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Mother Nature's Energy Audit!

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Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

     Infrared Cameras (IR) are becoming more and more common.  A good Thermographer (a person certified to use the dang things----like James Quarello) can tell you a lot about your home or building.  While they are touted as being able to “see” though materials and “see” water in walls, ceilings and floors they actually do no such thing.  Click on these IR pictures for more information from James: Infrared Image Infrared Image Infrared Image Infrared Image

     They can only do one simple thing----and they can do this one simple thing VERY well.  They can see temperature differences on the surface of things.  Because of the camera’s ability, the Thermographer (with proper training and experience) can give you a pretty good educated guess as to what those different temperatures mean.  When areas are found that may indicate moisture, these areas are then checked/verified with different kinds of moisture meters----or areas are opened up to verify the actual presence of moisture.

     Because these cameras are so good at reading temperature differences, they are extremely useful in Energy Efficiency Analysis of homes, so that money can be spent the most wisely in reducing energy costs. 

     I by no means pretend to be an expert in the use of these cameras----and I do not own one.  Generally speaking they are considered to be a tool that is outside the scope of a Standard Home Inspection.  I have called for IR evaluation of homes when I suspected issues, and could not verify what was going on “visually.”  I suspect that as costs for the cameras come down, more inspectors will have them, and they will become more common place in the course of Standard Home Inspections.

     When I went to the dentist yesterday morning----which was nothing like my Last Visit----I couldn’t help but notice how Mother Nature was doing her own IR scan of the roof of the building----with frost.  But just like the IR Camera----all we can tell is that there are temperature differences on the roof surfaces.   Some of the possibilities are:  warm air moving in the air space between the insulation and the roof sheathing, missing insulation, insulation out of place, batt or foam-board type insulation, inadequate insulation at wall top plates, recessed lighting, and/or a combination of these possibilities.

Frost on a roof

     This kind of information from Mother Nature is all “frosting” on the cake. 

Charles Buell

 

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Richard Shuman
The Only B.S. I Have is from the University of Massachusetts - Lake Mary, FL
Real Estate Broker - Orlando Area - Love Referrals

Charles - I have seen the camera in action - saved a buyer from buying a home full of moisture in 2 walls! Well worth the expense of using it!

Jan 27, 2009 12:26 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Frosting on the cake.... I get it... frosting on the cake!!!   Funny!

Jan 27, 2009 12:27 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Richard, so was the IR camera a deal killer?  Or was the house a deal killer?:)

Alan, I knew I could count on you:)  (Like your new picture by the way)

Jan 27, 2009 12:30 AM
Steve Blehl
The Home Depot/Referrals to Geba Realty - Milford, PA

Good article. Our company just completed the third party licensed certification on our first NAHB Gold Rated new home here in Pike County, PA. It is the first in Pike County and one of the first in PA. I had the opportunity to photograph the verifier as he went through the house. He was using the infrared imager and we were down in the basement. The walls had Thermax foil face 2" rigid foam insulation. As two us stood behind him watching he was confused at first why there were three "warm" spots on two of the walls. We then realized that it was our body heat relecting off the foil of the Thermax insulation!! Wow, those devices are sensitive! This unit that he was holding was over $5000. He said that they can run upwards of $10,000 per. Essential for certifying a "Green/Energy Star" home. An idea for home inspectors that may be too cost prohibitive for some, if not most, I would imagine.

Jan 27, 2009 12:35 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Steve, you are right and why these devices require training.  This is just one of many things that can create what otherwise might be considered different information.

Jan 27, 2009 12:40 AM
Richard Iarossi
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Crofton, MD
Crofton MD Real Estate, Annapolis MD Real Estate

Charles,

The home inspector I recommend does have an IR camera and it is a useful tool for when you suspect something is going on but can't quite pin it down. Price is still an issue but I suspect that a couple of years from now you'll be looking back and wondering how you ever did without one.

Rich

Jan 27, 2009 12:41 AM
Barbara S. Duncan
RE/MAX Advantage - Searcy, AR
GRI, e-PRO, Executive Broker, Searcy AR

Good informative blog, Charles.  I liked Steve Blehl's comment above on how sensitive they are and how much they cost!!  Goodness, no wonder Mr. Q could afford to send Nutsy 75 pesos!!

Jan 27, 2009 12:42 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Richard, I agree and just think----there are still inspectors out there that insist moisture meters are unnecessary!

Barbara, I hear Mr. Q drives a Hummer as his inspection vehicle:) As to bailing out Nutsy---I find that hightly unlikely----at least until his summer barbeque.

Jan 27, 2009 12:47 AM
Pat Champion
John Roberts Realty - Eustis, FL
Call the "CHAMPION" for all your real estate needs

Great information thanks for sharing.

Jan 27, 2009 01:04 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Pat, you are welcome.

Jan 27, 2009 01:10 AM
Roy A. Peterson
Domicile Analysis of Texas - El Paso, TX
P.R.E.I.

I have being playing with the idea of getting certified to use a infrared camera. Nobody here is marketing this service.

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Jan 27, 2009 01:35 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

I hear you Roy---not sure I want to market it---but sure would be fun to play with:)

Jan 27, 2009 01:57 AM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

I sub out my IR jobs and actually pass out his name to my clients even though he is competition.  I know if I got one it would be more than a tool and I'd end up playing with it on every inspection.  Down the road, other things first.

Jan 27, 2009 04:35 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Thank you Charlie for the endorsement. Some interesting comments here.

One I would like to follow up on is Steve's and the foil faced insulation. One of the aspects of using the IR camera is the material being viewed. Some materials are reflective like that foil faced insulation. This can be compensated for by adjusting the camera settings. It just demonstrates that using these devices can be more complex than it may appear.

Barbara, No 75 peso came from this bank that vermin busted out of jail and concocted that story to cover his tracks.

As for my vehicle it is a 2003 Honda CRV. No Hummer. I don't do thousands of inspections a year so I have drive a Honda. :(

Jan 27, 2009 05:43 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jack,yup---me too.

James---my pleasure. "Vermin"----"Nutsy"----has a nice ring to it:)

Jan 27, 2009 06:44 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Charles - I've been doing IR since 2005 and I can tell you, it has saved my bacon, or that of my clients, many, many times.  My favorite inspection is the examination of where in a house the insulation has fallen during the first year.  The client gives the report to the builder and says, here, here, there, here...  Then the builder, who did not have time to staple the insulation the first time around, now has to make time to remove drywall, properly install insulation a second time, and re-do the drywall.  How fun!

The pictures are definitive so there is NO argument from the builder!

Jan 28, 2009 09:56 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jay, on the Planet Charles, I seriously doubt that fiberglass batt insulation would be allowed----but I will save that rant for another time:)



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Jan 28, 2009 10:03 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

That would also be true on the planet James as well and I have done that rant.

Jan 28, 2009 10:18 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Hey, I had one too!!!

I'm supposed to type the word "raspberry" below.  Fitting...

Jan 28, 2009 09:38 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

James, don't you hate "obviousness?":)

Jay
, where would we be without good "rants" every now and then?

Jan 29, 2009 04:05 AM