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How do you handle things when they go bad, when they don't go your way. And I am speaking on behalf of a botched closing. A loan officer or lender making a promise that they will close your loan on the date that is in the contract. Or giving you certain rates and or closing costs on paper, to later finding out at closing, that they changed some things on you. Or the worst case scenario, telling you that they can't help you now, the day of your settlement.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not telling you to go out there and attack someone or maim someone. But what about filing a complaint with someone. It can make a difference. Yes, it does take some effort on your part. But if you don't take a stance of some sort, it will just happen to the next person. 

Okay, so why the urgency now?  Well, I have been a part of a few discussions from a few well-written posts in the last day. Two things that were mentioned within the discussions that I heard,

  1. "I don't want to sound like a cry baby"       and  
  2. "my complaining won't do any good."


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Now, I have always considered myself a thinking man. Someone that will usually exert that extra effort to try to make things better. Even if that means taking the time to bring it to someone else's attention. 

Have I done this every time something goes wrong?  No, I'll admit that. Sure, it can take some time out of your busy schedule. But whatever happened to the Power of People? The Freedom of speech? If you don't stand up to what happened, if you thought it was unfair or unjust, then what about the next person that it happens to. Or better yet, that it might happen to you again?

So, let's use an example now for all intense of purposes. I am a loan officer that has promised a closing on the 12th of May with $2,000 out of pocket to the buyer. The 11th roles around and I tell you I need another week to close this loan, for what ever excuse was used. Now it's a week and I ask for one more extension. Bingo, we finally make it two weeks later. But wait, I tell you that you need another $1,500 at the closing. You complain, rant, and rave. (possibly more than this, but we'll keep it "PG") But because you want the house so bad, you come up with the extra money or one of the realtor's cuts back their commission a little to help out with this. Okay, you aren't a happy camper, but you have the keys. You call up the loan officer, because they weren't even at the closing and say, "you won't be getting a referral from me."  The loan officer under his/her breathe, "oh well, I made my money."  Now, you both go your separate ways...... This shouldn't stop here and here is what can be done.

 

 

 

                           What can you do to possibly keep this from happening again? And no, you wouldn't be the only one that could make a difference. But if enough people do it, it can make a difference. Sometimes a follower needs to be a leader at times.
                               

solution A.  When having a problem with the loan officer, call their supervisor and or manager. Give them the benefit of the doubt at least once. But if they don't return phone calls and or e-mails, don't wait around. This is usually a good sign that something is wrong. (not always, but a good chance)

B.  If it seems like the manager is taking the side of the loan officer, just go up the ladder per se. If it's a small company, speak to the V.P. or the owner/President of the company. If it's a larger company, after speaking to the branch manager, you can then go to the regional manager.

                               C.  So, you either closed on the loan with problems or they denied you last minute. Don't stop here. There are a few things that you can do:                                       

                                           1.  Call the BBB or go to their online complaint system (Better Business Bureau).

                                           2.  Or go to Google and type in state license complaints for mortgages. With this search, you will pull up many different states. If your state isn't there, just type in your state name ____________ followed by mortgage complaints.

                                           3.  Or go to the NAMB site. (National Association of Mortgage Brokers) And then go to this link on the page and click it.  Home Buyer Complaints

 

Now, I never said that by doing this will make everything better for what might have happened to you. Or that it will correct the problems right away. But if it's the same people doing this over and over, your efforts might get them to stop down the road. Don't be a back seat driver. 

Disclosure: This does not happen to everyone. Nor is every loan officer a bad loan officer. But this is based on real life examples from the past, from speaking to other realtors and consumers.

 

Part of my inspiration can from reading a blog done by both Neal Bloom and Randy L. Prothero. Both of whom wrote two thought provoking blogs based on their experiences with botched closings. 

 

13 Comments on As a Consumer or a Realtor, should you complain? -- From an FHA Expert....

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2007
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Has anyone ever taken any of these steps before?  What do you do when this happens to you or your client?

                                                                                                              jeff belonger

8:04pm • #1
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06
2007
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I think the secret to avoiding these things from happening is by starting with a referral.  Ask your Realtor who they have worked with and what was their experiences.  Find a loan officer with a funding lender who is not part time or new to the business.

4:00am • #2
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Jeff I do have a confession... I have...and if felt sOOOOoooooo good.  I could not take those fax blasts anymore.  You know the one saying 1% mortgage.  I called the number and spoke to the person.  I asked him how could they offer such a low rate.  He informed me that yes 1% is a true mortgage.  I asked him if he was a lender or mortgage company.  He then informed me that neither he was a marketing company and he would have a loan officer contact me.  So again I asked him to be clear that they are faxing rates and they are not a lender or a mortgage company. Once again he said.  In Florida the law is very clear on lenders or mortgage companies can advertise rate, payment or term.  I called the state and spoke to the compliance department.  They where very interested in the fax.  You know what the best part was?  I never received that fax again.
7:10am • #3
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I have a "go to" guy (loan officer) that has his package to the title company days before closing - every time .  I think he's all that and a bag of chips.  I had to kiss a lot of frogs before I found that prince, though!
7:55am • #4
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Randy.....  I totally agree. I did a post on this several weeks ago, in regards to approvals and such. I had written that you should first ask friends, family, or your realtor for those that they trust and work with. This then would eliminate half of these problems without a doubt. Thanks for your feedback.

Matthew...  great example. Thanks for sharing this. It's so easy to just sit back and let things happen over and over and over again. Once you start taking a stance or calling people, or making a complaint.... your efforts might pay off.  Thanks for sharing this.

Chris....  I agree, sometimes it takes a long time to get to the point that you are. That's awesome. But what about those that go through what I wrote about?  Should one complain? File a complaint?  Take the time to do this?  Have you had to do this, even if it wasn't mortgage related?  For anything....  thanks for stopping by. 

9:55am • #5

Point taken, I have never complained higher than the manager. But, honestly never gotten anywhere. It really never happens with our local lenders that know us and want future business, only those internet lenders that promise one thing and then change it right before closing.

My worst was a Physician moving here for her residency. She literally walked in with cash from her wedding, because the lender was 30 days late and raised her rate and she had to bring more.

I am bookmarking this and sending out to my office. Thanks

Missy Caulk
11:47am • #6
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Jeff - I flagged this post.  We have had several posts on this subject in the last week from frustrated Realtors including myself.  This one is extremely helpful especially coming from the eyes of a mortgage professional.  I can always depend on you to give us that perspective.
11:56am • #7

Thanks Jeff - this is great information.  It is so true that most of us will exert a little effort to complain and then give up.  I plan on bookmarking this for future reference because I know it will happen again. 

Kris Burgess

6:01pm • #8
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Missy.....    sure, I can understand that it might not happen as much with local lenders. But I still see it happen. I did about 5 transactions last year just in New Jersey alone that went south, bad....right up until closing or at closing. And these lenders couldn't make it happen. I was able to close each one. And a few of them were extremely hard. A few of the loan officers had made promises not even god could have gotten done, under the program that they promised. This is when the client and sometimes the realtor should rise to the occasion per se and let that persons manager know about the issue at hand. And if anything, report them to the state or BBB if it was that bad. Thanks for the compliment and for stopping by.

Randy.... thanks a lot. But from what Collen Kulikowski said about a week ago, that the flagging system hasn't worked in about 2 months.  Overall, thanks for your compliments.

Kris.....  As I have mentioned, there could have been times in my life that I reported someone for something. But I guess it depends on the severity of the situation and or problem. And sure, that question popping into your head...my one complaint won't make a difference. But it can...And yes, it does take a little effort at times. Thanks for stopping by and for that compliment. 

 

6:28pm • #9
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Jeff was this post removed from the professional category and if so why?
11:37pm • #10
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2007
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Jeff,

Hopefully, I will not have to deal with this issue anytime soon, but you are right in that rolling over and playing dead probably isn't the best way to go.  I would definitely complain to a lenders higher-up if I felt they intentionally led me or my client astray.

Fran

12:22am • #11
JUN
12
2007
Jeff, You recently commented on my blog Watch what you say, which is a case such as this. I totally agree that if the situation calls for it, people should make a formal complaint. I think it doesn't really matter what profession your in. We all have a code of ethics and there are always a few who don't practice very ethically. The only way to change that is to speak up. Thanks for linking your blog. You are absolutely right.
11:32am • #12

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