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maze light bulb manFixing the housing problem in Las Vegas and elsewhere throughout the nation is high on the growing list of priorities for new President Barrack Obama.  Recent piecemeal attempts by banks and the government to modify loans or delay foreclosure for specific groups of homeowners have not uncovered a way that will work for everyone - or a way that will satisfy every interest in the loans.

Investment bankers Credit Suisse reports that since the housing bubble burst, over 3 million homes have been lost to foreclosure while another 8 to 10 million more are headed that way over the next four years.  One in ten homeowners are in foreclosure or more than 30 days late with a payment - the highest delinquency rate on record.

Loan modification plans offered by both the government and private lenders have approached the problem by lowering payments and stretching them out, often at a lower interest rate. The theory behind the plans is that they will cost the lender less than foreclosure and reselling the home.  Lenders have been resistant to lowering the principle. 

Modern mortgage financing practices complicate things these days, as mortgage loans are usually pooled and sold to investors.   Loan service companies, who have no connection to the homeowner, manage the mortgage payments to investors.  Multiple classes of investors often have different claims on the same mortgage - and conflicting interests.  Some investors benefit more from foreclosure than from keeping the loan performing, so the loan servicing firms make out better when loans are in foreclosure than when loans are modified.

From the borrowers' standpoint, loan modification plans currently on the table fall short of being helpful.  The loan modification process is lengthy.  Some borrowers, especially those who vastly overstated their income, those whose job status has changed, or investors, may not qualify for refinancing options.  Unless the principle is modified, the payments on the modified loans are still too high for many borrowers.  Many plans use 38% of monthly income, a figure that consumes too high a percentage of income for most borrowers.  Some homes were purchased at an inflated price and financed with teaser rates; a modification to even 38% would stretch out the term of the loan far beyond what the lender would want to offer.  Recent figures from that Comptroller of Currency affirm that loan modification as currently implemented are often not a long-term solution;  of loans modified in the first quarter of 2008, 37% were 60 days past due within six months.

With homes prices still declining in most areas, some borrowers are reluctant to refinance a home that is continuing to fall in value, they see little hope of ever having equity, and easily yield to foreclosure or shortsale.  Programs like Hope for Homeowners that encourage the lender to write down the loan value to 90% of a home's market value require the homeowners to share any future equity with the government.  Hope for Homeowners was funded to help 400,000 but only 350 loans have been processed due to lack of enthusiasm for the disincentives to lenders and borrowers alike

As noted by Evan Wagner, a spokesman for Indy Mac Bank, loan modification programs seek to make a home temporarily affordable to borrowers - not good investments.  Once arrears, interest, and fees are tacked on to the mortgage balance, the consumer often owes as much or more than before but has longer to pay.  It's a tough sell for banks when the loan is "underwater" and the customer will still end up owing much more than what the home is worth.

With 3.8 million more mortgages expected to be 60 to 90 days past due by the end of 2009, the need for an effective solution only increases.

To search for your new home in Las Vegas, including bank owned properties available at great prices, contact your Prudential Americana Group Realtor® Yonas Woldu at (702) 236-8997 or visit www.VegasRealProperty.com. The N&Y team, lead by partners Nebi Adhanom and Yonas Woldu, is always ready to serve you.

 

26 Comments on Rethinking Needed on Loan Modification

JAN
28
2009
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I know that Indymac for sure is full of it because they only allow people, are behind to modify...so what a crock.....they say..the expense is not worth it to the bank to modify..how about before people fall behind...

5:46pm • #1
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You state the problem very nicely.  However, the only solution to the problem is to reduce the mortgage balances to appraised or assessed value. 

Negative equity is sending our country into ruin.  So far, the politicians have decided to help the banks, not the home owners.  Until they understand that the banks don't fuel the economy of the United States, we will continue to wallow in a moribund real estate industry. 

Once the builders fail, foreclosures increase ever more, families break up, children are sent into poverty, perhaps someone will see the light. 

Rewarding the bankers and regulators that caused the mess is not the solution. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

5:51pm • #2
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Yonas, Without a reduction in the principle loan mods are just a very temporary bandaid. They help the banks NOT the homeowner. There are of course some exceptions

5:58pm • #3

This is a VERY SAD situation but 1 I understand personally. We bail the banks out but we don't help the people who stay up all night worried about food, mortgage, job laying off and etc... America wants to sleep again at night.( Not staying up worried) Lets help the people that are trying.... The people that have always paid but for whatever reason job loss, reduction in hours and etc... can no longer afford payments at this time. Give them a chance to get back on track.

6:33pm • #4

Yonus,

Thank you for the great post!  Although it once again has ruffled my feathers as well as many others, I am certain.

Keywords: piecemeal and fall short

I agree with Konnie - "what a crock"

I agree with Lenn - "Negative equity is sending our country into ruin"

I agree with Bryant -"very temporary bandaid"

Really want my opinion?  Yes, a bit of sarcasm.  I think that the entire situation is a pile of malarkey.  The hope for homeowners program is completely ridiculous.  Bailout is just a way to dig the hole deeper in my opinion.  The fact that you have to purposefully be delinquent to have a possible opportunity at a loan modification, seems quite absurd to me.  To give a lower interest rate to reward poor credit, lack of income and then I have clients that have A+ credit, income asking me why they can't get that rate?  Seems a bit backward to me.  What do you think?

Now, I agree that there are legitimate hardship situations and there should be something done, but what?  I don't have all the answers, nor would I claim to have them. 

It is frustrating to me for those out there that aren't held accountable.  Now, because those who obtained the original high risk loans supposedly didn't know what they were signing on the dotted line?  Did they not understand what adjustable rate means?  What about those encouraging the high risk sub-prime loans?  Where are they now? 

If you make one of the largest purchases in your lifetime, why wouldn't you be asking questions????????????????

We as real estate professionals need to have integrity. I sleep at night knowing that the reason I started my career was to help people!  

Please forgive me if I came across to krass, but this loan modification In my opinion is for the birds.   Theres got to be a better way.

7:01pm • #5

Many banks are putting up a facade in their efforts to help their customers modify their loan. Based upon the experience of several people I have spoken with recently, it seems the banks want the greater public to think they have every intention of helping. However they make the process so ineffective and frustrating that it is virtually impossible to avoid foreclosure. A colleague has been trying to work with their lender to modify their loan over the last four months. Their loan was sold to another company of which they have been in contact. They speak to a different individual each time they call and are unable to request to speak with the same representative. Each person gives them different instructions or contradicts what the last person has told them. They let them know they will fax a packet to them which they never receive. When the my collegue calls back, they tell them they do not send out packets and that they need to fax their documents to them. Then they claim they never receive the facsimiles. It is a revolving door of confusion and the borrower ends up going into foreclosure anyway regardless of their efforts. Their are so many components to this equation. All said, lending is at the heart of our housing industry and effective plans must be implemented or this will continue for some time to come.

7:47pm • #6
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I have seen many loans go from 9% to 11% get reduced to just under 5% recently. This can help many home owners.

9:21pm • #7

       Loan modification, even without lowering principle, can be beneficial in some case. I have seen waiver of late fees and penalties, and not requiring back payments along with lower interest, getting buyers enough relief to get and stay on track.
       Lenders certainly don't want to give away more than they need to.  And, they won't give away anything if it does not appear to have a chance to work.  There are limits on how much they can and will give, and what they will give is based somewhat on both need and ability. Too much of either and there is "no deal".
       If they can get a deficiency judgement after foreclosure and borrower has assets, why should they negotiate and modify?  If the borrower has no ability to perform under new terms, why modify?
       There is a pretty narrow band of borrower economics where a modification will make sense. The lender needs to be responsible to its investors. Why should we expect the lender to act except in its own best interest.  After all, the borrower agreed to the terms of the loan, and unless there is both real pain and some promise the lender cannot give up its position.  

10:36pm • #8
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There is so much of this going on, and it doesn't appear that anyone has come up with a reasonable and workable solutions that benefits all parties involved.

11:21pm • #9
JAN
29
2009

If people over extend, they need to pay... most of us should KNOW ... the bailout is a copout... patty

12:18am • #10

Yonas,

A friend of mine told me, "I have been given the opportunity to modify my loan". The good thing is that they are bringing down my mortgage payment to an amount that I can afford to pay. The problem is that the condo that I purchased for $ 385,000 with $ 70,000 downpayment is now worth only $ 220,000. I know my $ 70,000 downpayment went down the drain.  

So, with my loan modification, as I told you before my monthly mortgage payments are more affordable. The problem is that after 26 more years of payments, at the end of those 26 years I have to come up with $ 158,000 balloon payment. Shouldn't I let my condo go to foreclosure and just buy the one above me for $ 220,000?  I still have good credit because I have not missed my huge payment yet so I could still buy the one for $ 220,000,  but I don't know what to do.

My friend asked me; what should I do?

 

3:34am • #11
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You are right loan modification is not doing much for many homeowners

4:38am • #12

The current loan modificatin programs definitely aren't doing the job.  My husband and I were talking about it and we both were in agreement that the bailout was a joke.  

Instead what could have been done was use that money to cover the cost of loan modifications.  I understand that banks have all sold off their loans and are now only servicing them, and if they reduce payments and/or principle that will flow through to the parties holding the notes.  BUT!  If the banks were allowed to use that money to reimburse the holder of the note for the reduction in the note's value after a loan modification, I think it might actually do some good.

But now of course half of that money has gone to pay CEO sallaries and buy assets in other countries...

6:42am • #13
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We are not solving anything yet.....  The housing got us into this mess and until will have a bottom nothing else will work and the economy will continue to get worse.  Bank bailouts are treating the symptom not the cause.

7:06am • #14

Call your Congressman and let them know he needs to start listening to what "We the People" would like to see done!  We are the Nation's Small Business Owner's in charge of hiring the majority of the America's workforce, much more than all the large Corporations combined, in case anyone has forgotten that small point! Wall street has already been given a few billion Dollars to see what they could do, and they have sat on it.  It's time the American Consumer takes America Back!  The Congress tells us the Banks need to have the money to loan, because Real Estate Debit is what drives the economy. Problem is, the Banks won't loan to anyone unless they have perfect credit or a big chunk of money to put down.  People with a family, medical or dental bills, or children in College have a hard enough time making ends meet let alone saving $20,000 for a down payment on a house!  IF, the Fed used the "Bailout/Stimulus" money to pay down, or refinance individual consumer's personal debit and mortgages, if unemployed or under employed at the time give those people 6-12 months to make the 1st payment.  The Banks would be paid off and now have money to loan, consumers would now have manageable debit payments and feel confident spending again!  The Fed is currently lending to Banks at around 2% interest right now!  They could lend to the American Taxpayer at 3%, 30 or 40 yr. fixed rate, and might actually make a profit.  Some say why, I say Why not?

Steve
10:14am • #15
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Appreciate the clear explanation of the situation. Like others who commented above me, i don't think loan modification for only distressed and behind owners is going to fix very much of the crisis. How about something for those folks who are doing their best to stay current on their mortgage. Why only reward those behind?

 


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10:30am • #16

Fortunately, there are still some Americans who have jobs and are still making a good living and are able to meet their financial obligations. And yes, there are many who say, why should we help other people when I still have a job and I still pay my mortgage on time?  Problem is, it is very likely that  if the Depression continues to worsen, you too will be out of a job and then what?  Looks like we can either help the banks, or get to the root of the problem and help the people who are having trouble making ends meet so they can make their payments. 

Steve
11:58am • #17

I would like to see a Govt Backed loan program for people with good credit who are under water.  It needs government backing (guarantee) to allow for marketability of these loans. This is not for sub-prime repair, this is for refinancing interest only, balloon and adustable rate mortgages.  These loans can not be sold or portfolioed because of the negative equity (but they could if they have a guarantee).

Another program to allow people underwater to sell their home and carry the unsettled balance forward.  Allows the home to sell faster without the cost of foreclosure and a better chance to get whatever is the current fair market value of the house.

Thoughts?

From one embattled industry to another.

12:13pm • #18
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I thought on the 21st that the magic would began, Congress would have a bill ready to sign and all the wrongs would be righted. All I see on the news (CNN) is more talk. We are talking to other countries but we need to start here. We can fix the world after we fix America, I thought that was the change I voted for.

I know it's only been a week but I don't even hear the talk let along the hope. Lets go get it done already. If Congress knew how to fix it during the last two years but the Replublicans and one lone Independent was holding it up then it should have been solved the first day.

Or did they not know, still don't know and we just have to wait and see. More of what we had.

7:54pm • #19

I've been negotiating loan mods for homeowners for quite some time now, believe it or not, loan mods are getting tougher, not easier.  There is no relief for struggling homeowners who have managed to make their payments.  They are forced to damage their credit with late payments then, maybe, a rate reduction will be offered - but only after minimum 60 days late, some banks require 90 days late.

It seems that every time we bail out the banks, finding solutions for homeowners gets harder and harder. 

I find it difficult to encourage a homeowner to seek a loan modification when upside down in value but many insist on hanging on to their house for sentimental reasons rather than allowing the decision to be made from a business perspective.

I do not feel sorry for lenders, they raked in the cash hand over fist - not all of them but many of them.  The ones that are so difficult to work with today are the ones that were funding the loans that were doomed to fail.

8:37pm • #20
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07
2009

What is needed is a simple mechanism to modify loans, in a way that will benefit everyone. Forget "appraisals". For major metropolitan areas, the Case-Shiller index could be used as a measure of home depreciation. If your home is in such an area, and had lost 30% of its value since you took out the mortgage, you could qualify to do the following:

Set a new "pay" rate based on 70% of your past mortgage balance (say at an interest rate of 5%)

The other 30% would not be waived, but would be non-interest bearing. In other words, if you sold your home later, it would still have to be paid off. However, in the short term (under current adverse market conditions), you would not have to make principal or interest payments on it. Borrowers would still be expected to be responsible, but would have some relief. They would also, if they took advantage of this "deal" be required to agree to a credit freeze (after all, why bail out people who still won't cut back their debt?). Help them dig out, not dig a deeper hole.

Hopefully, a modified program such as this would allow more people to stay in their homes, allow them to take advantage of future market recovery, and not force taxpayers to pay to wipe out part of debtors' mortgage balances. It would simply entail a moratorium on part of the payments and interest. In terms of cost, it would be far cheaper for the Feds to subsidize banks and loan pools for the lost interest, than it is to pay them trillions for bad loans from a collapsed market. Not to mention that the current process (with millions of foreclosures) is actually contributing to MORE foreclosures and market price collapse.  

Too much of the current crisis was actually sparked by Bush and Paulson's screaming "fire" in a crowded theater, turning a problem into a stampede over the cliff. It is time to step back and adopt a reasonable compromise that has both a carrot and a stick. 

John D.
3:42pm • #21

What is needed is a simple mechanism to modify loans, in a way that will benefit everyone. Forget "appraisals". For major metropolitan areas, the Case-Shiller index could be used as a measure of home depreciation. If your home is in such an area, and had lost 30% of its value since you took out the mortgage, you could qualify to do the following:

Set a new "pay" rate based on 70% of your past mortgage balance (say at an interest rate of 5%)

The other 30% would not be waived, but would be non-interest bearing. In other words, if you sold your home later, it would still have to be paid off. However, in the short term (under current adverse market conditions), you would not have to make principal or interest payments on it. Borrowers would still be expected to be responsible, but would have some relief. They would also, if they took advantage of this "deal" be required to agree to a credit freeze (after all, why bail out people who still won't cut back their debt?). Help them dig out, not dig a deeper hole.

Hopefully, a modified program such as this would allow more people to stay in their homes, allow them to take advantage of future market recovery, and not force taxpayers to pay to wipe out part of debtors' mortgage balances. It would simply entail a moratorium on part of the payments and interest. In terms of cost, it would be far cheaper for the Feds to subsidize banks and loan pools for the lost interest, than it is to pay them trillions for bad loans from a collapsed market. Not to mention that the current process (with millions of foreclosures) is actually contributing to MORE foreclosures and market price collapse.  

Too much of the current crisis was actually sparked by Bush and Paulson's screaming "fire" in a crowded theater, turning a problem into a stampede over the cliff. It is time to step back and adopt a reasonable compromise that has both a carrot and a stick. 

John D.
3:42pm • #22
MAY
20
2009

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1:13pm • #23
SEP
29
2009

Hi...

I know it's only been a week but I don't even hear the talk let along the hope. Lets go get it done already. If Congress knew how to fix it during the last two years but the Replublicans and one lone Independent was holding it up then it should have been solved the first day.

 

I have seen many loans go from 9% to 11% get reduced to just under 5% recently. This can help many home owners.

Rockon
7:25am • #24

If you speak wih a HUD counsler, they will tell you that your loan may only be modified to a point that is not less than 41% of your total income, including all other debits and your mortgage payment.  Considering your totla debit, you may only get an interest reduction of 1% or 2%, and it will go back to the origional rate after 5 years.

Steve
8:00am • #25
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04
2009
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Thanks for your comments. Steve, Accoridng to programguidelines, your payment should go down to 31%,  with the govt picking up between 31-38%, & the lender picking up the overage.

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