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Traditional Real Estate Brokerages vs. Online : Online is winning

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The real estate brokerages website traffic represented in this chart that are not dropping off a cliff are all of the online, "non-traditional" variety.

Little tiny 100 person company Redfin is about to surpass Coldwell Banker?  Zip Realty has almost as much traffic as the next three largest brokerages combined?  What does this mean on the local level? What are the big brokerages doing to correct this?

They must recognize this is a serious problem and innaction is not an option.

(Note: Please don't talk about what you charge for commissions or what should be charged on ActiveRain. Price fixing is illegal, M'kay?)

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Adak, AK

Jonathan,

My accounting background makes me always think profit margin, the bricks and mortar business model or Zip Realty - the way real estate is done today has changed for sure, but who is really raking in the coin?

I keep a small but nice office, but the most visitors I have daily is on my website!

Thanks for the interesting data.

Kent Davis

Jan 17, 2009 03:24 AM
James Lupori
Keller Williams Greater Seattle - Kenmore, WA
Associate Broker - Keller Williams Realty - 206.713.2102

Hi Jonathan - I didn't mean to suggest that it's not possible to convert on-line leads (let's call them people) into sales. My fellow bloggers here at Neighborhoodsundressed.com have met clients on-line and completed transactions with them. This was due to the nature of blogging rather than volume website prospecting.

What's so interesting to me is how few agents I know are blogging. Most spend their days complaining that a) no-one is "turning themselves in" on their webistes or, b) their web generated leads end up being busy work with no business potential. In short, it all seems like so much high-volume farming with little result. When I suggest they blog, they don't want to put in the extra effort to actually demonstrate expertise/personality/etc. via a blog.

In today's marketplace we are seeing, first hand, how so many business models are breaking down because of the internet (the Newspaper business is a perfect example). Our industry is in the midst of such a paradigm shift. As I mentioned above, I can't see how classic brokerages can survive. I am a bit skeptical;however, that our business can or should be strictly on-line. I think it will ultimately be a hybridridized animal. We're not there yet.

 

Jan 17, 2009 03:57 AM
Anonymous
Matt Goyer - Redfin

To Bob, yes, that sounds right. Keep in mind that one of our challenges is converting all that online traffic. It's something I spoke about at Inman NYC this year on one of the Internet Marketing panels. But we've also found that because of how we structure our agent teams we're able to have our "lead agents" handle many more deals than agents at other brokerages.

To James, our internal calculations on NWMLS market share should put us on your chart. 

For those interested in ZipRealty check out their 2007 annual report . They generate 16% of their leads from Google, 21% from HomeGain and 37% from people visiting their site directly. Their sales and marketing costs were $38 million for 2007.

Jan 17, 2009 04:06 AM
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Peter Reese
Pacific Grand Estates - Rancho Santa Fe, CA
Luxury Real Estate Agent - Rancho Santa Fe

I always think of that line in that song "It's the end of the world as we know it" when I think of real estate brokerages.

We listened to our agents and we changed with the times now offering a simple 100% comm. Older model brokerages are still the first choice for some people, but others are really doing well with the new models, ie 100% comm., online only models, and the like.

I can really see the change happening even quicker, it's about offering what's needed and constantly evolving. Today every commission check counts and the ones getting the higher hits are the ones with the slits more favorable to the agents.

Interesting stats though... thanks for the post!

Jan 17, 2009 04:19 AM
TheMillsTeam YourSebringRealtors
Advantage Realty #1 - Sebring, FL
863-212-5441

Sadly, I do not know of any agent in my office, let alone my previous office, that actively utilizes what the internet has to offer. Some have blogs on Active Rain but there are either no posts at all or just listings posted.

Most of our buyer leads come in through email or website submissions (not the company website, but our own website).

Jan 17, 2009 07:54 AM
Carol Fox
Allen Tate Company 704-905-3935 - Matthews, NC
Helping You Discover Charlotte's Best Small Towns

Jonathan,

I work for a traditional "bricks and mortar" company.  Tops in the market and great agents.  They are finally getting the idea that they have to bring their website to the top of the search engines and they are working on doing so.  Our regional MLS is doing the same thing with leads sent back to listing brokers.  Eventually they will get to the top on the web and then they will have an unbeatable combination because they will have the online leads plus great experienced agents to handle them.  I think it will be easier for a traditional company to make sales out of online leads (once they get to their sites to the right point) than it will be for online companies with lots of leads but no experienced agents on the ground.

Jan 17, 2009 08:07 AM
Diane Aurit
LKN Realty, LLC - Mooresville, NC
Lake Norman Real Estate

I will have to come by to read all of the comments but I wanted to weigh in since I am a RE/MAX agent.  While RE/MAX does get leads out to agents on a fair and consistent basis and has a great back-end, I think the decline may have occured when they started to require information from the visitors to better scrub the leads.  I think asking for so much information so soon is a turn-off to those searching online.  Plus, I believe more and more home searching is coming to our blogs...I have quite a few clients how use my IDX to search for homes.

Jan 17, 2009 09:33 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Jon- I read most of the comments here, and all of the ones from you, Bob, and the Refin guy.....my gut is telling me someone is trying to sell someone something :)  Does all this have anything to do with AR's lead generation tool?  Just curious......

Jan 17, 2009 09:59 AM
Jon Washburn
Seattle, WA

Hi Kathy,

In hindsight I can see how you could think that we were trying to telegraph something but that is not the case. My goal is to keep my blog as honest and straightforward as possible.  I will not hesitate to post something that hurts my personal interest, if it is the truth and benefits the industry as a whole.  If that is the case then I will take that as a cue that I need to change.

We are in no talks with Redfin or anything in that realm. 

However, the big brokerages do need to get off their duff and get in the game.  They are doing the 1 million + Realtors in our country a very big disservice by not being more aggressive with their online strategies.

Jan 17, 2009 10:10 AM
Tara Jones- Atlanta
Reel Productions TV- Real Estate Video - Dacula, GA
GA

Love, love, love this post!  Excellent example of bringing a visual to what is happening in the industry.  The more you can give a consumer online, the longer they'll stay and more likely there are to pick up the phone. 

Jan 17, 2009 10:11 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

James Lupori wrote:  "I have met very few (I can count them on one hand) who have actually consummated a transaction by converting an on-line lead. Period."

My agents and I have closed over 2,000 online leads since 1996 and I closed my first in 1995.

 

Jan 17, 2009 10:13 AM
Bruce Brockmeier
Internet Marketing Consultant to REALTORS® - Yorba Linda, CA
Coached By Crouch

Hey Jonathan,

On your next graph, I suggest you include Lenn!  :)

Jan 17, 2009 11:34 AM
Highland Beach Condos David Serle
RE/MAX Services - Highland Beach, FL
Boca Raton Agent David Serle

All this is traffic.  I would like to see actual sales.  That is what I care about.  Zip Realty has had many complaints about their service in my local market.  I want sales, and not just traffic.  That is all zip and redfin have is online.

Jan 17, 2009 12:01 PM
James Lupori
Keller Williams Greater Seattle - Kenmore, WA
Associate Broker - Keller Williams Realty - 206.713.2102

Hey, I'll have what Lenn is having!!!!

In all seriousness, this is a timely and important conversation. Lenn, I imagine your company has been successful with the on-line leads because you adopted the technology early and you've got longevity with the model. I have no doubt that on-line real esate is in every successful agent's future. But, as in any business endeavor, it takes a clear vision and skill to make a strategy work.

Jan 17, 2009 12:33 PM
Reba Haas
Team Reba of RE/MAX Metro Eastside www.TeamReba.com - Bellevue, WA
Team Reba, CDPE

I find it interesting that you think RE/MAX needs to "get off its duff" when they use a multi-faceted approach to gaining mind share and market share.  Online may be a major player, but so are other avenues of advertising for getting people to consider your firm.  RE/MAX has over 50% market brand name recognition and is the largest single brokerage in the world. Taking one piece out of an overall strategy and then attempting to blast a firm for not being #1 in a category each time is like taking a specific sentence out of a whole interview and interpreting what it means without context.

It might be interesting that they have lots of online hits but that doesn't always translate to sales.  And, believe me, many of us are more than working hard in a number of venues to make ourselves known to the public and to keep our client base up to speed on what we do, online and otherwise.

Jan 17, 2009 12:47 PM
Esko Kiuru
Bethesda, MD

Jonathan,

The big shops are so big that to make meaningful changes will take a long time. In the meantime the boutique operations navigate nimbly toward the top and increased market share.

Jan 17, 2009 02:20 PM
Tom Davis
Harrington ERA,DE Homes For Sale, $$ Save $$ Buy Today ! - Dover, DE
FREE Delaware Homes Search!, $$ Save $$ - Find Homes! Delaware Realtor

Debe,

I agree 100% that the internet is definitely the way to go these days!  I've been preaching about it myself too !  Well if you snooze you lose!

Thanks

Tom Davis.

Jan 17, 2009 03:59 PM
Brian Lee Burke
Kenna Real Estate - Lone Tree, CO
Broker & Advising Expert-Kenna Luxury Real Estate

I came back - love the conversation going on - and agreed Lenn needs to be on the next chart LOL. I for one feel changes in the air. We'll see what happens to the large B&M brokerages. Adaptation  - maybe? ~Rita

Jan 17, 2009 04:45 PM
Everard Korthals
---Preferred Lifestyle Advisors--- - Lancaster, PA
Mountain Realty

We have a mixed feeling about this. While online traffic is great, conversion is still key and the big brokerages are still winning that battle as a whole. But they are doing this more through their referral networks. If you check your local mls you will probably see that many of those top online companies are not actually doing as well as the traditonal modeled agencies. There's no doubt however, that an office is no longer a necessity and is currently causing many problems for the big guns because of the overhead of maintaining such an office. 2009 is not going to be the start of the 100% online model. While each year real estate inches closer, it has done so at a snails pace. This can be easily affirmed when taking a look at STATE statistics such as PA recently put out. 

Try to remember what the point of the post was showcasing while at the same time looking at actual local data to affirm the reality of things in each market as it will vary. There's definetely going to be a larger conversion rate in markets such as California where word got out years ago. 

It's definetely not a bad tme to be an independent real estate brokerage :)

Jan 27, 2009 08:37 AM
Michael Hege
Beach Villa Realty,LLC - Kapolei, HI
R

It seems that the opportunity for "the agent" is to recognize the difference between site traffic and site satisfaction. I do my best to gauge the interest a visitor would have in visiting a real estate site in my small and specific market. I don't try to be a one size fits all, I try to be a my size fits you. It is still a numbers game, but I look at the visits and the statistics that accompany them as reviews and constantly do my best to tweak and tune. My results have been very good in a down market and my longterm strategy is to develop a service that works in a down market and to enjoy it in an up market.

Feb 15, 2009 07:25 AM