Just when you though you had enough disclosures to deal with along comes Polybutylene plumbing.

http://www.polybutylene.com/poly.html

"Polybutylene is a form of plastic resin that was used extensively in the manufacture of water supply piping from 1978 until 1995. Due to the low cost of the material and ease of installation, polybutylene piping systems were viewed as "the pipe of the future" and were used as a substitute for traditional copper piping. It is most commonly found in the "Sun Belt" where residential construction was heavy through the 1980's and early-to-mid 90's, but it is also very common in the Mid Atlantic and Northwest Pacific states."

The problem with Polybutylene (or poly for short) plumbing is that some of it has a tendency to deteriorate and fail over a fairly short period of time. Not a good thing to happen to your plumbing, especially if it's inside interior walls.

http://www.polybutylene.com/realtor.html even has a section titled "Poly issues for real estate professionals".

Thankfully poly plumbing does not seem to have been used very much in my area so I only have to deal with it rarely.

There are some real horror stories about Poly pipes failing or developing multiple leaks causing damage running over $100,000.

The Polybutylene.com website advises buyers of homes with Poly plumbing to ask the seller to either replace the Poly or give them an allowance equal to the cost.

Estimates for replacing all Poly pipes seems to be in about the same price range as replacing carpet so while expensive, it's not cost prohibitive.

Personally I would much rather spend 5-10,000 now and replace this stuff rather than wait until it comes apart and spend $100,000 rebuilding my house.

 

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17 Comments on Here's another potential disaster to watch out for.

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I'm glad for our strict building codes here. All copper.

I agree that it would be better to take care of the potential problem, before things get ugly...

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We have that in older homes here - I had a client get his replaced for free.
1:29pm • #2
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Jim didn't know much about this stuff so will need to read up and be sure our inspectors know to look for it too...
1:37pm • #3
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The clients won a class action suite and I know of one condo developement where they camee in and replaced all the pipe to copper in the last 2 months.
1:51pm • #4
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I've ran into this stuff one time.  It was a relocation deal with Ford Motor Company.  Ford would not take a house into inventory until the pipes were replaced.  In this instance, it was caught very early.
2:41pm • #5
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Ughh, another potential disaster to worry about, thanks for the heads up.
2:56pm • #6
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I know of a couple condos here that have had to replace all the pipe. Also, I had a single family home listing where the pipe had all been replaced - got the documentation, and had the seller disclose the problem and the solution.
3:41pm • #7
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Thanks for the info very eye opening
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Hi Jim, They make Viagra for the plumbing problems!
4:50pm • #9
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There are fixes besides replacing the whole system, depending when they were installed and the overall quality of the installation. As I recall, the biggest issue is with the resin that deteriorates in the joints. I have seen where they have replaced the fitting with a copper band and appropriate resin for a lot less than replacing the whole system.
7:19pm • #10

It's pretty scary when I can recognize Jim Lee from a picture the size of my baby pinkie fingernail, considering we've only met once about five years ago.

Good post Jim! 

 

ARDELL DellaLoggia
7:39pm • #11
Thanks for the Heads-Up on this.
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Jim,  The home before last had polybutylene pipes.  Funny the homeowner forgot to mention it to us. My hubby noticed a flyer that came to us in the mail.  Lo and behold, we got lucky and the class action suit enabled us to have all of it replaced.

We were among the lucky ones.

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You are amazing Jim, This is an invaluable assist to those of us in the profession that really WANT to be in the know and assist our clients or inform our sellers.

Thanks as always for sharing.

 Wynne From Michigan
Michigan Real Estate Sales
Serving Macomb and St. Clair Counties
www.wynnea.com 810-765-8167

 

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Hi Jim,

 I have poly pipes, they have been in my home for 22 years. When I bought my home and had the disclosure I was afraid to continue with the purchase but then it was explained very simply to me. The connectors are not good, as long as you have copper connectors you will not have a problem, plus if the pipes have not caused you any problems do not replace them. 

 

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While working in insurance claims this was a hot claim in the mid 90s. The pipes were used in mobile homes, which we have a lot of in Florida.
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Beware of homes with polybutylene plumbing where the sellers have already collected the settlement funds--and who pocketed the money instead of doing the repairs. That is another disclosure issue....

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