their numbers were not reasonable. 

So get out there and start looking for investors if you don't have enough in your database.  You help them.  They help you.  It's a win-win for all.

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11 Comments on Starting A Short Sale Right

JAN
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Thanks for the useful info Maggie. We are working our first short-sale and all of the tips we learn here on AR have been great.

8:24am • #1
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Hi Maggie;

Great post and very informative, I thank you for sharing such great information. Thank You!

8:27am • #2
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Maggie-

You can still sell that listing. it will just take longer. You need to get some rapport with the negotiator and do some work, but it can be done. The lender probably got some brain-dead dolt to do a BPO and it was botched. This happens to us sometimes and creates more work. Part of the short sale landscape. As the market continues to decline those overvaluations will become less common.

8:30am • #3
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Dan, isn't it wonderful that we have thousands of agents willing to share here?  Good luck on that sale and feel free to contact me if I can be of any help.

Anthony, you're very welcome.

Philip, this is a smaller bank.  I've tried everything to get them to accept.  The BPO came in much less than the $255K they're asking for.  It has to do with PMI and their claim on that.  We have to accept that not all short sales are doable.  This one apparently is one of those.  Thanks for your comments.

8:37am • #4
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I'm not sure that I would advertise anything as an "approved price" unless you have something in writing from the bank authorizing you to advertise it as such.  Loss mitigation departments often work behind the scenes in short sale transactions, and they often get BPOs from unrelated third party realtors to help substantiate price.  Sometimes the bank hires its own appraiser if the BPOs come in unexpectedly low. 

I've seen situations where the bank rejects an offer at say, $350,000 (buyer walked) and two weeks later accepts $340,000 from another potential buyer.  This one closed.  Had the Realtor advertised an "authorized price", he might have missed this buyer.

8:56am • #5
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WEICHERT, when we advertise the "approved price" it goes right along the usual disclosures about short sales, commissions, etc. 

The bottom line is that in our market 95 %of agents don't even show short sales (based on all the talk I hear from same) because they're never sure that it's worth their trouble.  If I can get them to feel more comfortable by disclosing that the price has been approved (and it has, and I have it in writing from the bank) then it can only help everyone involved get that listing sold that much faster with the increase in showings.

 

9:22am • #6
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I've had a contract in to the bank for my client for over eight months and heard nothing! What's with that?

Cash deal, close in two days, not contingencies.

 

Portsmouth NH Real Estate

9:41am • #7
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Maggie - Thanks  for sharing your tips on shorts, adn for generating some helpful commentary. I am still learning about these transacations adn the more folks share the better grasp we have on the complexities. Since each situation seems to be different it is hard to gain a perspective on what works and what doesn't. One big issue seems to be agents adversiting and approved SS, or telling buyers they have it, when it fact they don't have it in writing. Or worse, they have approaval on 1 loan but not the second.

Jeff

9:52am • #8
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Patricia, are you the listing agent or the buyer's agent?  As a buyer's agent, there isn't much you can do other than inquire of the lisitng agent or go with another property.  As the listing agent, you should have a 3rd party authorization to speak with them (signed by the seller) and hopefully have the name of the loss mitigator so you can stay on top of it.  It's a lot of back and forth effort.  They can take the time they need as long as they keep the lines of communication open and keep you posted.

Jeff, you're right, each one is it's own animal and while they share many similarities, they also have distinct differences, depending on the bank.  Whenever there is a 2nd (or 3rd etc.) loan ALWAYS go after release of those first.  The first lender won't negotiate until they know that the 2nd lienholder can be bought off.  Thanks for stopping by!

12:37pm • #9
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Hey Maggie,

We've all dealt with banks like the one in your example. All the marketing and negotiating in the world won't make up for stupidity like that!

3:12pm • #10
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Lynda, I have accepted that there are those that will not negotiate due to PMI.  But they're so evasive when you try to get the PMI info up front that I find the only way to get an answer from them is to submit the first offer and see what they say. 

You're right, there is no negotiating possible when the other side isn't willing to negotiate.

5:07am • #11

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