How to Read a Good Faith Estimate:
It's more than just a list of fees!

Frustration Ahead - How to read the GFEYou would think that, with such an important document, that there would be better instructions on how to read (and understand) a Good Faith Estimate.  And, though it seems rather up-front and self-explanatory, you can get yourself into a lot of hot water if you are shopping lenders and don't know what you're looking at.

Not understanding it fully could cost you hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.

But, before we begin, it is worth mentioning that interest rates change daily - sometimes several times in one day.  If you really want to do yourself justice and shop for the best rate and fees, you need to do it on the same day.

Otherwise, you could be comparing apples to oranges.

** NOTE: If you pressed for time and have to shop lenders on different days, please give the other mortgage professionals a courtesy call.  Rates might have changed for the better and they can now match or BEAT that "great rate" you found. **

In this installment, we will address Section 800: ITEMS PAYABLE IN CONNECTION WITH LOAN.  This section, truly, is the only section your Mortgage Professional has any control over.  If you want to know why your Mortgage Professional doesn't have control over the other sections, you'll just have to come back for my future installments.

How to Read a Good Faith Estimate: It's more than just a list of fees!

Let's break it down:

Section 800: ITEMS PAYABLE IN CONNECTION WITH LOAN

801: Loan Origination Fee - What your Mortgage Professional is charging you to do the loan.

802: Loan Discount - What you are being charged for your interest rate (should ONLY be present if you are getting a rate LOWER than what is being offered by the market).  Read this blog entry to determine if you should pay points.

803: Appraisal Fee - Third party fee to assess the value of the property

804: Credit Report -The charge associated to pulling your credit report.  Contrary to popular belief, this is a third party fee.

805: Lender's Inspection Fee - What a lender will charge you if they must physically go to the property to inspect it.

808: Mortgage Broker Fee - If you are working with a Mortgage Broker, this is where their "Origination" fee should be.  In the states of Idaho and Washington, it is ILLEGAL for a Mortgage Broker to put their fee on line 801.  They MUST put it on line 808.  Why?  Politics.

* Note: you should NEVER see a fee on line 801 and 808 at the same time!!!!

809: Tax Related Service Fee - I have seen this line debated and debated.  I have found two main reasons for this fee: 

1 - Your lender is charging you a fee in order to pay your taxes;

2 - Your lender is paying a 3rd party company to monitor the taxes on your property to make certain the amount and, in the event you decide to pay your taxes yourself, to make certain they are being paid in order to avoid a tax lien (one of the very few items which will take a lender out of first position).

810: Processing Fee - In some cases, your Mortgage Professional might use a 3rd party Loan Processor to process your loan and paperwork.

811: Underwriting Fee - Usually this fee is reserved for 3rd party underwriters.  For example, your loan requires Private Mortgage Insurance and your lender sends it to the PMI company to underwrite your loan.

812: Wire Transfer Fee - Some lenders charge a fee to wire the loan funds to the title company or attorney office where you close your loan.

Blank lines:  There are other miscellaneous fees that can be associated to getting a loan.  If there is something typed on these lines, ask your Mortgage Professional what they are for and if they are negotiable.

To learn more, please stay tuned for future installments of this series.

Maryellen Garasky
Mortgage Broker
KMG Mortgage Group
(208) 664-3600
(509) 638-3455
www.kmgmortgagegroup.com

 
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12 Comments on Avoiding Frustration - How to Read a Good Faith Estimate: It's more than just a list of fees! ... part 1

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03
2009
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Thanks, MaryEllen -  It is always helpful to brush up on the required paperwork to put a closing together.  Especially now when closings are tougher to come by.

6:13pm • #1
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Kent,

Thanks, I appreciate it.  I made a few minor revisions after you posted your comment above, however.  I included a link to another one of my blog entries - whether to buy points or not.  I hope you find this one helpfull, too.

Have a great day.

Maryellen

7:04pm • #2
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MaryEllen - After our email exchange a few days ago, I started checkintg out your other posts and really liked the one on rates sheets.  After reading that post, I got inspired to start writing a post on how I conduct my initial presentation with new clients and blog about all the things I go over with them in that first meeting.

I go over the whole loan process including a section on rates, adjustments, loan origination and yield spread and the GFE and talk about the process from beginning to end and all the things that will happen and all the things that could happen.  I'm thinking now that I should break it up in parts so that it's not so long and confusing.  I'm also thinking I just want to post it on localism so that it will attract consumers in my area looking for info.

Anyway, thanks for the inspiration.  Thats the thing I like the most about AR, reading about others experiences and practices often inspires me to blog about my own experiences and practices.

9:09pm • #3
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Donne,

I'm really glad I could help.  It's nice to hear that I was an inspiration to you.  I'll have to check out your blog.

Thanks for stopping by and have a great night.

Maryellen

10:25pm • #4
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04
2009
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Maryellen, I can not tell you how many times I have had to re-explain this to a customer after a loan officer butchered the explanation the firet time.

2:15pm • #5
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Danny,

Welcome to my blog!  I certainly am enjoying the conversation we are having on yours, that's for sure.

Ya know, you wouldn't think it would be that difficult.  It just seems to me that more mortgage professionals are worried about "getting the deal" and moving on to the next one than educating their clients.  It's really sad.

To me, and educated client is the most satisfied and the one who will be willing to refer friends and family.  It's a win-win situation, if you ask me.  They understand what they are doing (they win) and they feel comfortable referring a loved one (I win).  Gotta love it.

Thanks for stopping by and please come back.

Maryellen

4:05pm • #6
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Maryellen - It really is that simple and easy too and I don't know why so many mortgage reps (I'm going to stop short of calling them professionals) feel the need to complicate the process and discredit the profession by being dishonest, unethical, ignorant or just plain lazy.

With the market in the state that it is in, I would of thought that the losers would have been weeded out by now.  I am still amazed at how many of them are still in business.  It looks like the biz still has a little more weeding out to do.

4:27pm • #7
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05
2009

Good post Maryellen - I couldn't agree more with you. Mortgage professionals need to and have the responsibillty of educating their clients and making the process something they can understand and are not intimidated by. That is how it should be done and you can then take pride in what you are doing and earn some much appreciated referral business. Keep up the good work!

12:38pm • #8
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Donne,

Maybe I should take your lead and stop using the statement "Mortgage Professional" and start using "Mortgage Rep" - ;)

We still have some weeding in our market, too, but I can say with a smile on my face (even though it means more competition for me) that we have a good network of professionals (in the true sense of the word) and there are several of them I would trust with my own home loan.

Thanks again for stopping by!

Maryellen

5:23pm • #9
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David,

Thanks for stopping by - I am starting to "see" a lot of you here in the rain ;)

Maryellen

5:25pm • #10
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2009
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Maryellen,

Good job on explaining this part of the GFE in clear, plain language.

Mike in Tucson

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