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Too Much Twitter?

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Services for Real Estate Pros with Smaulgld LLC

I recently twitted this:

"If everyone follows 2000 people and everyone has 2000 followers no one can follow anyone."

This observation came from speaking with Pat Kitano who has almost 9500 followers and is "following" nearly the same number.

If you have 9500 followers, like Mr. Kitano, or even 2000 followers and you make it a practice as Pat does to follow everyone who follows you, you can't keep up.  

Well, if you can't keep up, it follows (no pun intended), your followers can't either. 

So, you may have thousands of people tweeting at cross purpose. 

If everyone is similarly situated with large numbers of followers and everyone follows a number equal to their followers, then twitterites will all be broadcasting into a void of noise where despite your number of followers, you won't be heard! 

Indeed, and ironically, its possible that you will be heard by far few people if you have large numbers of followers who also follow large numbers of people.

If everyone is important then no one is.

Pat also argues that its bad form not to follow those that elect to follow you. But perhaps its bad form to follow people whom you never really follow at all because you just don't have the time to sift through thousands of tweets a day? Its like saying "let's have lunch" and not meaning it.

I would think that there are certain people on twitter who due to their popularity become broadcasters and deserve plenty of followers. These people, however, may need two accounts. One to broadcast (news out) and another to listen (news in)

Mary McKnight takes an opposite tact with her follwers-she flatly refuses to follow them all. Her stated reason is not that she doesn't have time, but rather admits, when asked why she does not follow many of her over 1000 followers-  "I don't find you interesting!" 

@lcammarosa

@homegain

 

 

Comments (14)

Goodbye Active Rain
Out of Real Estate

Follow the Pareto Principle (80/20) rule.  20% of the people produce 80% of your business. 

You are right you can't keep up.  It almost seems like a popularity contest.

Jan 23, 2009 01:53 AM
Vickie McCartney
Maverick Realty - Owensboro, KY
Broker, Real Estate Agent Owensboro KY

Hi Louis~ I am on twitter but admittedly do not really have time for it.  Well, I guess I don't make time for it because I rarely use it.  But, eventually I may. 

Jan 23, 2009 02:02 AM
Aventura | Bal Harbour | Sunny Isles Beach | REALTORĀ® 786-229-7999
SIB REALTY, Llc // WaterWayRealty.com - Sunny Isles, FL

Louis~

I'm nowhere near those numbers of following/followers, I'm still trying to figure out who is responding to what. It seems like a bunch of cross talk...

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Jan 23, 2009 02:03 AM
Jay Thompson
Zillow - Seattle, WA

I don't just follow anyone who follows me. There is a lot of crap out there in Twitterville. Spammers, people who do nothing but beg you to use their services, etc. I see no point following them.

Can someone keep up with 9500 followers? Of course not. It's hard (if not impossible) to keep up with 100 followers if they are active on Twitter.

But I don't think that's the point. When I log on to Twitter, I don't go back and try to read what I've missed. Twitter is transient. When I log on, I pay attention to what's happening at that moment. Trying to scroll back and catch up is far too time consuming.

Using an Twitter application like TweetDeck allows you to group those you follow. I have a close friends group, a real estate agetn group, a Phoenix only group, etc. Some of those groups get more attention than others. It makes is FAR easier to manager your Twitter Stream,

Using Twitter to meet LOCAL, non-real estate people is a wonderful thing. The key word is MEET these folks - meet as in real life. I've grown my "sphere of influence" tremendously by doing this, as well as made some great new friends.

Jan 23, 2009 02:58 AM
Louis Cammarosano
Smaulgld LLC - Hampton, NH
Smaulgld

Jay

Thanks for thoughts. One thing I was thinking of was having separate accounts and it seems you have managed through tweet deck to have instead of separate accounts, segregated groups so that not all of your thousand followers have to hear about real estate if only half of your followers are in real estate.  

Where can one get the tweetdeck application?

 

 

Jan 23, 2009 03:07 AM
Anonymous
Mary McKnight

LOL. Thanks for the mention. I actually use Twitter and get REAL business of it- so I only follow people I can learn from, find entertianng, have similar interests or can DO busness with me and I have no problem quantifying that business. I now represent Sacre Bleu Wne and Sacrilicious is right now landing Jenny Lynn (Ms. Olympia (Fitness)) through Kelly - both garnered through Twitter! 

Now- when you see people who follow all their followers- you know they are phishing and usign autofollow tools - it's lame and I think theymiss the value proposition and clearly don't get the ROI they need on Twitter.

Jan 23, 2009 06:03 AM
#6
Jay Thompson
Zillow - Seattle, WA

Louis -

TweetDeck won't seperate the tweets I *send*, it groups Tweets I *receive*.

So yeah, all my followers get all my Tweets. I don't push real estate very much. I do tweet links to RE related material (including my own) but the majority of my tweets are just interacting back and forth with followers.

The way I look at it, if someone doesn't like something I tweet, the solution is a click away -- they can unfollow me. I don't take that personally.

TweetDeck is great though for managing your incoming stream and makes it much easier to give certain groups additional attention. It can be downloaded (for free) at http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta/

Jan 23, 2009 07:57 AM
Louis Cammarosano
Smaulgld LLC - Hampton, NH
Smaulgld

Thanks for the link Jay

I suppose it would be possible one day for tweet deck or another application to also allow you to chose to whom a specific tweet was going to go to.

Right now I have no use for it as I have under 75 followers and less than 40 that I follow.

 

Jan 23, 2009 08:09 AM
Anonymous
Joseph Ferrara.sellsius

Twitter is both a broadcast system and a listening system. There are many twitter tools to take advantage of both systems ( locally, nationally and internationally).

Jan 23, 2009 10:30 AM
#9
Matt Fagioli
Dacula, GA

What's interesting about twitter is that (like blogging) you can tell a lot about a person by how they do it.  Not just "what they tweet" but also how they manage their following and follower relationships.  There's three distinct groups:

  1. I follow everyone and nobody is following me (spammers and losers)
  2. I follow back most or all who follow me (I'm in this group)
  3. I'm more of a rockstar. Everyone follows me and I follow very few (Mary:)

I'm like Pat Kitano in the sense that I tend to follow anyone who follows me -- at least for a moment :)  But, just because I follow you doesn't mean that I've made a commitment to actually keep up with what your tweeting.

I'll follow you back for a bit to see if you are interesting or annoying or what (kinda like what Mary said).  BUT, If you're annoying, then you get un-followed really fast!  Annoying can mean a lot of things, but usually it's too many tweets about nothing or too much spam.  It seems that the best people on twitter share a lot of useful links  (hhhmmmm.  helping others.  what a concept!)

There is also a major local component here (back to Jay's comments). 

Twitter is still a very new thing.  In Gwinnett County Georgia, I'm a twitter rock star!  If you are new to twitter in my local market, you're probably gonna follow me for sure because you can see that I have 1300 followers already.  Hey, he must be somebody!  (NOT).

As far as managing to "keep up", that's a waste of time (again, Jay's comment).  You just jump into the conversation happening at that moment and engage.  Engagement is everything.  Following is nothing.  Following is the equivalent of saying "it was nice to meet you".  Engagement is more like "lets have coffee and see if we connect".

I think the bottom line is this: 

Like any other business tool, you have to know what you are targeting and have a plan to hit that audience                                                                                           (like Mary & Jay and so many others)

 

Regards,

 

@mattfagioli

 

 

Jan 23, 2009 11:08 PM
Rebecca Levinson, Real Estate Marketing and Online Advertising Consultant
Real Skillz-Clear Marketing for Your Real Estate Vision - Lake Geneva, WI

Louis,

I only follow people whom I believe I can have conversation with that's worth the time.  I don't care about the numbers so much as I care about the quality of the conversations.

It's about quality conversations, great connections, and the ability and willingness for people to travel from Twitter to your HUB.

Those that have a successful background in sales know that it's about the quality of the connection.  Sometimes that involves going through the big numbers to get there.  Sometimes it does not.

Predictions for 2009 is a shift on the emphasis of number to the emphasis of the quality of solid connections.

Again, salespeople know this is the secret to success.

Jan 24, 2009 01:09 AM
Anonymous
Sherry Chris

Louis,

Interesting comments from all - my advice, and if you visit my page, you will see right now I am following more people than follow me, is to spend some time on the site and plan a strategy that works for you. For me, I am building a real estate brand, so I want to connect with real estate agents and brokers. I want to share useful information, and get the pulse of what the market is like for them and what their challenges are. So I want to hear from people. It is different for everyone, and that is the beauty of Twitter... it can be local, national or global - I am attracting some global followers, and that is good for my brand. Some, like Gary Vee use Twtter as way to market wine, he has no need to follow to everyone who fillows him. for the people who don't understand Twitter, you better get to know it, it is an interesting and powerful tool.

Jan 24, 2009 09:23 AM
#12
Patrick Kitano
BNN - San Francisco, CA

Sherry, great explanation on how you've customized the use of Twitter for the goals of BHG.

I tend to ruminate for a few days before commenting. That's what makes me a poor micro-blogger (or Active Rain commenter), I don't react quickly. Anyway, I've posted a response to this discussion on Active Rain and Media Transparent.

Jan 25, 2009 03:13 PM
Anonymous
Daniel Greene

I love it when you write "It's like saying 'let's do lunch!' and not meaning it" and "if everyone is important then no one is." My question is: what does it even <em>mean</em> to "follow" 5,000 people? I don't care what someone thinks that means in terms of politeness. I want to know what it means in practical terms. P.S. I'm danielgreene on Twitter.

Feb 07, 2009 04:11 PM
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